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Huan Yi
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0 posted 2007-03-24 10:14 PM


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“But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay them before me.”


I read this in: “Rebels  The Irish Rising of 1916” by Peter De Rosa
and according to his book it was what finally motivated an English
major to execute three unarmed men taken captive.

This is the first time I’ve read anything that alleges to come from
the New Testament, (that is the life and sayings of Jesus), that seemed
akin to the beat down if not kill the unbeliever passages I’ve read in the Koran.

Am I understanding the passage correctly?  Are there others?

John


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Denise
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1 posted 2007-03-25 09:16 AM


John, this saying is part of a parable. The words are attributed in the parable to "a certain man, a noble, who went into a far country, to obtain for himself a kingdom, and to return." The parable also states that his citizens hated him and did not want him to rule over them. The noble also refers to himself as a harsh man who dealt severely with his slave who did not put money entrusted to him in the bank to earn interest and instead hid it in a hankerchief for safekeeping. I've never seen a study on this parable and don't know what it means other than "To whom much is given, much will be required", but I'm sure others here may know, and I will try to see if I can find any studies done on this particular parable.
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2 posted 2007-03-27 01:20 AM


John,

In light of Jesus' constant urging against the tendencies of Zealotism among the Jews (and among some of his own disciples), this parable would hardly make sense in a literal fashion.  It does paint a graphic picture of God's vengeance toward his defiant enemies at the Seond Coming, however.  But regardless of how palatble or justifiable someone finds the teaching of God's wrath, this cannot easily be confused with presecriptions to violence, without violence first being done to the text.  


Stephen.

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