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steavenr Member Elite
since 2003-11-17
Posts 4058 |
stranded on desert isle no rhyme, no meter, no hope all alone on sand-shores blown by winds tempetuous and warm awaiting relief from proper sounds that soothe the savage beast that in each breast beats savage-strong and offers no retreat with schemes defunct by unkempt measures that serve as guard-rules stern and bid the freedom yet unfound by limitless words unheard unwelcome freedom does exist the rhymester doth proclaim 'tis not for some this sacred means of scribing seems good at all so some may read and simply follow what's good for some...does not favor all |
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amusemi Senior Member
since 2001-12-08
Posts 1262A State of Disarray |
I agree. Sometimes the confines of rhyme are just too limiting and decrease the effect and the message. Great write...kat |
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Vestibular Bard Member
since 2008-12-11
Posts 284New York |
Hey Steaven R! How do you do? You’d be surprised what rhymes can do. That free verse stuff gets too sublime, It’s best for folks, who can’t bust rhyme. I read free verse, and holy crap, It’s one big adjective attack! Sometimes I get just so perturbed, Searching through it… for the verb! Unwelcome freedom does exist, And without rules, verse can’t resist, Feeling dry and quite pretentious... ...While in my rhymes, I'm quite contentious.  [This message has been edited by Vestibular Bard (12-19-2008 09:15 AM).] |
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steavenr Member Elite
since 2003-11-17
Posts 4058 |
kat, thank you very much...good to know someone of the 7,000 who have not yet bent the knee VB, well, you certainly got the last word...thank you kindly |
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Marc-Andre Senior Member
since 2008-12-07
Posts 501 |
I'm with Vestibular Bard on this. Too often, free verse is little more than bad prose in broken lines. With the variety of time-proven metrical lines and rhyme schemes (unless you choose to write blank verse,) and with the vast & etymologically rich vocabulary, a lot can be achieved. My experience is that the stricter the form, the better I perform. It gives me freedom from laziness, prolixity and wandering thoughts, allowing me to delve deeper into the matter and into myself. And the opportunities for experimentation are boundless. Assuming that meter and rhyme would be insufficient to deliver a powerful message, there still remain the alliteration, the choice of hard or soft consonants, the choice of monosyllabic or polysyllabic words, the careful use of enjambments, the justified metric substitution, line truncation, feminine endings, etc. Need I say more? That said, I liked the imagery in your first stanza. A merry Christmas to you  Mark |
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steavenr Member Elite
since 2003-11-17
Posts 4058 |
Marc, what you have said is said so well. I come from the school that taught me to learn all the rules of traditional poetry first. My first mentor would not allow any derivation...until ALL the rules were first, learned; second, followed, and third, respected. I appreciate your love for fine writing. I am certainly not rejecting it, just asking that we broaden our horizons to accept more. My favorite form of poetry is still the Shakespearean Sonnet, but some of us are more Bills than Wills. (I want to wear a Christmas hat) |
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Marc-Andre Senior Member
since 2008-12-07
Posts 501 |
Steavenr, I believe we do agree on that only a true master of the poetic craft can write fine -and justified- free verse I've seen a few. Yet I do believe that it is the freedoms afforded by forms that sorely need to be promoted.Thanks for posting and bringing the topic up. Mark |
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Vestibular Bard Member
since 2008-12-11
Posts 284New York |
Steaven: I must agree with Marc Andre, With firmest forms, I like to play, I don’t like amateur prolix... I do delve deeper quite a bit. I like a fun alliteration, and silly, metered masturbation. And hopefully, I’m not offending With my rhyme’s firm fem’nine ending. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
"ode to free verse" *smile* I found this to be clever, actually. Odes are hard to do, as it is, so yep, a freeverse ode? laughing YOU ARE BRILLIANT. |
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Marc-Andre Senior Member
since 2008-12-07
Posts 501 |
Be it music, painting, sculpture, or poetry, it is through mastery of the craft that artistic talent is best revealed. Food for thoughts. VB, that was amusing. I must go to work now, but after that, I'll surely be back here to play. Mark |
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steavenr Member Elite
since 2003-11-17
Posts 4058 |
serenity, thank you for noticing that irony...should have figured you'd get it...thank you muchly (one of my favorite non-words) (and yes, another Christmas hat!) |
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ethome Member Patricius
since 2000-05-14
Posts 11858New Brunswick Canada |
I think the depth of perception makes both forms acceptable. The rhyming kind is so musical and so much fun. However, as a songwriter I use the rhymes all the time....Heh I guess that even rhymes Aw hell it's some sort of addiction.....too! Eric |
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Alison 
since 2008-01-27
Posts 9318Lumpy oatmeal makes me crazy! |
