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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia 
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
It looks like a photo shoot to me. In which case I don't see a problem manufacturing tears with Vick. It was still funny though. . |
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Mysteria 
since 2001-03-07
Posts 18328British Columbia, Canada |
Reb, you know me well enough to know what I am thinking, and can't type here.  |
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Denise
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-08-22
Posts 22648 |
So what's this supposed to 'expose', other than the fact that he used Vicks during a photo shoot to fake cry? Is it supposed to prove that whenever he choked up on air (usually when reminiscing about his parents or mentioning his special-needs daughter) that it was fake? Oh please. |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuV1XG517cc&feature=channel |
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Denise
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-08-22
Posts 22648 |
Some of us still do get choked up thinking about or talking about the horrors of that day, I know I do. Why would people assume that Beck is faking it when he talks about it? |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
However uneducated he may be, Beck is smart enough to know that the WWE gets higher ratings than he does -- so why not emulate them? |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
quote: Because he does it at the drop of a hat and it looks so fake. Granted, it may be for real, I don't think it is but it might conceivably be that he blubbers like a baby at the slightest thing. I'm even willing to accept that maybe, just maybe, this guy cries in such a way that looks exactly like he's faking it when he isn't. If that's the case though he has some really serious issues - it's not natural to burst into tears like that - he needs to seek professional help. A mental health expert would probably say he had some serious psychological issues, especially when you look at the inane conspiracy theories he keeps spouting. They possibly border on paranoid delusions. Or as TYT, rather crudely, say - the guy is freaking nuts.  |
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Ringo
since 2003-02-20
Posts 3684Saluting with misty eyes |
What's so sad is that the liberals (not all, of course, but the ones that posted on the cvideo, certainly) are wasting their time with this garbage... A very wise man one told me that if they (whomever "they" are) are attempting to discredit you, demean you, and bring you down, then you must be doing something right. If he wasn't so effective at presenting the truth (regardl;ess of how over the top his methods), and showing the ultra-liberal cause in such a bad light, then they would not be hounding him as much as they do... they would be IGNORING him, because he was annoying, and full of garbagio. And before the flaming starts, answer this question: Why has his little red phone, a direct line to the White House Communications Director) never rung when he made any of his "false, scheming, anti-American lies"? If someone invited me to call in LIVE on the tv as they were telling the entire world something about me that was complete and total BS... I would be dialing the number so quickly that the phone would be ringing before I was done pushing the buttons. Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, "WHAT A RIDE |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
quote: Or doing something so inanely stupid we are compelled to watch - if they called it "Beck says the stupidest things" I'd still watch and I'd still email my friends with links so they can laugh at him too. I'll get bored eventually though. quote: Are you serious? Because talking to him would afford him more credence than he deserves. Do you stop to talk to the wino standing in the middle of the street tossing rocks at passing cars? Of course you don't, why? Because you're unlikely to gain anything from the conversation apart from a rock on your noggin. Beck has the phone set up for the same reason the wino is tossing rocks, he's demanding attention. If someone talks to the wino he wins, if they don't he still wins the attention of the drivers he's tossing rocks at. . |
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Denise
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-08-22
Posts 22648 |
I wouldn't actually expect Dunn to call on the red phone, nor do I think Beck does, but she does need to be specific regarding her allegations that Fox lies and spreads misinformation since she and others at the White House have made that broad generalized claim. I think the point of the red phone is just a reminder that those specifics have still not been given in any format. |
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Balladeer
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since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
