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Titia Geertman
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0 posted 2001-06-04 08:19 PM


It's an oldie, but just for a try-out


Shall I be thinking different
when one day I would be you
Or will I keep by changing
some of my own thoughts too

That's what my mind keeps busy
when sometimes I dream away
But never will I know for sure
what I will really think that day


A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess...
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Sunshine
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1 posted 2001-06-04 09:46 PM


Titia, I don't get into CA much, but I do edit my brains out at work, so I would give this a try:

*~*

Shall I be thinking different
when one day I would be you
Or will I keep by changing
some of my own thoughts too

That's when my mind keeps busy
as sometimes I dream away
But never will I know for sure
what I will really thought that day

*~*

as for the message?  Believe it or not, I understand!

Titia Geertman
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2 posted 2001-06-05 05:02 PM


Dear Sunshine, thanks for replying.

Below is your sugestion.

That's when my mind keeps busy
as sometimes I dream away
But never will I know for sure
what I will really thought that day

But (and do forgive me if my English isn't always right): if I say "That's when my mind keeps busy; as sometimes I dream away" it implies time and that's not what I meant.

I meant that when I dream away sometimes, those thoughts (of how I would think if I was to change in someone else) pop into my head. So the words "That's what..." is correct I think because 'what' is referring to the lines above. It's what I think about when I dream away.

And because it will never happen that I change into another person, I will never know how I will think that day.

I wrote this poem after a conversation with a person who said the most awfull things. And that's why the thought came to me if I would think and speak in the same way as that person did if I was to change into him. I could hardly bear the thought, couln't imagine that I would say the same awfull things, so I hoped I would keep some of my own thouhgts too.

Nothing serious, just a thought. HOpe my explination makes sense.

See you, Titia

A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess...
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KirstyOHara
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3 posted 2001-06-07 03:12 AM


Hi there,

Well I feel that I am loosing touch with poetry now as I have read almost everypost on here today and found that no one writes like I do anymore. I guess that is a good thing though as that could get pretty boring.

I just thought that I would let you know that I did enjoy the poem. I dont get into the CA much so I will just say that is was great.

Have a nice day

Titia Geertman
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4 posted 2001-06-07 06:58 PM


Thank you so much for stopping by.
I sure would want to read one of your poems, for every poet write with a different pen, that's the interesting part of roaming through Passions.

Titia

A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess...
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5 posted 2001-06-08 11:41 AM


OK, Titia.  First I want to express my admiration for you.  I have trouble with English, let alone another language.

First, let's talk about meter.  Your line counts are 8776 7788. Your rhyme is in the second and fourth lines.

Now look at this:

Shall I be thinking different when one day I would be you
Or will I keep by changing some of my own thoughts too

That's what my mind keeps busy when sometimes I dream away
But never will I know for sure what I will really think that day


Now you have two couplets.  Let's see what we can do with the meter:

shall I think differently
when one day I would be you
Or will I keep by changing
many of my own thoughts too

That's what my busy mind keeps
when sometimes I dream away
I will never know for sure
what I will think 'til that day

Now you have line counts of 7777 7777
or, if you want rhyming couplets, four lines with 14 counts each:

shall I think differently when one day I would be you
Or will I keep by changing many of my own thoughts too

That's what my busy mind keeps when sometimes I dream away
I will never know for sure what I will think 'til that day

If I have confused you, I'm sorry.  I do want you to know that there are NO RULES to what you like in poetry.  If it speaks to you, go for it!

Brad
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6 posted 2001-06-10 05:45 PM


I like the idea of the poem (identity is always fun to play with) but I felt that you were writing around the topic rather than discussing what you actually thought or what you might think if you were another person. If you add some of the actual thoughts, I think this would be a lot more interesting.

The best line has to be:

"That's what my mind keeps busy"

as opposed to

That's why my mind keeps busy (passive)

or

That's when my mind keeps busy (passive)


It fits the theme of the poem and creates and active feel to the whole line. The mind keeps what busy? The thoughts and speculations of the first stanza but you separate the speaker from 'the mind' thereby creating, in a sense, two minds -- the mind that keeps busy those thoughts and the mind that can see that mind doing that.

Great!

Brad

Titia Geertman
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7 posted 2001-06-10 07:11 PM


Thank you all so much for your answers.

Titia

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