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bsquirrel

Member Rara Avis

since 2000-01-03

Posts 7855

0 posted 2002-10-01 12:35 PM

There are no handles underwater,
clinking surf against the coast
screwed back in for use.

There is no wire underwater,
barbing sun too far to reach,
sinking into dawn.

There are no gunshots underwater.
No charged lines of reddened flags
to impress the waves.

There are no black doors underwater,
coded ideas locked in sleep,
sand in pyre's pile.

There is no cordwood underwater.
If you stand there, Senator,
you might see their limbs.

There is no music underwater,
rich as song's unoffered rest.
Burning notes in score.

There are no letters underwater.
Ink fades, oh my memory.
Ink fades fast, I learned.
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/10/01/leni_riefenstahl/index.html

INclan
Senior Member

since 1999-07-20

Posts 1024
Indiana, USA

1 posted 2002-10-01 12:41 PM

Interesting poem. I followed the link you provided. I take it you saw the film and were inspired. I regret that I have not seen the film so to comment on the content of your poem would be pointless. I do, however, enjoy reading your work, even if I do not respond.

Best Regards,

INclan

bsquirrel

Member Rara Avis

since 2000-01-03

Posts 7855

2 posted 2002-10-01 12:46 PM

Hi, INclan. I haven't seen you in a long while, so it's good to see ya again!

Anyway, I haven't seen the film. I think this is actually inspired by the timing. I saw Train of Life last night, and then came in this morning to see the above item posted on Salon.com -- so my mind spilled out.

It's more about this filmmaker seeing the purity she's striving for, through complete denial of her past and the crimes she was part of.

Thanks for readin'.

Cpat Hair

Member Patricius

since 2001-06-05

Posts 11793

3 posted 2002-10-01 01:08 PM

interesting perspective and as usual a very good write.

denial like rationalization are it seems neccessary parts of coping...

enjoyed the thoughts my friend.

Moonlight Romeo

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since 2001-09-10

Posts 982
The heart of you

4 posted 2002-10-01 01:23 PM

The Deustch is what caught my eye. The film stays in the mind.

Thank you.

What light through yon window breaks? It is the east, and Juliet is the sun.

brian madden
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since 2000-05-06

Posts 4374
ireland

5 posted 2002-10-01 01:32 PM

Hi Mike, at first I thought it was about
"Swim fan" when I followed the link I felt like an idiot, I haven't seen that Riefenstahl film, though I watched sections of "Olympia" as part of my course in college. A very striking and graphic film, the scene with the runners on the bank is an image that will stick in my mind for a long time, a chilling metaphor for the "superiority" of the third reich.

Anyway ranting here, enjoyed the poem, a wonderful piece beautiful and unsettling at the same time.

Don't drag the orchestra into this thing
Rattle those sticks, rattle those sticks
The sound is beautiful, its perfect!
The birthday party

bsquirrel

Member Rara Avis

since 2000-01-03

Posts 7855

6 posted 2002-10-01 01:32 PM

Thank you both. This was difficult to write, and even more difficult to post.

bsquirrel

Member Rara Avis

since 2000-01-03

Posts 7855

7 posted 2002-10-01 01:34 PM

Thanks brian. Again, I didn't see the film. I just found it interesting that she became obsessed with the water. Trying to cleanse or purify? I don't know. There's a lot of questions, and, sadly, a lot of history that can not be changed.

Tiersdin
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since 2000-11-17

Posts 2364
east coast

8 posted 2002-10-01 01:54 PM

Well done, Mikey, well done...

~Tier

"I shall never bond again, as I have bonded with you..."

Anvrill
Senior Member

since 2002-06-21

Posts 710
in the interzone now

9 posted 2002-10-01 02:50 PM

Hon, I think you're obsessed with the water!

'Course, many a good poem has come out of it. And should I be sorry for getting you so interested in the German language?

Love you.

your tongue's like poison
so swollen it fills up my mouth

rs

bsquirrel

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since 2000-01-03

Posts 7855

10 posted 2002-10-01 02:53 PM

Thanks, Robin. Glad you enjoyed this.

Lori ... thank you, baby.

[This message has been edited by bsquirrel (10-01-2002 05:07 PM).]

bsquirrel

Member Rara Avis

since 2000-01-03

Posts 7855

11 posted 2002-10-01 03:24 PM

P.S., Lor, I love you too. *kiss*

Anvrill
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since 2002-06-21

Posts 710
in the interzone now

12 posted 2002-10-01 05:21 PM

Lovely, I want you to know that this evokes painfully beautiful images; the stark black and white war pictures that haunt you for years after you last see them. The sickness and sadness of human tragedy and denial.

*sigh* I can just see people drowning in that water...

your tongue's like poison
so swollen it fills up my mouth

rs

bsquirrel

Member Rara Avis

since 2000-01-03

Posts 7855

13 posted 2002-10-01 05:27 PM

Thank you, Lori,
for your insight,
for your eye,
for your song,
for your sadness,
for your mind.

I love you.

Enchantress
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since 2001-08-14

Posts 35113
Canada eh.

14 posted 2002-10-01 08:03 PM

Very very nicely done Mikey!
Much enjoyed.
~Hugs~

~ Time has cast a spell on you
So you won't ever forget me ~

Martie

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since 1999-09-21

Posts 28049
California

15 posted 2002-10-01 08:44 PM

Mike

"There are no letters underwater.
Ink fades, oh my memory.
Ink fades fast, I learned"

Hauntingly beautiful...left me feeling tragedy and humanity at the same time...even before I went to the link.

serenity blaze
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since 2000-02-02

Posts 27738

16 posted 2002-10-01 08:54 PM

very lovely Mikey (though granted, somehow not too reasurrring right now

)

I am nervously mute now.

?

Mistletoe Angel

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since 2000-12-17

Posts 32816
Portland, Oregon

17 posted 2002-10-01 11:09 PM

(big hugggssssss) Oh Michael, this feels so sad, sweet friend, I hope now you are rising above the surface and breathing that music and calm reflection! (sigh) My heart goes out to you, sweet friend, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, sweet Michael, thank you for sharing!

May love and light always shine upon you!

Love,
Noah Eaton

"Underneath your clothes there's an endless story..."

Shakira

bsquirrel

Member Rara Avis

since 2000-01-03

Posts 7855

18 posted 2002-10-02 12:14 PM

Thanks all, for reading and getting out of this poem what you do.

No mutedness needed, Sen.

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