Thanks, LR! You have made my day and given me a smile before going to see the man with the sharp knife.  Has desperation set in so deeply you have to bite on this one? I would tend to agree with one of the commenters on the thread under the video...This is another example of anticonservatism misrepresenting the facts by selectively showing only those things which appear to support their bias. This was a photo shoot, not an attempt to fake out the public. Apparently libs don't know the difference. Or maybe they don't want to know the difference because it wouldn't serve to promote their agenda. Free speech means we all get to have our say even if it does offend. It was obviously a photo shoot instead of a show prep. Beck certainly knows the publicity surrounding his crying and decided to spoof himself by taping this little ditty and getting it on youtube for some overzealous liberal to see it and run with it. Come on....have you ever seen those facial expressions they came up with on his show? So sad it's funny would be your taking the bait and falling for it. Perhaps, for your next attempt, you can follow the lead of another liberal responder to the video.. Rumour from those who know Beck... Glenn Beck likes to lick little boys' dirty underwear! Seriously. The liberal media will not tell the truth about this! His most fanatical fans reportedly even send little boys dirty briefs to him for free, as well as dirty diapers. Beck is a sick (deleted), and he must be kept away from any boy or man under the age of 30. Hopefully Beck will suck on the end of a gun and pull the trigger... go meet up with you brother Glenn! He is waiting. Imagine what you could do with that one.... |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
quote: They're self evident Denise, nobody needs to talk to the wino to confirm the fact that he's tossing rocks so why do they need to explain to Beck that he's making stuff up? Ringo suggested that they ignore him - well guess what.. |
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Denise
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-08-22
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They lose credibility when they throw out generalized charges of 'lies and misinformation' and then fail to give specifics. Probably just another distraction to take the spotlight off of the stuff they are trying to ram through Congress. |
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Ringo
since 2003-02-20
Posts 3684Saluting with misty eyes |
Fine, don't call his show. I can deal with the fallacy of that, without even straining to rectify it within my own feeble brain. I would, however, point out how the Obama administration is acting like a child feeling abused by his older brother. When othe 5 year old comes sailing down the stairs crying that the 6 year old is being mean, I- first thing- ask why, and get the response, "She said something mean to me." I next ask, "what did she say?" and get the response, "uh... she said I peed the bed." The thing is, the night before, she had done exactly that. Now, Fox is being the mean older brother, and the Administration is being the whiney 5 year old complaining that the older brother is telling the truth. Before the left wing contention begins rejecting this premise out of hand, let me ask you this: Where is the Administration's statements/proof that the original bill was not going to require people to be on the government's health plan? Section 102, Paragraph a, number 1, sub paragraph A of the original bill specifically stated that insurance companies could not write any new business after the first day of the law had taken effect. Sub-paragraph B states that dependants opf people who have health care may be written new business... but not anyone being eligible for new coverage under a new job, or whatever. Ditto the assertion that the Administration's healthcare plan was going to require taxes on the middle class, and that it was going to not be cost effective at all. Well, new reports are that it is going to cost 1 TRILLION dollars to put the enw plan into effect... and not require a new tax on the middle class??? Fox News is telling the truth, and the Obama administration is complaining that they are doing so... just like my 5 year old. Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, "WHAT A RIDE |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
quote: You've been listening to Beck for too long Ringo. If you actually bothered to read the section you're quoting you'd find that it related to grandfathered policies. Basically it stops insurance companies selling sub-standard policies and ripping off innocent customers but oddly it allows any existing policies to continue. How can I put this without offending anyone - You're statement is not in alignment with what most people would generally accept as being a true representation of the truth. I can post the whole section if you like, or you can hunt out the thread where I explained it the last time someone made the claim. |
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Balladeer
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since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
As far as I know, no one is required to watch or listen to Glenn Beck or anyone else. Answer should be simple enough for those who mock him....don't watch. It's really not that hard to figure out. |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
quote: So that's why Beck is going to so much trouble and spending so much air time on Van Jones, ACORN, and Anita Dunn.... But seriously -- all I did was post a funny video of the man being himself -- and if you think that discredits him -- then -- well -- tis the eye of the beholder Bradley. Wise man indeed! A few verified lies and half-truths told by Mr. Beck meant intentionally to mislead his audience: quote: Or maybe it's not intentional... here he admits he doesn't check facts (and demonstrably lies when the truth will do): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3cC87uPmw Of course Lindsey Graham may have a different reason for demeaning Glenn Beck than that he thinks he is "effective": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP_DMTbfbdE |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
Mike -- glad I got under your skin! I know I've been effective when you call me desperate!  Now I know you have a good reason to wake up and heal up so you can come back and scrap again another day! My thoughts and best hopes are with you old friend. |
