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0 posted 2009-03-31 09:54 PM


Ok, so much for the easy introduction to triplets, or tercets. Now let's get to the good stuff...the ever-popular and often hated terza rima!

The terza rima is an undetermined (up to you) series of triplets with a rhyme scheme of 1-2-1, 2-3-2, 3-4-3, etc. In other words, the first and third lines of each stanza must rhyme with the second line of the preceding stanza. The poem ends with a couplet (two lines) which rhyme with the center line of the preceding tercet. I've seen nothing to indicate that the lines must consist of ten syllables, although the most famous ones are, such as Shelley's Ode To The West Wind....and don't forget the meter.

Amaze me.....



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1 posted 2009-04-01 03:00 AM


Mercy! I'm only half-way through the other exercise  

Meter?  Any meter?

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2 posted 2009-04-01 07:59 AM


An alchemists' ingredients reveal
Beliefs outside the realm of proven fact
Regardless of the truths they would conceal

All movements of magicians must be tracked
Considering their skill to misdirect
And thus maintain illusion through their act

Display more magic than one would expect
As much as you possess in what you write
Beguile the reader that they'll not suspect

Right out there in the open, in plain sight
A bit of magic's been performed just right

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3 posted 2009-04-01 10:36 AM


Excuse if something doesn't make sense English is my second language

The warrior

The mist is settling
and the warrior appears
In his presence everybody is fiddling

For they are trying to hide their fears
when he went nobody believed he'll be back
but as he came back no one called hi dear

His quest has come to an end, no longer does he lack
the power of self control
Now he has respect and all he lost was a sack
    
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4 posted 2009-04-01 12:40 PM


any meter, moonbeam, as long as it's consistent. consistency is everything......

poetman...I know the challenges of trying to write in a second language (especially poetry!) and you have done a very admirable job here.

But.....

Remeber that a terza rima ends with a couplet of two rhyming lines.

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5 posted 2009-04-01 10:43 PM


Dr. Moose...

A clown will do his best to make one smile
With greasepaint lips beneath a funny nose
He plays the fool with expertise and style.

The smile behind the greasepaint no one knows.
The mind behind the mindless acts portrayed
Is deft enough to fool both friends and foes.

We laugh at all the silly words displayed
And never sense the flavor of derision
Nor feel the painless insert of the blade.

He earns applause for such a clever mission.
Our world is brighter thanks to our magician.

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6 posted 2009-04-02 07:07 AM


Balladeer,
Thank you oh master of melodious missives, and a belated happy April fools' to you.
Doc

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7 posted 2009-04-02 07:42 AM


Wow, I have to admire people who can do this sort of thing so fast.  Good work Dr Moose
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8 posted 2009-04-02 08:09 AM


Thank you moonbeam, and once again, welcome to the workshop.
Doc

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9 posted 2009-04-02 09:10 AM


Sorry Dr Moose I didn't say thanks for the welcome before - "thanks for the welcome"
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10 posted 2009-04-05 11:47 PM


Hey 'Deer,

I'll try to get this one in this week.  

A

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11 posted 2009-04-08 06:09 AM


Oundle

I think of you curled in a coil of the Nene,
your buttery limestone as soft as the mist
which lifts winter mornings from worldly routine

to something ethereal, spire blessed and kissed
by centuries of hands that with mallet and maul
have carved out a heart that will try to resist

the clogging ubiquitous march of the mall
through markets and gardens, allotments and lives
untouched until now by a frost that will spall

the mortar of life until nothing survives
of that which was England and Englishman's ways,
except for this churchyard, the headstones like hives,

a-buzz with the protest from Englishman's graves,
which echoes the stones of the cool empty naves.

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12 posted 2009-04-08 02:00 PM


moonbeam,
An impressive write, good story and imagery, but I'm a little confused as to the meter. It comes across as almost, but not quite anapestic. Can you enlighten me as to what it is?
Doc

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13 posted 2009-04-08 04:10 PM


Thanks Doc   .  Principally dactylic with variations of an unstressed syllable at the start of line and a stressed at the end - I think Betjeman did something similar on occasion.  Somebody mentioned 11 syllable lines in the other thread so I thought I'd have a shot at concocting my own.