Steaven, I keep coming back to read your poetry. Alison |
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threadbear Senior Member
since 2008-07-10
Posts 817Indy |
Wittily penned, Steve! One should know the rules before breaking them. JF |
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YoungatHeart2 Member
since 2008-12-12
Posts 81 |
I agree with Serenity and threadbear. Your ode is awesome and you are very creative!!!! May I take my tongue out of my cheek now? YaH |
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Marc-Andre Senior Member
since 2008-12-07
Posts 501 |
This is verse. For and rhymes. I’ll achieve My I’ll no Nay, with First try longer bend I will let white space At my knee My such Free to form Verse be free. Imagery, and With all do away. Elf that This is For reading, En- slav- and I mean my Thank ing con- you can business rebellion, You. Now would Vent- see here, can this you Ions for yours- ’t you? Is my art. Like a brown bag? |
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Vestibular Bard Member
since 2008-12-11
Posts 284New York |
Marc, I enjoyed your verse, but I think it could have used one more 'Nay' in there. |
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Marc-Andre Senior Member
since 2008-12-07
Posts 501 |
Thanks VB, I have a hard time formatting it here, the layout is much crisper on my word file. But I think you've seen it. But seriously In which stanza would you had the second "nay?" LOL. Mark |
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inkedgoddess Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-19
Posts 7392Ohio |
i revel and rebel in free verse best personally i think anyone can do that singstong rhyme stuff like im a poet and i didnt know it ya know what i mean jellybean |
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steavenr Member Elite
since 2003-11-17
Posts 4058 |
Eric, addiction to rhyme...is there a cure thanks for commentingAlison, a great compliment from a true student of the art...thank you...means a lot JF, you sound like my dear friend McCamish...certainly do agree with you...regarding the rules...though a child of the sixties, never really got into my era...I'm such a conventionalist...thank you for commenting Young, thank you...but, imho, it is neither an ode nor free verse...and, my problem when I put my tongue in cheek is that I often leave it long enough to become foot in mouth Marc, if I remember correctly, I would call yours a concrete...but my problem is that I cannot make out what it should read...help, please? inked, tsk, tsk, tsk...how very naughty of you to declare the virtues of free verse...but, then again, you are a goddess...thanks for your comments...I liked them... |
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LindsayP Member Elite
since 2007-07-28
Posts 3410Australia, Victoria |
Steav' you would have guessed by now that I favour rhyming poetry but I also like reading free verse as well, as long as it is telling a story,and your poem just does that. much enjoyed. Lindsay |
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steavenr Member Elite
since 2003-11-17
Posts 4058 |
Lindsay, never would have thought this would raise such a firestorm...really just threw together with so little thought...oh, well...glad you liked it...thanks for stopping by |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
Hi Steavenr, this is surprising as inspiration but the question worth to be set...For myself I think that the rhymes add music for sure but I'm dubious about the sense the poet want to bring to his poem. I think the modern poetry is more images and senses than music and less senses...I enjoy very much free verse and will never write with rhymes but I like reading poems with rhymes...Thank you for the clever and thoughtful poem. yann |
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Balladeer
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
I searched around for free-verse poems Written by the Christmas gnomes. Alas! My search left me aghast Even when I searched the past. I'm sure there must be some good reason For using rhyme for Christmas season. Perhaps we like to understand The words displayed by poets' hand. We like the rhythm and the flow That settles like the falling snow. We like the metered verse that rhymes Wnene'er we celebrate this time. We like the beat of reindeer hoofs As they make way along our roofs. We like the structure life employs Which makes life music, not just noise. If it's good enough for Christmas time, This measured verse that we call rhyme Then you can keep the other stuff. For me, my rhyme is quite enough |
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Marc-Andre Senior Member
since 2008-12-07
Posts 501 |
I'm with you all the way, Balladeer. Actually, almost all the way. Meter I deem necessary; rhyme slightly less so. I'm not ready to dismiss blank verse. There are so many works in blank verse worth the name of poetry, e.g. Milton's Paradise Lost. As for free verse, I must admit that I yet have to read one that I have really enjoyed without thinking it would have been better with a "liberating" and empowering structure. Mark P.S: very nice little poem you've posted here |
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Balladeer
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
Thanks,Marc-Andre. Acutally, though, I HAVE read a few free verse poems that I think would have been diminished if written in rhyme. Sylvia Plath's Daddy is the one that comes most quickly to mind. They are the exceptions, though. |
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