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Not A Poet
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0 posted 2002-08-06 11:19 AM


I have been working on this off and on for a while. I think I like it but it seems too prosey. I'm posting early (for me anyway) in hopes of getting some help to make it read more like a poem. So thanks in advance for any advice any of you wonderful people can give.


A Silent Moment

I watched you make your way around the room
in conversations with so many others,
your face a little too red,
right eye and a corner of your mouth
drooping ever so slightly,
while making love to your martini.
No my Dear, you were not at your best
and you had stayed away for so long
that I found myself almost thinking,
Yes, she truly is a beautiful woman
but maybe not the goddess I always thought.
Was it just enchantment all along?

I found no pleasure in that revelation,
only a small sense of satisfaction
that I might finally be slipping
free of your spell.

Then I thought I saw that look
as you moved in my direction
and I felt my heart pounding
as I hoped you might just
stop to say hello.
I waited … breathless.
But you passed by -
not coming to me -
thoughts and interests
on something,
or someone else.
I couldn't look.

Then, as if you heard my wish
there you were,
draped over my shoulder
your cheek brushing mine,
your breasts against my back,
whispering in my ear.
I savor the magic of that touch,
the wet of your breath on my neck and
the sultry echo of your voice.

You said "I've missed you",
but I was unable to speak,
thoughts refused to form into words.
It was one of those intensely silent moments
where everything seems to move in slow motion …
You know the kind I mean.

It was at that moment I think I realized
you truly are that goddess I always adored.

Then, as I relished your softness
pressing firmly against me,
the play of your hand on my arm
and the sweet smell of your perfume,
with an unexpected quick kiss,
you were gone as suddenly as you had come
and I never really said anything
nor understood anything you said.

And there was so much I wanted to say.
I wanted to feel you touching me,
I wanted to return the kiss,
I wanted to hold you,
but it was too late.
You were gone
once again.

That's what I mean.


© Copyright 2002 Pete Rawlings - All Rights Reserved
Bridget Shenachie
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1 posted 2002-08-06 11:32 PM


Hi N.A.P.!

I really like this. I think that it is well-written as is.  Relationship frustration/confusion is a great subject for free verse.

Shenachie

Not A Poet
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2 posted 2002-08-09 09:35 AM


Thanks Bridget, but I know it is flawed and I guess I'm just too close to it to recognize the problems.

Pete

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3 posted 2002-08-09 03:07 PM


NotAPoet~
Hi there ... I like the thoughts in this ... but I do feel what you describe as being 'just too close' to it ...

You know I don't do 'open' critique ... but I have copied it and taken it to my study ... I'll e-mail you if and when I 'figure' out my take on it~ Okay ?
*Hugs*
~*Marge*~

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4 posted 2002-08-09 03:57 PM


Thanks Marge, I will appreciate any advice you can give.

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5 posted 2002-08-09 06:48 PM


Not A Poet~

this is really good...a little wordy, but you speak of a love or a lover in the glory it should be spoken in, does that make sense??  for affect, and I am in no way perfect to really say this, but try cutting some of the words down, to give this piece power..leave room for the reader to imagen and think of the next move ..thank you for sharing this....I look forward to more....


Lauren~


The ocean looks like a thousand diamonds strewn across a blue blanket
I lean against the wind pretend I am weightless and in this moment I am happy

[This message has been edited by Greeneyes (08-09-2002 06:49 PM).]

jbouder
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6 posted 2002-08-10 10:16 PM


Hey Pete:

If you have Drury's book, take a look at what he has to say about tension in free-verse.  I have little doubt of the intensity of the feelings this mysterious goddess aroused in you, my friend.  But it is easier for me to identify with your experiences if you describe some of the feelings they evoke rather than tell me what they've evoked in you.  

For example, when she walked up from behind you, the words, "These feelings are intense" probably didn't cross your mind (although you ARE and accountant ... never could quite figure out that bunch). Seriously, the emotions were real and, in your mind, they are inexorably tied to that moment.

So why not latch onto something else that is part of that moment?  Something specific ... and afix it to your goddess.

Just a few suggestions.  Hope you finally snare that goddess one day, Pete.  Have you tried showing her one of your poems?

