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greco
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0 posted 2003-11-14 11:48 PM


i was wondering if anyone understood these poems because i dont and i was just making sure i wasnt the only one i mean these things dont make sense to me so i want to know what they were on or what was going on
thanks here are some examples let me know if you can say what they are saying

1.Well versed in the Buddha way,
I go the non-Way
Without abandoning my
Ordinary person’s affairs.

The conditioned and
Name-and-form,
All are flowers in the sky.

Nameless and formless,
I leave birth-and-death.
Layman P’ang (740-808)

no idea

2. Nobly, the great priest
deposits his daily stool
in bleak winter fields
Buson


3. Eaten alive by
lice and fleas -- now the horse
beside my pillow pees


4.Lightning:
Heron's cry
Stabs the darkness
Basho

5.first on a track
night spider webs
catch my face
Yao Feng (Tasmania)

6.bang!
robin feathers stuck to the frosty window
-- just the cat's tail moves

7.Along the roadside,
blossoming wild roses
in my horse’s mouth

8.Summer grasses:
all that remains of great soldiers’
imperial dreams

and last but not least my personal favorite

9.
Old pond,
frog jumps in
- splash
Basho

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passing shadows
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1 posted 2003-11-15 03:24 AM


Zen is a strangely fascinating art...you could ask Local Rebel or MidniteSun, even by email.

I have no clue

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2 posted 2003-11-15 02:50 PM




(sigh) I am not quite familiar with the beautiful art of Zen but these poems truly made me smile, sweet friend, there are certainly some who know of Zen that would be fascinated with these moreover, I love these, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, thank you for sharing!



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Love,
Noah Eaton

I don't need no proof when it comes to God and truth
I can see the sun set and I perceive

***Live***

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3 posted 2003-11-15 03:23 PM



"its a form of enlightenment through meditation and insight".....I looked a little of it up on the web....it's very interesting...just type Zen into your web browser, I am sure you will find many different answers to what you are looking for......
Lauren~

i carry your heart with me
i am never without it
you are what a moon has always meant sky of sky
the wonder that keeps stars apart-
e.e.cummings

greco
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4 posted 2003-11-15 04:54 PM


ok thanks i was just fasicnated with it it very interesting
inkedgoddess
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5 posted 2003-11-15 11:07 PM


i became enlightened this morning.......
tonight, time to do the laundry

Magic Solias
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6 posted 2003-11-15 11:10 PM


If you can break the koan, you'll experience enlightenment.

Magic Solias

"we dream to love and love to dream"

wandering glider
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7 posted 2003-11-16 12:20 PM


greco,

Look into the history of Haiku (Japanese poetic form, more or less) and you will find these and others like them.  Buson and Basho are considered Haiku Masters.  This form is not generally thought of as a part of Zen.  You may be confusing the Zen Koan with the Haiku poem (both worth study).

-glider-

[This message has been edited by wandering glider (11-16-2003 12:22 AM).]

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8 posted 2003-11-16 09:14 AM


LOL at the inked reply, but it IS Zen.
The suggestions to search the net for Zen and Haiku both are excellent, and wandering glider's reply points to a pathway that can bring you close to an understanding of these different but often overlapping thoughts and forms.
Most Zen writings encourage you to immerse yourself in the MOMENT. For me, each small unit of Time comes into sharper focus, and when I am in Zen mode, I more readily observe the full picture of what is going on. I acknowledge my present feelings and reactions to everything, while keeping a 'safe' distance from the emotions and thoughts of all other 'happenings' so that I can truly experience this moment. But this is only one aspect of Zen that I enjoy.
In Zentime, your mind and heart stay open and fresh, hopefully more receptive.
As for Haiku? It is a poetic form, as is Senryu, both of which are short, usually three line 5-7-5 syllable format, Haiku having a nature theme, Senryu more general. And while they may also have a Zen theme, it isn't a requirement.
LOL, and this reply is far too wordy to be a Zen reply.  Have some fun learning these different poetic formats!    

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9 posted 2003-11-16 09:24 AM


greco
Enjoyed your request and I think it has been answered.

greco
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10 posted 2003-11-16 10:08 AM


Midnitesun thank you very much this has answered my question and has enlightned me more now that i think this way about them thank you very much!!!

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11 posted 2003-11-16 12:32 PM


Thanks Kacy   I knew you'd come through

I wonder where our Local Rebel is these days?

[This message has been edited by passing shadows (11-16-2003 12:33 PM).]

Jes
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12 posted 2003-11-16 02:36 PM


Hehehhehehhehehhehehehehhehehhe

I liked this wery much lol, still laughing.

Especially i laughed at this one as i tried to imagine it in pictures and smells.

3. Eaten alive by
lice and fleas -- now the horse
beside my pillow pees

Hehhehehhe smile but great just great

Jes


greco
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13 posted 2003-11-22 07:35 PM


ya it is great
i get a kcik out of these poems

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