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Poertree
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0 posted 2000-02-08 03:38 PM


(Sestina from the workshop)


"I want to be with you when you Mate"
I turn, gaze up and whisper, "or die
by your side".
"I want to be near you when you flash your rank
And blaze your royalty across the board".
Pale and still she rakes the narrow file,

Scans the black horizon, the ordered files
and turns toward her husband King, her mate.
Listless bored,
He, careless, flips his sceptre, casts the die,
Then cowardly subsides behind the rank,
A foppish shadow by her shining side.

I craved the honour of the lead, and sighed
when she sang forth the Knight with honed, filed
sword, and rank
above my own.  He eyed his black foe mate
and lightly sprang a double leap to die,
or not, within the tight square killing board.

Cutting as a pike through flesh her gaze bored
to the flank where, with castellated head and side
of midnight dye,
the ghastly Rook slid up the open file.
"Beware the Gruenfeld Gambit; ware the Mate,"
a warning hiss behind me in the rank.

And so with power she burst between our ranks,
And with the Bishop struck across the board.
(A pious mate,
Ever caught between the victory for our side
and a bloody blot in his celestial file).
Black and white and red, they move and fight and die.

The quiet endgame falls on crimson dye,
We stalk the charnel field and breathe the rank
and gory files.
Almost alone, she shields me up the board
against the waxing threat close at our side
from her black sister.  Interposed, she mates

with death, and dies, Queenly, upon the board.
A final rank I leap, the furthest side
And crowned, reborn, the file laid bare, I Mate.



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jenni
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1 posted 2000-02-09 10:51 AM


philip--

this is quite a clever piece!  i don't know nuthin' about chess except the horse piece is cool, but you've done a great job here bringing the game to life.

the first line is a little... interesting, lol... until i figured out (in line 2 of the next stanza, actually; yeah, i know, i'm slow, lol) what you were talking about.  you beautifully kept up the conceit throughout, very well done.  

i don't know nuthin' about sestinas, either, actually, but i gather it's 6 six-line stanzas, with the end words always the same but rotating throughout (i don't feel like trying to figure out if there's a pattern to that, but i'm sure there is, lol), and then a three-line summation or conclusion at the end (haha, where else would the conclusion be?), with the six end words doubled up.  you use some good tricks here; "board" sometimes appearing as "bored", and "side" once as "sighed", "die" and "dye", very nice.  i really like your clever use of language, using the same word in its multiple meanings, for example "rank" appearing in stanzas 1 and 3 as station or status, in stanzas 2, 4 and 5 as a row, column, or group, and in the final full stanza as a putrid, awful odor.  you do similar things with "file" and "mate".  really, i'm impressed, and it made reading this so enjoyable.  i also liked your line "Black and white and red, they move and fight and die"; once i got over the first thing that popped into my head (the old joke, what's black and white and red all over?), i appreciated the nice symmetry in there.  

really well done; i wish i knew more about the game of chess, i'm sure there's a lot more going on here than i realize.  (for example, what piece is the speaker?  i think i can live without knowing about the gruenfeld gambit, though, lol.)

thanks for a stimulating read!

jenni

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2 posted 2000-02-09 11:17 AM


Hi Philip,

This is indeed very clever use of words. I remember this from the workshop. I seem to recall your saying "it wasn't fun to write." But I suspect you were not really serious. It certainly is fun to read.

I think it must be challenging to write a sestina which makes sense and is interesting throughout, but you have done so admirably, my friend. Each time I read this piece, I find something I didn't see before and it becomes more interesting.

I'm not sure you can legitimately morph the end words in a sestina (board/bored, die/dye, side/sighed) but it did allow you to introduce some interesting nuances. Also, as Jenni pointed out, your use of multiple meanings for words, such as rank, was very good. It helped add interest to the piece. Ah, the subtleties and inconsistencies of our beloved common language.

Very well done. I'm glad you brought this one to CA and I hope others will read it and comment.