M

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14 posted 2009-04-08 05:07 PM


M,
Thanks for clearing that up. I knew the meter was there just from the reading, but couldn't put my finger on it. Interesting variation.
Doc

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15 posted 2009-04-08 05:10 PM


moonbeam, your dactylic with the unstressed leading syllable is excellent and exact...with the exception of by centuries of hands (Of course, if I can make my mouth say centuries as a two-syllable word, it works).

As far as the poem itself, I think it's really brilliant. I like to see poems which describe things in a way no one else has thought of. I think you do that here very well...

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16 posted 2009-04-08 05:28 PM


Yw Doc

You are very kind as usual Mike.  Over here - well at least my specific neck of the woods - "centuries" is always "CENT tris" (with the "i" as in "lick").  I spose you do it "CEN  tur is"?  

Humm I wonder how Grinch pronounces it.

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17 posted 2009-04-08 05:50 PM


yep...here it's CEN-tu-rees or can even be CEN-tu-REES. It's interesting how pronounciations differ from country to country, and even area to area. (Still remembering the tiff with Nan over whether FIELD is one syllable or two...she was wrong, of course )
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18 posted 2009-04-08 10:06 PM


I was right.  Mike was wrong...
And just because he's being a brat, I'll cheat with a repost!

Symbiosis

True friendship knows its own intrinsic bound,
The pinnacle a covenant unfound.

Perchance cerebral spirits meet,
Fulfilling thoughts and dreams in kind
To render yearning minds replete.

Thence wending on with arms in bind,
Mere touch supplanting idle prate ~
No greater trust than hands entwined.

Enamored passions proffer sate
As ardent raptured hearts unite
In sumptuous repast of fate.

With surety of love in sight,
Two souls shall only then enjoin
In confluence of shared delight.

That perfect niche, a bond without excess
Yields ever symbiotic synthesis.




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19 posted 2009-04-08 10:53 PM


hehe....knew I could get you to come out of the darkness...;


How about it, folks? YIELD...one syllable or two?

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20 posted 2009-04-09 07:02 AM


I'd have to say either/or, depending on the context of the meter that has been established.
Doc

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21 posted 2009-04-09 07:10 AM


  According to a syllable counter online, "Field" is only one syllable. That is the way I counted it before I found that online syllable counter, too.
  
Hey Nan, I sure have been missing you. Where have you been hiding at?

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22 posted 2009-04-09 11:46 AM


LOL - Mike, I said it was one syllable, right?

Doc - thanks for stopping by my Morsels blog..

Hi Sue - at the moment, I'm in Michigan, being relentlessly harassed by Ron.  He even beat soundly trounced me at Scrabble..




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23 posted 2009-04-09 10:32 PM


An online syllable counter???? You mean, like the online translators where you type in Have a Nice Day in english and it comes out I Blow my Nose in Public in French???

Moose gave the perfect answer...

Don't let Ron beat you too bad, Nanners!

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24 posted 2009-04-10 10:42 AM


Oh no, Nan! Don't let him beat you. Maybe those words he is coming up with aren't even words. Maybe Ron is making up some NEW words. Ya think? Did you look in the dictionary to make sure it is indeed a word? Ron, don't be cheatin', now.
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25 posted 2009-04-10 10:34 PM


Please note.. My post above was subjectively edited by someone other than myself.  He also neglects to mention the previous game where he was categorically expunged...
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26 posted 2009-04-10 11:42 PM


Well, that explains why I couldn't find that word in the dictionary. Uh, does this mean that someone is in deep trouble, Miss Nan?
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27 posted 2009-04-13 03:11 AM


Canines with Artistic Desires

Doggone windows hide in winter dark;
faded nose smears making dirty glass.
Canines, eager, draw artistic marks,

showing grubby prints when winters pass.  
Doggy pictures lit in springtime sun
whisper,  “Clean the panes and draw the sash!”

