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serenity blaze
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0 posted 2004-02-08 02:10 PM


Can someone help me to learn how to critique?

I would really like to participate in C/A.

Just some guidelines, maybe?

Huh? Please?

Pete? LP? Nan?

ANYBODY????

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1 posted 2004-02-08 02:19 PM


Well, here are a few basic guidelines I try to follow.

1. Try to understand what the poet intends before critiquing how they did it.  If you can see what they were trying to do, then and only then are you in any position to judge how they happened to go about doing it.  Demonstrate for the poet that you've come to some understanding of the poem's meaning, what the poet was trying to do with their techniques, how they were used.  They will likely appreciate your taking the time to understand, and be more open to receiving criticism.

2. Mention the things you like at least as often as things you dislike.  This has two purposes.  First, when we're critiquing someone we often forget to mention that there are things we like about a poem and if we don't mention them, then the poet might not be aware of how and why a certain technique was effective in one place and not the other.  Secondly, if they are willing to accept your compliments (most people usually are), they'll be more open to your negative critiques.

3. Use examples, preferably from within the poem, to demonstrate how things can be done right.  If they did it right in one place and wrong in another, show how that was.

Although I'm more of a form critic than anything, so these guidelines don't account for every critique style.  If you feel like your reply is still a bit too harsh, then comment on the subject matter somehow, and not their choice of subject matter... but if it's about sunsets, maybe say something like "I love sunsets too," or something.  See what I mean?

Hoping I'm helpful but never sure,
Brian


P.S.  You now owe me an ode!

http://www.livejournal.com/~new_formalism

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2 posted 2004-02-08 06:06 PM


Karen...get ye into CA!  You can only grow!

Bri..good points!

Sun...listen to Bri, and do as Karen!

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3 posted 2004-02-08 07:51 PM


Brian's advice is exceptionally sound but, for the most part anyway, above the heads of most critics. Karen, just come on in and read a few. With your talent, it won't take long for you to figure out your own style of critique.

Don't feel like every one has to be a jewel. Sometimes all you can really say is you liked it or you did not. Hopefully, you can at least give some reason why you came to that conclusion.

We have a diverse talent at criticism as we have a poetry. All are welcome as long as they try to give an honest opinion.

serenity blaze
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4 posted 2004-02-08 09:46 PM


Thanks much LP--and I think I'll read a bit quietly for awhile.

and thanks for the welcome, Pete. And it's good to know the sun is shining there too.


Essorant
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5 posted 2004-02-08 11:43 PM


Here are some pages for you:

    
     Why critique? Or get critiqued?       An Essay on Criticism        On Constructive Critiquing


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                                              Hope those are helpful    
                                                                   

[This message has been edited by Essorant (02-09-2004 02:29 AM).]

Essorant
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6 posted 2004-02-08 11:51 PM


How come the frame doesn't work
Nan
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7 posted 2004-02-09 07:35 AM


Thanks very much, Essorant - I think I'll do some reading too...
Dr.Moose1
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8 posted 2004-02-10 06:04 PM


serenity,
I'll see your raise, and bump you a metaphor.
Last time I went to analysis I ended up in the "stute", not that I'm saying either one is a bad place to go, just that I don't know what I'm saying. With this in mind, or not, as may be the case ( or who might be the "case" ) be well, and good luck in your critiquing.
Doc

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