Jim

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7 posted 2002-08-11 12:53 PM


Hey Pete...it's not uncommon for free verse to resemble prose - I do it a lot actually - the trick is balance...a certain amount of poetical insertion versus a lack of poetic device - I have many failed attempts lol...

I like this a lot, over all, I think you just might need to find a bit of that balance...

My few suggestions - sometimes when you're trying a new style it's good to completely maraud what you first come up with

I suggest firstly that you take this and change the past tense completely for the present..

ie:

I watch you make your way around the room
in conversations with so many others,
your face a little too red,
right eye and a corner of your mouth
drooping ever so slightly,
while making love to your martini.
No my Dear, you are not at your best
and you have stayed away for so long
that I find myself almost thinking,

etc

and see how that works for the poem as a whole, see if you like it.

Then I think you may need to do a bit of word-reduction, perhaps a little less telling, and mould it a little with more poetic language to find that balance.

I'm just going to use one verse for an example:

You said "I've missed you",
but I was unable to speak,
thoughts refused to form into words.
It was one of those intensely silent moments
where everything seems to move in slow motion …
You know the kind I mean.

You could wipe the last line entirely, and possibly the second. You could remove the 'you said' and just start off with 'I miss you' - and indicate who the speaker is through an image perhaps. In this verse is a perfect example of what makes the poem seem a little too prosey. This line:

'It was one of those intensely silent moments
where everything seems to move in slow motion …

this could easily be reshaped...

I don't want to suggest how because that's totally up to you lol...

The last line is a killer - that works exceptionally well I think...

this poem is full of potential...will you let me know how it goes?

K

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8 posted 2002-08-11 11:26 AM


Hey Pete!  

I'm going to attack the first stanza, and I don't know how to critique unless I simply take your words and rewrite, so don't consider this a rewrite, consider it my suggestions on your words....

A Silent Moment

I watched you
make your way around the room
conversing with so many others,
your face brilliant in red,
right eye drooping to meet the
corner of your mouth,
as you
made love to your martini.

No, Dear, your best was not around,
that part of you had stayed away
so long, so long that
I found myself almost thinking,

Yes,
truly, she is a beautiful woman
but maybe,
maybe not the goddess I always thought.
Was it enchantment
all along?

~*~

purely suggestions...

Sudhir Iyer
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9 posted 2002-08-12 06:04 AM


Pete, the subject here is very good... and your words are great... and as for advices... you can do well to listen to the best here...

regards,
sudhir

Not A Poet
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10 posted 2002-08-13 03:42 PM


Thanks much to all of you guys. I'll go back to the board and work on it some more even though I'm not sure I understand a whole lot of what you have said. Maybe some of it will soak in though.

And Jim, I have to confess that there really isn't a goddess. Sorry.

Thanks,
Pete

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11 posted 2002-08-13 04:05 PM


OhPete~
Yes, there is a goddess ...
she's in your poetic thoughts ...
you just haven't 'touched' the all of her yet~

They're EVERYWHERE~
*Hugs*
~*ThatDangedLilCherokeeWoman*~

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Madame Chipmunk
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12 posted 2002-08-16 01:38 AM


Not A Poet
I am not good at critiquing...
but I do love this poem...
the way it portrays the lack of relationship between 2 people, from the point of view of the one who would like it to be a relationship...
Sorry, but I cannot find your flaw...
and I really enjoyed your poem.
~ chipmunk hugs

Lyra

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Munda
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13 posted 2002-08-16 05:02 PM


Pete - I've said it before, free verse is a form of poetry I find almost impossible to write, so therefore I feel I cannot truly comment on your piece, except that I like the story very much.
Nan
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14 posted 2002-08-27 09:30 AM


How does one 'critique' a poetic format that has 'no rules'?... This has always been a problem for me.. always will, I expect..

This piece does, in fact, resemble prose - but by nature, it's a rambling stream directed at your 'goddess.'  In that context, it's totally acceptable, isn't it?

You surely paint some vivid pictures of your narrator's thoughts and feelings... I particularly like your final stanza.. The 'too late now' part.

As always, your work shines..

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