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icebox
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0 posted 2003-06-06 08:28 PM



Brown and quiet your valley is
and it waits for you,
your homes stand still
swept clean by the wind,
and the white men you never got to see.

Leaning against the wall of the pit
where you sang your prayers
in a cactus daze,
I am alone,
no other tourists
no camera's curious eye
to probe the dust;

I feel you in the fire of the sun,
your black eyes bright
with knowing nature's harmony.

Across the valley,
as if painted on the cliffs,
empty holes today stare
through other almost hidden walls,
and watch for you through centuries.

Your thoughts stand with me
comfortably,
leaning on the rocks,
while the bounty
of the gardens of your dreams
surrounds me;

scattered tiny shards beneath my feet
are calling cards of artisans
who touched the earth with honesty.

Although your homes are so disheveled,
and defenseless,
slowly leveled by the unrelenting press of time,
the walls I know
can hear the children's silver laughter
as they dance from room to room,
a thousand years ago,
before the final hunger
came to drive us all away.

I am here today
only to remember.


©2003 by icebox

© Copyright 2003 icebox - All Rights Reserved
Martie
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1 posted 2003-06-06 08:43 PM


icebox....I have been there, seen this, with the same sort of feeling.....the emotional pull towards the past.  Your camera is in your memory and this poem.
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2 posted 2003-06-06 08:47 PM


You are SO good.

I could read you all day.

In fact, today I did.

Thank you.

nakdthoughts
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3 posted 2003-06-06 08:50 PM


Serenity said it well, you are a pleasure to read...

M

jwesley
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4 posted 2003-06-06 09:39 PM


wonderful tale my friend...

jwesley

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5 posted 2003-06-06 11:17 PM


I've been there, seen it, felt it...just never could put it into words quite as well as you have. Thanks for the read

Sid

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6 posted 2003-06-06 11:21 PM


Good write! Didja know that "they" now think that the Anasazi were cannibles?
Bill Charles
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7 posted 2003-06-07 12:16 PM


icebox - I'm glad I found your writings to read, they are very good.

BC

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8 posted 2003-06-07 12:20 PM


ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT!!! You took me into an ancient past where I could hear the lost echoes of those who once lived and breathed the same air as we do...I felt them come to life, in your words, among the ancient ruins that sit long lost and forgotten....MAGNIFICENT...I LOVE IT...

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9 posted 2003-06-07 12:26 PM


An excellent writing, icebox..

I have been to the cliff dwellings at Mesa Verde and it is an amazing site. There were several round "pits" hollowed in the ground where men would descend and stand in a circle, certainly drug-induced as you so expertly point out, praying to whatever gods they believed in by going into deep trances. There was one very large room hollowed out of the mountain's side. Deep inside the room, at the back, the walls and ceiling were black where a huge fire had burned, warming the tribe. The fire could not have survived anywhere else or it would have been extinguished by the brutal Colorado winters. I mentioned to the old guide that the entire room must have filled with smoke due to the absence of ventilation and he nodded his head in acknowledgement and said that most of the deaths of the tribal members had resulted from poor health. Imagining sitting in that cavern filled with smoke every night I could certainly understand that. There was little about their lives that could be called glamorous. I enjoy reading about them and I'm glad as hell I wasn't one of them!

icebox
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10 posted 2003-06-07 02:23 AM


Martie ~ *smile* Some places are more familiar than others.  Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.

serenity blaze ~ What a kind thing to say!  Thank you.  I hope you were at least reasonably entertained. *smile*

nakdthoughts ~ It is a pleasure to be read.  Thank you for taking the time to read this.

jwesley ~ I am glad you enjoyed it.  Thank you for reading my poem.

cynicsRus ~ I am glad you can connect with them.  Thank you for reading this and for your comment.

Ishmael ~ Yes, well no one is perfect.  I also have heard the Christian ritual of the Eucharist described as a cannibalistic rite.  Like some others, I am intrigued by the absence of physical remains, even in ash deposits, at most of the major sites.  Yet the climate is not very destructive of organic matter.  At one site I saw a feather from a parrot that only lives in South America.  It looked like the bird dropped it the day before; its colors were that bright.  It was over a thousand years old.  Thank you for reading my poem.

Bill Charles ~ Thank you very much, Sir.  I appreciate the time it takes to read and to comment.

Startime55 ~ I am glad you remember.  Those were interesting lives.  Thank you for reading my poem and for your kind comments.

Balladeer ~ They are a statement of unconquered human spirit.  Hard, harsh lives and unyielding religious and philosophical beliefs.  Constantly fearing attack.  Constantly prepared for battle.  How far has the world come....   