Spraying Windex, watching smears undone,
leads to dripping streams that wash the grime,
offering view of vistas never won

Windows gleaming, sparkling, looking fine -
artsy dogs painting, nosing doggy slime.

---

Alison


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28 posted 2009-04-14 01:09 PM


G'morning.  I'm enjoying reading this page... Some marvelous poetry here, peoples!!! andI'm learning, too.     

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29 posted 2009-04-17 07:40 AM


Alison,
Cute picture, delivered with style.
Doc

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30 posted 2009-04-17 06:30 PM


Alison, you are a sweetheart! The poem was right on technically and the subject matter amazing. You came up with a topic so unique it would not even be considered by others and you made a terrific poem out of it. THAT is what is called being a poet!
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Balladeer & Doc,

Thank you both.  I kind of tucked this one in here quietly as I was totally insecure about it.  Thank you for continuing to be supportive, for teaching me, and just for bolstering me up when I want to bury my words in the back yard.

xoxoxoxo
Alison

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32 posted 2009-04-18 07:10 AM


I hope I'm not too late to join the fun. Here's a rework of an older piece (originally in blank verse).


I shall go home now, where resentment
Has simmered long, where ancient rage
Ferments, where boiling discontentment

And toxic dudgeons brewed an age,
A slum where live some drunk curmudgeons
Intoxicated in their cage.

They wait, fomenting ancient dudgeons
In self-made dungeons in their soul
And dream of using as fresh gudgeons

Some pieces of my flesh, my jowl
To fish blood-thirsty red piranhas
And leave my carcass on a shoal.

In hope it would attract iguanas
They’d leave me there, and find a bar
To drink and hire some young chicanas.

Of course this all seems too bizzare;
They sure will let me eat a gyro,
Perhaps I’ve written mere canard.

.......................

I shall go home now, my ground zero
Where all my faults remain enshrined
Where I shall never be a hero,

Where to my success all were blind.
But now, that I be dregs or scum
To them it is now froth. Resigned,

I’ll go and meet my dad and mum
Who’ve known what I’d look like when I
Would bald and lose my teeth, a bum

Worn by decay. For when I die
(As tumors in my throat foretell)
They’ll be the only ones who’ll cry.

I shall go home so I can tell
Them I’ll still love them when in hell.


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33 posted 2009-04-18 11:56 PM


Marc, I'd say you've given a new definition to the word "unique". You have some great lines and incredible rhymes in this one, plus, id you were to recite it out loud, it wouldn't sound like a structured rhyme poem at all. An amazing piece of work, sir
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34 posted 2009-04-19 02:44 PM


Balladeer, thanks for the nice comments. Though the rhymes and meter seem fine, I'm still not satisfied with it. I've reworked it today, now in iambic pentameter and rhyming aab ccb dde ffe etc. I wanted to post it in CA, but that forum seems to be gone, can't find it...

Have a marvelous day!

Mark

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35 posted 2010-09-27 04:39 PM


You portray the illusion you're flawless
As you try very hard to mislead me.
I have standards for men, I'm not lawless.

So-called "facts" that you tell me are stories.
They've been derived from your dishonest mind.
I require a man with TRUE glories.

Why don't you speak what is true and unwind,
Before my tolerance for you is gone.
My advice- wise up or get left behind.

*Amber

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36 posted 2010-09-27 05:01 PM


Oops! I forgot there has to be a couplet at the end:

You portray the illusion you're flawless
As you try very hard to mislead me.
I have standards for men, I'm not lawless.

So-called "facts" that you tell me are stories.
They've been derived from your dishonest mind.
I require a man with TRUE glories.

Why don't you speak what is true and unwind
Before my tolerance for you is gone.
My advice- wise up or get left behind.

This is your one and only second chance
To show a crucially honest romance.

*Amber

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37 posted 2010-09-27 07:05 PM


A little work to do here, Amber.

stories and glories do not rhyme with "me"

The couplet must rhyme with the preceding middle line of the tercet.

There must be a consistent meter.

I'm afraid you fall short in each of these points. I do applaud the attempt, though. Many people do not even mess with this form - it can be tricky. You have a beginning. Now let's see what you can do to whip it into shape

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