Thanks.


 Pete

What terms shall I find sufficiently simple in their sublimity --
sufficiently sublime in their simplicity --
for the mere enunciation of my theme?
Edgar Allan Poe



Poertree
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3 posted 2000-02-09 11:26 AM


.  (for example, what piece is the speaker?  

The answer to that is in the title Jenni and also in

"I turn, gaze up and whisper"

the position of the piece can be worked out from that down to one of three possibilities then later

"I craved the honour of the lead"

would give any chess player a pretty good idea of the exact piece

but it does help if you know the pieces ..lol

.. and thanks to both you and Pete for looking at this again !  I've gotta run right now I'll get back to you both later ...

Thanks again

P

jenni
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4 posted 2000-02-09 11:48 AM


"but it does help if you know the pieces ..lol"

yeah, it also might help if you didn't speak in riddles and just said what it was!

Poertree
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5 posted 2000-02-09 11:54 AM


LOL
warmhrt
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6 posted 2000-02-09 12:05 PM


Philip,
I used to play chess with my father when I was young, but it's been so long, I barely remember anything about it. I do recall the names of the pieces, however, and perhaps a few of the moves. As Jenni said, this was very clever...ingenious...turning the chessboard into a visible battlefield.

As far as a sestina goes, I'm not sure if you're breaking the rules by changing the words...using homonyms instead. A sestina expert would have to answer that.

I loved almost all of your word choices..."stalk the charnel field" especially, and the manner in which the tension is built,leading to the final stanza, and the win.

I did not care too much for "foppish" in describing the king...perhaps, "But a smug shadow.. " or "A preening shadow..". I suppose "foppish" is more commonly used "over there", but it just sounded kind of out of place. (Oh...comma or space between "listless" and "bored", 3rd line, second stanza)  

This was an extremely good piece, Philip,
and so very distinct. Pat yourself on the back...quite a few times.

Kris

  If I can ease one life the aching,
Or cool one pain,...
I shall not live in vain - Emily Dickinson



Trevor
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7 posted 2000-02-09 04:40 PM


Hey Philip, I love this so much that I wanted to cry!!!!
Poertree
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8 posted 2000-02-09 05:07 PM


Now then Trevor ... I never had you down for a bitch ..... miaowwwwwwwwwwwwww  

Hey c'mon .. play the game this is CA ... short AND unambiguous if you please ..  

H & K's  

P


jbouder
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9 posted 2000-02-09 08:20 PM


Philip:

I've been hoping you would post this in here.  This was a remarkable accomplishment.  I love the chess theme and I love the "tragedy" and the "victory" at the end when the pawn first lost its queen (I think) then reached the final square and, by doing so, the queen was reborn and the use-to-be pawn became the hero who saved the day.  I loved every stanza of this.

Jim


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10 posted 2000-02-10 10:57 AM


Geez Jim, that's good. I somehow missed that part about the pawn becoming a queen. I guess its been too long since I played chess.  



 Pete

What terms shall I find sufficiently simple in their sublimity --
sufficiently sublime in their simplicity --
for the mere enunciation of my theme?
Edgar Allan Poe



Corazon
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11 posted 2000-02-10 01:24 PM


well I knew it was about chess *looking very pleased* lol does that count for soemthing?
I wasn't able to follow the movement, but the way you gave the pieces life and emotions is incredible..great poem

jamaicabradley
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12 posted 2000-02-10 04:43 PM


I really enjoyed this one, although I got the impression the Queen was not reborn, but in fact dead, and "he" was reborn. I like the use of chess and felt alot from this, doomed love affair.

Jamaica

mysticharm
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since 2000-06-08
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13 posted 2000-06-14 07:08 PM


Bonjour Philip

After reading 'Angela' I had to take a journey to seek out your other writings. This one jumped out at me the most, maybe cuz I am a true lover of chess...finally something I understand without reading it 20X  

I have to be honest Philip...when I play chess I have not thought of each move I make or my opponent makes in a poetic sense...you managed to strategically write out each line with the same prowess as you would make each move.

