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gofor42 Member
since 2000-01-23
Posts 143Arkansas |
Okay, I now present the second half of my thought process on this issue. I have come up with my personal answer, which may not gel with everyone else's opinion, but hey--that's what makes life interesting: different opinions. Who created whom? Are we the product of God's mind, Or is He the product of ours? To presuem to know for sure Is pure folly. But to wander through existence Claiming we are better than God (For we would have to be, Having created Him) is greater folly still. How can we, creatures of finite Flesh and blood, know infinite? How can fallable, sinning mortals Create perfection and absolute goodness? Were the ideas of perfection and Infinite not given to us by one who is, We could not know them. We could not know Him. But we do know them, Even if we don't always live up to them. And for these reasons, I know who created whom, And that I'm just the clay ready to be shaped. "If you can't annoy somebody, there's little point in writing." --Kingsley Amis |
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kcsgrandma Senior Member
since 2000-09-24
Posts 1522Presque Isle, ME |
Well, gofor42, your honest questions seem to have led you to a logical conclusion. That philosophy class couldn't have been all bad.  It's my belief that God always does lead an honest seeker of truth to find Him, but as my brother once pointed out, we all see Him from different places. He is so great, so infinite, that none of us can see all of Him. Just because we see different aspects does not invalidate one view or another. I realize not everyone agrees with me, but then, I've had a philosophy class, too. To love another person is to see the face of God. - Les Miserables Marilyn |
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gofor42 Member
since 2000-01-23
Posts 143Arkansas |
I agree with your interpretation--none of us are infinite, and therefore we can't encompass within our minds the whole idea of God. We can get little bits and pieces, but not the whole picture...and maybe we shouldn't be able to get the whole picture. That would ruin the whole mystery of life. "If you can't annoy somebody, there's little point in writing." --Kingsley Amis |
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Denise
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-08-22
Posts 22648 |
'Just the clay ready to be shaped'. Indeed we are. Well written! Denise |
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gofor42 Member
since 2000-01-23
Posts 143Arkansas |
Thank you...may we be shaped in a way that is pleasing to God. "If you can't annoy somebody, there's little point in writing." --Kingsley Amis |
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Stephanos
since 2000-07-31
Posts 3618Statesboro, GA, USA |
gofor42, I just wanted to say that I am glad you have come to the conclusion that God made us and not the other way around, for this is right. I guess the reason so strong of a reaction came to your previous poem was many were concerned about which side of the question you would perhaps be pulled. Because more than a matter of philosophical speculation to some, the idea that God is totally man-made is really believed and taught, and militantly PUSHED in many atheistic circles. In fact you are taunted as ignorant if you choose to believe in a transcendent, independent and self defining God (such as is presented to us in the bible and in nature). I just encourage you to hold tightly to these convictions even when clouds of doubt may come... because the truth is the truth ... is the truth. One more thing I will add in agreement with you. You are right that we can never know the infinity of God, because God is just that... infinite, there is no end to his depth and possession of resources. In fact resources may be a poor choice of words since God is the infinite SOURCE and needs no RE-sources. But while it may require infinite beings to know God quantitatively, it does not require infinite beings to know him qualitatively. That is to say that there are things of God we can know beyond any doubt, because he has revealed them. And we don't have to be gods ourselves to be sure. "The Secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the revealed things belong to us and to our children forever, to observe all the words of this law." Deuteronomy 29:29 We may not know everything there is to know about God, but we can know the mystery of salvation through the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ, (and much much more as the ages will unfold to our eyes). Thanks for your thoughtful expression. Continue on the road of truth seeking, it is a good way to travel. And I recommend the bible as a rich source of spiritual truth for any seeker. your friend, SDJ. [This message has been edited by Stephanos (edited 10-30-2000).] |
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gofor42 Member
since 2000-01-23
Posts 143Arkansas |
Exactly--we cannot by ourselves know of the perfection and the infinity. Without the intervention and the divine inspiration of God, we could not know Him at all. But, thankfully, He was gracious enough to allow us to glimpse just a small piece of His glory. And we are better for it. The road of faith is not so much a destination as an endless journey--we forever grow and learn more about ourselves, those around us, and He who created us. May it always be so. "If you can't annoy somebody, there's little point in writing." --Kingsley Amis |
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