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Huan Yi
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Waukegan

0 posted 2005-01-25 10:25 PM

“Al Qaeda’s New Front

An investigation into the threat radical jihadists
pose to Western Europe and its allies.”

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/front/

Just watched the program on PBS.
Interesting.

It appears one of the goals is re-conquest.

“Jihadists” , (Holy Warriors ?); well now that PBS
has used the term I suppose it’s ok.

Aenimal
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since 2002-11-18

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the ass-end of space

1 posted 2005-01-25 11:19 PM

missed this but reading through the site.

re-conquest is a, not the, factor amongst the ultra-militant jihadists. the foremost link between the various jihadists is best explained by Sageman.

"As a result, the international jihadi movement reverted to what it was before Al Qaeda and bin Laden came to the forefront -- a collection of local people with local grievances who share the same ideology."

the grievances, foreign and israeli policy, the ideology resatblishing a 'pure' Islamic state.

Huan Yi
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Waukegan

2 posted 2005-01-26 01:29 PM

“a” factor appears to be enough to justify killing people.
And as one commented Europe is dealing with something
new to their experience, people willing to kill themselves
in order to kill masses of human beings. And from their
perspective the jihadists feel justified. “Tooth for a tooth.”
As another remarked, if two hundred thousand Moslems
could be killed in Bosnia, then it is proper to kill two
hundred thousand Christians, be they French, German etc.,
(it doesn’t matter what Europe or the United States did
to stop it).

“the ideology resatblishing a 'pure' Islamic state”

Again “Islam” translates literally to “submission.”

These people are serious.

P.S.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145393,00.html

There was the killing in the Netherlands.
It can happen again.

Aenimal
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3 posted 2005-01-26 09:44 PM

"These people are serious."

agreed, so how wise is it to provide them with more recruitment fodder? e.g the fiasco in iraq

Huan Yi
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Waukegan

4 posted 2005-01-27 12:09 PM

Raphael,

If it isn’t Iraq, then it’s Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya,
the Philippines, the French prohibition on head scarves
in schools, etc.; there’ll always be found a reason to mask
an intent that would exist regardless.

Aenimal
Member Rara Avis

since 2002-11-18

Posts 7350
the ass-end of space

5 posted 2005-01-27 12:48 PM

"there’ll always be found a reason to mask an intent that would exist regardless"

true, the current administration's agendas are evidence of that

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