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Aurelian
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0 posted 2007-03-22 08:34 PM



All mortal love is but a paltry shade
A pale suggestion of those nectar streams
All earth-joy dims to faint and foolish dreams
Compared - the fairest wonders to Him fade
If onward into heaven’s light we wade
For there beyond the pleasure weak man deems
As worth his soul – a shining host forever teems
All through the city Christ our Lord has made
So onward to that River we shall go
Forgetting all the sorrows left behind
Still marching to those bright ambrosial shores
The light behind the shadow we shall know
As filled with joy above the grasp of mind
We pass beyond those opened golden doors

© Copyright 2007 Joshua R. Tindell - All Rights Reserved
A Romantic Heart
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1 posted 2007-03-23 01:46 AM


J. M. Barrie, the playwright, may have said it best when he wrote, “God gave us memories so that we might have roses in December.”

Aurelian
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2 posted 2007-03-23 09:01 AM


I welcome any and all comments concerning this or any other of my poems - don't hesitate to tell me if you feel I'm just wasting ink and/or cyberspace with my poetry - I'm open to anything.

ChristianSpeaks
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3 posted 2007-03-23 11:56 AM


a few things just by looking for a second. You must add punctuation. We still have to have some sort of sentence structure. Also, it's odd to me to center your font. Why is that done?
MoonShadow
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4 posted 2007-03-23 01:00 PM


I stand corrected. Goodluck.

[This message has been edited by MoonShadow (03-23-2007 11:47 PM).]

Aurelian
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5 posted 2007-03-23 09:17 PM


I did look up the proper structure for a Petrarchan Sonnet, and maybe I missed it, but it seemed everything I read had the abbaabba rhyme scheme for the initial octet. (sonnets.org/basicforms.htm, akawordsmith.com/clwpoems/f11.shtml, forwardpress.co.uk/04_workshop/workshop_09.htm)
I added punctuation, a left alignment, and broke it into stanzas, though. Here's the revised post.

All mortal love is but a paltry shade,
- A pale suggestion of those nectar streams -
All earth-joy dims to faint and foolish dreams,
Compared - the fairest wonders to Him fade.

If onward into heaven’s light we wade.
For there beyond the pleasure weak man deems
As worth his soul – a shining host forever teems,
All through the city Christ our Lord has made.

So onward to that River we shall go
Forgetting all the sorrows left behind -
Still marching to those bright ambrosial shores.

The light behind the shadow we shall know,
As filled with joy above the grasp of mind,
We pass beyond those opened golden doors.

MoonShadow
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Dark side of the Moon.
6 posted 2007-03-23 10:28 PM


I stand corrected.  Good luck.

[This message has been edited by MoonShadow (03-23-2007 11:47 PM).]

Nan
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7 posted 2007-03-23 10:39 PM


You are definitely NOT wasting cyber ink.  This is a lovely sonnet, and I'm overjoyed to see our members posting structured poetry.  The trick, of course, is to make it seem like it was easy to write.. but we know better.

The rhyme scheme of the Petrarchan/Italian sonnet IS abba-abba in the opening octave.  Your poem is fine as it is and it does conform to the standard.  You develop your theme well, and resolve in your sestet.  I also know of no rule that says you can't break your sonnet into stanzas of 4-4-3-3.  I do prefer the stanza breaks, though - It's just easier to read.

I would suggest only one revision.  Check line seven, as you have an extra foot, thereby breaking meter with hexameter rather than pentameter.

Welcome to Passions in Poetry, btw.  I'll be reading more of your work...

Not A Poet
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8 posted 2007-03-23 11:55 PM


Fix line 7 and left adjust it instead of center. I think there is no need to separate the sections as we should know that 14 lines are required. If you feel that you really have to, then you  could leave a blank line after the octet. Personally, I would rather not see the blank as I know where the sestet starts.

Your rhyme scheme is spot on and you at least strongly suggest differing views between the octet and sestet. In short, I would have to rate it a successful and quite enjoyable Petrarchan sonnet. As Nan said, no wast ot cyber ink or mistreated electrons here at all.

Pete

cynicsRus
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9 posted 2007-03-24 12:43 PM


Nan and Pete sum it up well. No need to change anything in the form other than to left-justify, as has been suggested. Punctuation does help.
As Nan has stated, you introduced the theme well in the octave and resolved it in the sestet. This is predominant in a Petrachan Sonnet. Moreover, you are allowed some variance  in the rhyme scheme of the sestet.
Personally however I feel that you shouldn't consider it necessary to divide into stanzas
Overall, well done.

Sid

Aurelian
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10 posted 2007-03-24 08:17 AM


Here's the newest revision, incorporating the  suggested changes.

All mortal love is but a paltry shade,
- A pale suggestion of those nectar streams -
All earth-joy dims to faint and foolish dreams,
Compared - the fairest wonders to Him fade.
If onward into heaven’s light we wade.
For there beyond the pleasure weak man deems
As worth his soul – bright hosts forever teem,
All through the city Christ our Lord has made.
So onward to that River we shall go
Forgetting all the sorrows left behind -
Still marching to those bright ambrosial shores.
The light behind the shadow we shall know,
As filled with joy above the grasp of mind,
We pass beyond those opened golden doors.

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