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Nan
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Nan
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1 posted 1999-10-19 08:36 PM


Ron hadn't had time to approve some of you, so I set up your threads for you - He's fixed it for you now, but says he deserves a spanking..... We'll save that for later.. Meanwhile here's Munda's post..


I'm not sure what to do next, so I figured I might as well submit my first attempt.
I'm not sure if this is what you had in mind and I'm sort of stuck on a couple of
lines.
Neither am I sure if everything is correct English. Please help ! It seems everybody
is asleep, or working when I am online. : )

Munda : )

Dutch Halloween

A1 St. Maarten is our Halloween !
B1 11th next month kids come by
A2 ‘round scolding for all to be seen
B2 where lives one refusing to buy

B1 11th next month kids come by
C1 with sack and the most awfull face
B2 where lives one refusing to buy
C2 with gruesome and frightening blaze

C1 with sack and the most awfull face
D1 they haunt you down feeling your fears
C2 with gruesome and frightening blaze
D2 so you better cover your ears

D1 they haunt you down feeling your fears
E1 hand over all the candy you have
D2 if not, better cover your ears
E2 they sing you a song ‘til you’re deaf

E1 hand over all the candy you have
F1 ‘cause when you refuse this , "Oh my !"
E2 they sing you a song til you;re deaf
F2 Scrooge’s alive ! Devils come out and cry !

F1 ‘cause when you refuse this; "Oh my !"
A2 ‘round scolding for all to be seen
F2 Scrooge’s alive ! Devils come out and cry !
A1 St Maarten is our Halloween : )

Nan
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2 posted 1999-10-20 07:36 AM


I'm very grateful that I don't have to try to write poetry in Dutch (or any other language)...NOT!!

Unfortunately, I can only help you in English - my foreign language skills are buried somewhere in the dark depths of my occipital... . So, in English - Here's what I see:

You've developed your theme throughout - and that's good. Your repetitions are in order, and that's good. Your meter comes closest to iambic tetrameter (four feet per line of -/-/-/-/ syllable stress pattern).
I'll make my suggestions on that basis - including syntax for appropriate English grammar, of course...

Dutch Halloween
st-MAAR/ten-IS/our-HALL/o-WEEN
e-LEV/enth-NEXT/month-KIDS/come-BY
all-SCOLD/ing-'ROUND/they-SHALL/be-SEEN
dare-NOT/a-SOUL/re-FUSE/to-BUY

e-LEV/enth-NEXT/month-KIDS/come-BY
with-SACK/and-TRU/ly-AW/ful-FACE
dare-NOT/a-SOUL/re-FUSE/to-BUY
with-FRIGHT/en-ING/and-grue/some-BLAZE

with-SACK/and-TRU/ly-AW/ful-FACE
they-HAUNT/you-DOWN/feel-ING/your-FEARS
with-FRIGHT/en-ING/and-grue/some-BLAZE
it's-BEST/that-YOU/cov-ER/your-EARS

they-HAUNT/you-DOWN/feel-ING/your-FEARS
hand-O/ver-ALL/the-TREATS/you-HAVE
if-NOT/you'd-BEST/cov-ER/your-EARS
they'll-SING/to-YOU/un-TIL/you’re-DEAF

hand-O/ver-ALL/the-TREATS/you-HAVE
‘cause-IF/you-DARE/re-FUSE/Oh-MY
they'll-SING/to-YOU/un-TIL/you’re-DEAF
scrooge-IS/a-LIVE/De-VILS/will-CRY

‘cause-IF/you-DARE/re-FUSE/Oh-MY
all-SCOLD/ing-'ROUND/they-SHALL/be-SEEN
scrooge-IS/a-LIVE/De-VILS/will-CRY
st-MAAR/ten-IS/our-HALL/o-WEEN

What an interesting venture to interpret across languages - and equally a pleasure - I hope that my interpretation hasn't lost any of your intent. It does fit in proper meter this way - I wonder about the Dutch inference of "deaf" in this context? If you need more assistance - please - come back for more...

Munda
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3 posted 1999-10-20 01:18 PM


LOL, yes Nan, I do need more help. This is not the version I sent you in e-mail. : ) Gosh, you cracked me up with this windmill. Good thing you didn't have anything from Amsterdam. ; )

Munda : )

Munda
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4 posted 1999-10-20 07:23 PM


Dutch Halloween

St. Maarten is our Halloween
11th next month kids come by
all scolding round they shall be seen
dare not a sould refuse to buy

11th next month kids come by
for sweets with truly awful face
dare not a soul refuse to buy
with loud noise and determined pace

for sweets with truly awful face
they haunt you down feeding your fears
with loud noise and determined pace
it’s best that you cover your ears

they haunt you down feeding your fears
hand over all the treats you have
it’s best that you cover your ears
they’ll sing to you until you’re deaf

hand over all the treats you have
‘cause when you dare refuse "Oh my"
they’ll sing to you until you’re deaf
Skinflint ! Devils come out and cry!

‘cause when you dare refuse "Oh my"
all scolding ‘round they will be seen
Skinflint ! Devils come out and cry !
St. Maarten is our Halloween.

Ok, this is what I did. I looked at your suggestions, which are all much better than what I could come up with : ), looked at my second version and made changes. I almost copied it as you wrote it Nan, but then it wouldn't be mine anymore, so I just stole the most needed parts. LOL
So, even though this version is not as good as Nan's, what you think ? ; )

Nan
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5 posted 1999-10-21 06:48 AM


I like this, Munda - I love to hear about different cultures' festive days. We should do more of this sort of thing... You've put a lot of work into this - Hang around for more - We've got lots of good stuff coming up...
hoot_owl_rn
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6 posted 1999-10-21 09:58 AM


Munda, this has sure progressed from the firt time I laid eyes on it, welcome to the class.
Munda
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7 posted 1999-10-23 07:29 AM


Nan....Hoot......somebody, please help ! What am I supposed to do next ?
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