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Balladeer
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
A very wise man one (sic) told me that if they (whomever "they" are) are attempting to discredit you, demean you, and bring you down, then you must be doing something right. That, of course, can also explain why people are going to so much trouble to spend so much time on Beck. all I did was post a funny video of the man being himself DOn't be so humble, reb. Prefacing it with "sad" makes it a little more than that, of course. I really appreciate your well-wishes, LR. It's not something I'm looking forward to, already knowing what it's going to be like, thanks to the first one. I AM, however, looking forward to coming back for more Alley misadventures and petty Beckering! Be well...... |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
Well yes, I'm sure that was Bradley's original point Mike... Obviously 'sad' is in reference to our 'sad clown' Mr. Beck, the real funny part is that despite all of your (conservative's) protestations -- you'll never look at the sniveling dry-drunk again without wondering if Procter and Gamble's stock just went up! Flirt with the nurses!P.S. When my father was dying with cancer in order to check his orientation to the world the nurses and doctors would always begin conversations with questions like 'what day is it?' 'what town are you in?' 'who is the president?' To the latter question (my dad didn't think much of our 42nd president) he would respond "I don't have one." Which let us know he was still himself. If they try that on you in the recovery room just say "of Kenya?" |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
quote: Right now I'm hooked Mike, he's so funny. Besides how the heck can we mock him if we don't know his latest tin pot conspiracy theory? |
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Balladeer
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
LR, I think your dad and I would have gotten along just fine. Thanks for the tip |
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Bob K Member Elite
since 2007-11-03
Posts 4208 |
Dear Mike, Good luck, guy. Take the pain stuff. You'll heal faster with it. I'm waiting to continue our discussions here, though I'm not sure that'll make you hurry back or not. Affectionately, Bob Kaven |
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Bob K Member Elite
since 2007-11-03
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Dear Denise, I'm not a Beck person, so I really don't keep track of what he says. If you're interested in half-truths, though, you might compare what he says about ACORN to the actual facts as supplied by Grinch. You might also look some of them up in the 60 some page research study that went along with my Washington Post reference a week or so ago. You know I disagree with you, so I'm not even beginning to suggest you take my word on it. I'm simply suggesting that you do some research that isn't politically biased at all, right or left, and use that as a yardstick. Is that too much to consider? Sincerely, Bob Kaven |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
Well Mike -- My dad and you might have gotten along ok -- but don't think that just because he didn't like Bubba Clinton that he was in alignment with you. He was a Truman Democrat who voted for Ike, Nixon, and Reagan -- and was furious at Nixon and Bush, Hated Ford, liked Bob Dole, hated the radical religious right. He'd tell you that Roosevelt saved his life and was a staunch civil-libertarian who was ahead of his time on equal rights for women and racial equality. Went to war for his country in Europe but was saved by a virus because it kept him out of a battle that wiped out his entire unit. He had many friends who agreed to disagree with him though and he didn't mind taking their money on the back nine. |
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Balladeer
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since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
Doesn't matter his views, LR. Anyone with spunk like that would be aces in my book. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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I agree. LR's Dad had great spunk.  |
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Ringo
since 2003-02-20
Posts 3684Saluting with misty eyes |
quote: Actually, Grinch, I read the entire bill, and that sectioin more than once (I wasn't working at the time, and had the time to actually do so). I never said that it did not allow existing coverage... what it says is that companies may no longer write NEW business... such as that which would be written from people getting new jobs, or such. The only health insurance I have at the moment is the VA... were that plan to have passed, I would not be permitted to get any insurance with a private company after the law took effect, because as the bill plainly states: quote: This seems to me that, yes, I would be allowed to keep my BC/BS policy offered through the job I have now (grandfathered)... however, if the company were to close down and I got a new job at a factory, then I could not get their coverage through, say, Humana, or whatever because it took place after the bill became law, because they are not permitted to write new business...unless I marry my girlfriend and put her and her kids on my policy.... however, that is another thread. quote: Well, according to my local listings, Glenn Beck comes on FNC at 5:00 pm EST... as I do not get out of work until 6:30, and do not get home until 7:30 on nights I do not have rehearsal (when I get home around 11:00), it seems to me that the lovely and talented Mr. Beck does