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wranx
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since 2002-06-07

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Moved from a shack to a barn

0 posted 2003-03-10 05:15 AM

Though I belong to no church, I find myself contemplating spending time with some nearby Trappists. Those that know me, don’t find this……….extraordinary

Can a man
Who possesses
No religiosity
But, has ever attempted
To acquire spirituality
Come away from
Trappist trappings
Any richer?

Can a man
Who prides himself
On his vocabulary
But has never
Actually said anything
Come away from
Cistercian silence
With the ability
To speak?

And finally,

Can a man
Who has lately lived
Lacking creature comfort
And certainly wanting
For any comfort creature
Come away from
A monastic retreat
Any less austere?

Cpat Hair

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since 2001-06-05

Posts 11793

1 posted 2003-03-10 05:26 AM

nicely done Ed... and many years ago..I too considered just the same.

littlewing
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since 2003-03-02

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2 posted 2003-03-10 06:05 AM

Ed - ok I may be off but here goes:

(forgive me if I am off - correct me if I am please)

the first:  yes - you already are rich

the second:  more insightful (if that is possible with you lol)

third: an enigma only you will resolve by looking within

Have me thinkin here always - this is amazing xxoo

serenity blaze
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3 posted 2003-03-10 06:19 AM

(I always found monks kinda sexy m'self.)

I think it has to do with artistry, and the self being the ultimate canvas.

and nothing about your gentle grace surprises me.

You have the wisdom of discernment m'friend.

serenity blaze
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Posts 27738

4 posted 2003-03-10 08:32 PM

I came back to say...I was a little shy about saying everything I wanted to say about this. I am awkward about such things, as ya know. But I think often, about the need to put back, what we take out.

(GIGO--Garbage In--Garbage Out)

I say often, that even Jesus the Christed, took time away from his chosen apostles to pray, meditate, and renew. How can we of such simple understanding choose less?

I use the analogy of a battery often---that we must emit and receive in constancy, and it is when we fail to achieve this that causes our imbalances....

and yes, it is cliche' by now to cite that the word "atonement" means "at-one-ment"--
and disease can be equated with un-ease...

but even if all of the above philosophies are incorrect? At least I have the option to choose to die happy....

and oooh, ya make me dig deep m'yeti....

love you.

Aenimal
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5 posted 2003-03-10 09:29 PM

Ed this reminds me of Hesse's Siddhartha, where the protaganist leaves hinduism when he no longer finds solace in it, he joins ascetics in the forest until again it no longer suits him, he turns his back on spirituality to emerse himself in material to see if that would make him happy it does not, he even walks with the buddha himself but again finds no solace. Buddha, Jesus etc..they had to create their own paths when following no longer suited them.

Aenimal
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the ass-end of space

6 posted 2003-03-10 09:33 PM

http://www.online-literature.com/hesse/siddhartha/

For anyone who's curious..god Ed always get me thinking..

Martie

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7 posted 2003-03-10 10:01 PM

Wranx--To question is a good thing...and there are many paths to self discovery..and they all lead to some place else. The way of your thinking refreshes my tired mind.

wranx
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since 2002-06-07

Posts 3689
Moved from a shack to a barn

8 posted 2003-03-10 10:15 PM

Thanks Ron. And I coulda guessed.

Karen, my witch. thank you and thank you.
The worst case, is plenty of "Trappist" beer and....uh...fruitcake.

Raff? If I'd known that someone already walked this path, I'd have saved some time.
Sheesh.

Not a riddle, Sue. At least, not for anyone but me. Oops! Maybe it is.

Marti, The reason for this, would be for that kind of refreshment. Plus the beer and fruitcake.

Greeneyes

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In Your Poetic Mind

9 posted 2003-03-10 10:17 PM

you are deep in richness, in more ways then one.....I, too, find myself thinking beyond realms....its all good....hugsss you
Lauren~

Take me where the tides start
So I can pull you into me

littlewing
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New York

10 posted 2003-03-11 01:19 AM

hehehe Ed - Im learning . . .

passing shadows
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displaced

11 posted 2003-03-11 02:42 AM

.....wow

Ratleader

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12 posted 2003-03-13 12:09 PM

Heh-heh.... the answers are:
Yes, Yes, and Decidedly Yes.

On the other hand, I find most things about you....extraordinary

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KristieSue

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since 2003-01-31

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13 posted 2003-03-13 02:24 AM

*pondering*

excellent job...I love when I'm made to think!

Midnitesun

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Gaia

14 posted 2003-03-21 02:07 PM

Just come back to us afterwards, OK?

Jason Lyle
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since 2003-02-07

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With my darkling

15 posted 2003-03-21 03:50 PM

Wranx, your writing is amazing.........it makes me feel.......shallow.And your vocab, sends me running for definitions.You are truly one of my forum favorites.
Jason

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