Mesa Verde is an amazing place.  I sat one afternoon on a high outcrop that gave a long view of the land to the South.  I was using a 2000mm lens and was looking for unmarked structures.  I only was able to scan about 5 degrees of the field of vision and I lost count at a little over 300 very much intact, unmarked structures that were either single room buildings or multiple room combinations.  I have heard that most of the area is being closed to tourism because of damage from vibration and also from the humidity of too many bodies sweating and breathing.  

You are right that these were not glamorous lives.  Thank you for reading my poem and for your insights.

[This message has been edited by icebox (06-07-2003 11:56 PM).]

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11 posted 2003-06-07 02:39 AM


*sitting in silent awe*
icebox
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12 posted 2003-06-07 02:45 AM


passing shadows ~ Thank you, it was my pleasure Ma'am.  
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13 posted 2003-06-07 08:34 AM


wow! gave me goosebumps...
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14 posted 2003-06-07 12:07 PM


Thank you for this, ice.
It was my pleasure to visit those very cliff dwellings years ago, and eencounter the spiritual remnants of the ancients.
It was also my luck to have spent some time on Mount Masada in Israel, and an overwhelming connection with the past left me in near total silence. (something I'm not known for )
Your poetry describes a parallel emotional moment. I'll be keeping this one.

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15 posted 2003-06-07 06:58 PM


I was at this place, or one of its incarnations, just a month ago....but neither my words nor my photographs captured it as well as you have done here. An excellent piece of writing.

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16 posted 2003-06-07 07:15 PM


enjoyed
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17 posted 2003-06-07 07:34 PM


IceBox~
How wonderfully I enjoyed the reverent tone in this write~
So much to be admired in the peoples of the past~
You pay graceful homage to the cliff dwellers~

Beautifully done.
Thank you for the read~
*Huglets*
~*Marge*~

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icebox
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18 posted 2003-06-08 12:12 PM


Edder ~ Well, thank you for sharing that with me.  I am glad this poem touched you.  Thank you for reading it and for pausing to comment.

Midnitesun ~ Now, why doesn't this surprise me? *smile* More intersecting threads perhaps. *laugh* Thank you for reading this and for your comments.

Ratleader ~ I too sometimes am left without words when I am there.  Thank you for reading and for your comment.

vandana ~ I am glad you enjoyed this.  Thank you for reading and for taking time to comment.

Marge Tindal ~ They were a remarkable people.  I have always been intrigued by civilizations that blossomed, flourish, perished and are gone with few traces, leaving just enough for the base of a mystery.  Some leave so little trace, like the circle cut in the bedrock of the peninsula which juts out into Biscayne Bay where the Miami River empties into the Bay - no one really knows who built that or why.  
For me, these particular places, the Anasazi sites,  are as if I am going home.  I understand them and see them in my mind as if they are still living vibrant communities.  Thank you for reading this poem and for taking time to comment.

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19 posted 2003-06-09 01:03 PM


I've yearned to visit, just to listen... your words made that happen. *S*
icebox
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20 posted 2003-06-09 02:10 PM


suthern ~ Thank you for reading this poem.  I hope one day you get to walk their paths, touch the stones, see what waited for them each morning as they awoke.  Thank you for your comment.
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21 posted 2003-06-09 03:24 PM


IceBox~
Such a gracious response ... thank you~

Check out this post from our own Corinne~
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Being of Cherokee blood, I am most interested in the studies of peoples of the past~
Hope you'll take a minute or two and visit my Native Indian Heritage poetry site.
Just click on that little house icon and it'll take you there.

I'm also sharing your post with Corrine,
she will greatly enjoy reading you~
*Huglets*
~*Marge*~

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22 posted 2003-06-09 03:55 PM


Hi Icebox - what a lovely poem this is! You've captured that magic so gently, so wonderfully!

I recall ice crystals falling from a clear blue sky while we stood on a ledge.

You brought back all of those memories!

And Marge, thank you, lady, for remembering my poem, too! Very sweet of you - brought a smile to my face and made my day!

Icebox, Marge has hundreds of beautiful native american writings of her own, you should do a search on her name and check it out!


Corinne

icebox
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23 posted 2003-06-10 08:48 PM


Marge Tindal ~ Thank you so very much for sharing these things with me.
I like "Moccasin Man" the best (for now *grin* ).
Your images and imagery are really stunning.


Corinne ~ I think the sky really is bluer there.  I love your poem as I do love Chaco.  I feel very much at home there (whenever I am willing to destroy an automobile getting into the Canyon).  It is one of the places where I have known where things were before I saw them.  Thank you for reading my poem and for taking time to comment.

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