I have tried playing two games since I read this and can't without thinking of some line from your poem which very easily distracts me from my game play...LOL...I will never look at chess the same way again  

Cuz I love chess, would I be prejudice in saying "This is my favorite of your poems that I have read up til now".

BRAVO PHILIP!

 Never underestimate the Power of Purpose.
Yesterday is history.
Tomorrow is a mystery.
Today is a gift.
That's why it's called the 'Present'
unknown


Forrest Cain
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14 posted 2000-06-15 09:13 AM


Poertree excellent from stat to finish. But I must confess initially I thought you were using the stratagies of chess to develop the theme of the King doing medieval battle.
Poertree very well constucted and a pleasure
to read. I know you must have woked vey hard to get this kind of theme and the perfect words to support them.I origiinally
thought you was using the analogy of chess to describe the crusades and King Arthur
Though in a since you are. Just so you
know my part in this poem I was the pawn who
mated. Also had me a few serving wenchs on
the side.  Man I`m exhausted. Again poertree
excellent work. I don`t know what you`ll
do for an encore. I read everything you
write, I don`t always comment because
I usually can only say I like them. Original
and fresh mateial.I will read again and
again and save for my scrap book.Be very careful though someone could tip the table and take your queen(unless she`s really
mean and ugly)and then your back to digging
moats
Thanks for the read and excuse my
rambling and bad jokes. I just like to see the little guys win somtimes.
I salute you Sir Lancelot.
and may your sword and pen  
be always vigilant.
Your frind and admirer
forrest cain




Arhur

Brad
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15 posted 2000-06-16 03:48 AM


Philip,
Is this a repost or a rewrite? I can't remember the last one (well, obviously I can because I brought it up, didn't I? I mean remember it exactly) but just wanted to add that I enjoyed this one as well.

When I have time (and don't forget), I'll try to get into the 'meat' as Doreen puts it.

Brad

eldridgejackson
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16 posted 2000-06-16 07:41 PM


You have motivated me to do a poem about checkers.
I jump
you jump
like frogs we jump
one way we stay
until we are kings
Then we can go any damn place we want!!!

All kidding aside I enjoyed the originality of your work.

EJ

eldridgejackson
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17 posted 2000-06-16 08:04 PM


You have motivated me to do a poem about checkers.
I jump
you jump
like frogs we jump
one way we stay
until we are kings
Then we can go any damn place we want!!!

All kidding aside I enjoyed the originality of your work.

EJ

Poertree
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Posts 1359
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18 posted 2000-06-18 04:34 AM


Mysti

First apologies for being so long in saying "merci" ..and also thanks for resurrecting this, i've been away for a few days and off-line...

I'm glad it caught your notice .. not too many people in Passions seem to play the game ..and without a basic knowledge i guess some of the intent might be lost....

oh and also i'm grateful for your comment on "Angela"

thanks again

forrest

as i just said to mysti ..i've been away .. what a complimentary set of comments to come back to especially from a guy whose poetry i admire as much as i do yours, i really do appreciate what you said and thanks very much for taking the time ....

brad

actually ..it's neither .. mysti very kindly resurrected it from the archives ... glad you got to it this time .......lol......

eldridge

a poem about checkers .....lol... surely not!! that's that dumb US game ain't it ..?? so simple you have to switch your brain off .. heh heh .....    ... kiddin' of course ..being a rude draughts playing brit!!

thanks to you all for commenting

philip


Lighthousebob
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19 posted 2000-06-19 03:55 AM


% I am a chess player from CA.  I love your end game. Two queens a white pond and two kings.  Your white and your opponent is black. The black queen dies in the process of the white pond and queen moving down the board. The white pond reaches the opposite side of the board to become a queen and put the black king into check mate.  Very simple.

Bob <><

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