not cross my path. And, if my thoguhts are anything even close to his, then it is very simply that he and I have understood that passage to mean very similar things. I knew I liked that man for some reason  quote: Very few people have what it takes to offend me, so that is not even half a concern. As for my statement not "being in line with what most people would generally accept as the truth"... I couldn't care less... it is my opinion of how that passage reads, and there are too many others out there who read it the same way for me to begin to think that I am completely off the line in this matter. Also, most people generally accepted the fact that (then) Senator Obama was going to make the economy the best it had ever been, and that he was going to be the best president to ever hit the Oval... and now, most people (judging from the multiple polls being released) accept the fact that he is not what they thought at first.... It's funny about how most people can't quite figure out what in the name of Thor's Holy Hammer they believe. quote: Obviously, not, if more than one person saw it as otherwise. quote: I always figured personal attacks were beneath you, LR. Anyhow, those are my thoughts. Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, "WHAT A RIDE |
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Ron
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
quote: Note, Ringo, that it doesn't say offering any coverage? It is, indeed, quite specific about which coverage can no longer be offered. Policies that are currently in effect but do not meet the new legal requirements will continue to remain in effect (grandfathered). Those same policies however, policies that do not meet the new legal requirements, cannot be offered if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1. Essentially, "The old policies are bogus and unfair to people, but okay, we'll let you keep them. Going forward, however, you can only write new policies as provided by law." That's what "such coverage" means, Ringo. That passage doesn't preclude any coverage by health insurance companies. Just, such coverage. Make sense? |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
quote: Understood? I'd say misunderstood was closer to the mark, normally that isn't an issue. When someone makes a mistake that's pointed out to them they take another look, see the error and amend their opinion so they don't repeat or compound the error. It's human nature, we all make mistakes - it's how we learn. The difference between most people and Beck though is that he's making the error over and over again presumably on purpose, I say on purpose because more people than you could shake a stick at have explained what that passage actually means so he's had the chance to check it out and amend his opinion. Has he amended his opinion? Heck no, he just moves on to the next manufactured misunderstanding. If he turned around on one of his shows and said "We ran a story last week where I said X, Y and Z, well after taking a closer look at the issue it turns out that we were wrong", I'd have a tad more respect for the guy. As it stands - he comes across as a jerk. BTW. Beck isn't even screened in the UK, I get my laughs by watching him online - you should try it, you'll get a better understanding of how big of a jerk he really is if you watched him in action. |
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Bob K Member Elite
since 2007-11-03
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Dear Ringo, Does what Grinch says about the reading of that section make sense to you? Does what Ron says make sense to you? I am terrible at reading legalese and am glad for the clarification put into English, myself. I try to keep up on Limbaugh, which I find difficult enough, and I only run across Beck occasionally. I don't even particularly like his beer, being more fond of Samuel Smith's products and some of the Irish stouts. You can see I'm not very familiar with his product at all. I will, however, travel quite a way for a bad joke, if I think I can get there. Getting back is often a different story. Sincerely, Bob Kaven |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
quote: Sauce for the goose? But it isn't really a personal attack is it? Maybe if I had lead with the 'sniffing underpants' thing -- that would be a personal attack. I don't have any proof that he doesn't sniff little boys underpants though. So it's a question. (You see - this is how Glenn Beck works -- like when he didn't believe that FEMA was building concentration camps -- but, he couldn't prove that they weren't.) At any rate -- what I said -- I confess, was bait. Because however far down it was -- it is still above Beck. When he, for instance, attacks Van Jones as a 'self proclaimed Marxist' -- if the same standard were to be applied to Mr. Beck we would call him a self proclaimed drug addict. But at least I acknowledged Beck as a 'dry' drunk and took him at his word that he's changed. But I can't prove he isn't on drugs. And we know he abuses Vicks'. I would also have to say that he's still a Catholic and not a Mormon -- because -- in Beck world -- people don't change. If I applied the same Beck standard to his affiliations --as he applies to ACORN -- I would call him out for being affiliated with a church that knowingly covered up and facilitated the rape of children by priests, or in his current affiliation -- the trafficking of minor girls in polygamist marriage schemes, blood atonement (murder), and necromancy. But, I'm above that. So, I don't. quote: How can this be? Is the perception of what I say more important than what I meant? A point I've been trying to make for years. Progress.... bravo. |
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