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icebox
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0 posted 2006-04-23 06:23 AM




Poetry is just self serving,
who do we think we kid?
It’s when the superego goes word dancing
and takes along the id.

We rant and rave
and wail and moan about our little woes,
and as often fail to see the world
just beyond our nose.

©2006 by icebox
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[This message has been edited by icebox (04-23-2006 07:22 AM).]

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backtash123
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1 posted 2006-04-23 08:30 AM


Your candor is not matched by any other.
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2 posted 2006-04-23 08:44 AM


Well, I am not sure I agree that we as poets cannot see beyond our nose and that all we do is rant and whine type of thing, but your poem is good.  I write to heal, others write as a hobby and still others for recognition.  There are a ton of reasons people write and for you to say that it is selfishness, in not so many words, kind of takes the enjoyment out of poetry.  Nevertheless, your poem was good.  I just disagree with you which is what makes us all unique.  Blessings,

Sheri Adams

Jesus lives in my heart!  He can in yours too!!!
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scorpio
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3 posted 2006-04-23 08:57 AM


"It’s when the superego goes word dancing
and takes along the id."

I really like this line.  It shows great insight into the creative process.

believe in what your heart feels...

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4 posted 2006-04-23 09:56 AM


I'd like you to meet someone, who sees it in a different way, whose life and poetry are more important to me than I'll ever tell him.... he really impressed me a while back, when he wrote this -- taught me something vital.


You asked me why,
not how,
I write poetry.
I don't think my motivations matter,
or would even help you understand
the separate river flowing through my soul;
it is hard sometimes for me to walk softly,
and I don't mean to shatter any useful illusions,
but I don't seek ovations
and I can just barely handle praise,
even then
only at a distance,
please don't misunderstand
I am not constructing resistance,
I savor your thoughts
the raw and pure energy,
the vulnerability,
the visions
tastes and scents,
the innocence that never will exist
within the walls of my redoubt,
but none of this really
is what this poorly structured poem is all about;
I am writing to thank you
for enfolding me,
though all too briefly,
inside the shelter of your soul,
and as recompense
try to make sense
of what and why it is
that I also try to do
in poems
without needing to give warning.

I write poems
for the sad simple truth
that the voices inside me are maddening;
I have found no other key
to reality's chains
when my soul weeps awake in the morning.

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iliana
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5 posted 2006-04-23 12:13 PM


A wise one once said, "It must out!"  That's what I think a good bit of poetry is....a kind of purification.  It can be an ugly process, or one of beauty...it's the process and then, if someone sees something of "art" in that, well, that is in the eye of the beholder, right?   ...jo
OwlSA
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6 posted 2006-04-23 12:34 PM


Whilst I agree in most part with all the responses, I think that what you have to say, icebox, is true.  I think that serving oneself is certainly one of reasons (perhaps the only reason sometimes/always) why we write, and if only one of the reasons, possibly the most important - and that is not necessarily bad.  I think what has possibly been missed by some readers is that you didn't say that we don't see beyond our noses, but that we OFTEN don't.  I don't think that ANYONE can say that he/she ALWAYS see beyond his/her nose.  And yes, at least 99% of what I write is for myself.  I enjoyed the way you crafted your poem succintly and with humour and clever philosophical insight.

- Owl


Bodger
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7 posted 2006-04-23 12:35 PM


short
succint
to the point

and extremely accurate

Dave

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8 posted 2006-04-23 12:50 PM


Well, my friend, you're certainly going to get a lot of people thinking about this one but as far as I'm concerned it is a question of the "soul weeping awake".  Perhaps we can't begin to count the reasons why people write poetry but I'm still happy that they do.  Oh, I must just say though that you are right about not seeing the world past their noses because poets, you know, always "feel" the world past their noses. You do know that icey!

Still a great piece of writing and it needs applauding which I now most heartedly do!

Martie
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9 posted 2006-04-23 08:11 PM


icebox

I agree with Helen in that poets DO see the world beyond their own noses.  Poets are sensitive to many events and people and may internalize those feelings before they write them.     Poetry helps me make sense of all kinds of things about living.  It's a tool that keeps me sain usually.  

The Lady
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10 posted 2006-04-24 12:57 PM



I write because I don't know how not to. Not very philisophical but there it is.

Very enjoyable poem icebox. I don't know why you write but I sure am glad you do.


Susan Caldwell
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11 posted 2006-04-24 09:24 AM




precisely!  

and I plan on indulging my id in this way as often as I can.

  (I know I owe you an answer)

"too bad ignorance isn't painful"
~Unknown~

mariae
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12 posted 2006-04-24 01:25 PM


Yes...so short, so true.
Really good

Pilgrimage
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13 posted 2006-04-24 01:27 PM


I really like this one.  I think the second 'just' was too much.  I would change one of them, because the poem is too short to support them both.  But otherwise, excellent.

Nan (Pilgrim variety)

wranx
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14 posted 2006-04-24 02:08 PM


Exactly so...

I like to think of my own poetry as revisionist history

and not, outright lies

Well said m'friend

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