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Ron
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0 posted 2000-02-25 06:11 AM


... but not too hard!      

Actually, this is a test. One that I need your help with. Our email notification feature seems to be working sporadically (or not working sporadically, as the case may be), and I'm having a devil of a time discovering why. It seems that no matter what I try to do it works for me without fail. And unless I can see it broken, I'll never determine the cause.

Thus, I am marking this post to email me each time someone replies. I would appreciate a few dozen replies or so, in the hopes that one of them will break the chain - then maybe I can figure out what's causing it.

Thanks for the help!



Editing this, at Jim's suggestion, to see if it has any impact...

Nope. It didn't turn off the email notify just by editing. Following up on another suggestion of Jim's, I deleted my cookies and came back in. My name and password were not displayed, just as happened to Jim - but the email notification is still checked.

See what I mean, guys - this simply refuses to break for me!    

© Copyright 2000 Ron Carnell - All Rights Reserved
Poet deVine
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1 posted 2000-02-25 06:55 AM


What pressure! At least these messages should have some depth, some meaning. Imagine, you will have to come over here and read these pithy replies. Perhaps you should have asked for a joke or something!  

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2 posted 2000-02-25 07:15 AM


I've noticed the problem too Ron.....sometimes I'll get 20 responses and 2 or 3 e-mail replies...other time someone will reply and I'll get a notification even days later......odd odd thing, personally I think that you're using our main frame computer as help in the SETE program during the down time and that the aliens are trying to communicte through us and that's why the signals get crossed (ROFL...well, it's as good of an excuse as any isn't it?)
Nan
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3 posted 2000-02-25 07:25 AM


There you are... I'm sitting here with googols of questions and very few answers - can't get online to ask 'em - And you're hanging around in the local cafe and back alleys getting into mischief... I see how it is..
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4 posted 2000-02-25 07:30 AM


I like the surprise factor of seeing the number of replies ( or lack of ) next to my rambles, so I don't use the e-mail feature.

I don't mind replying so you can fix it though.  

 Yes, I admit your general rule. That every poet is a fool:
But I myself may serve to show it. That every fool is not a poet.


Nan
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5 posted 2000-02-25 08:29 AM


I agree with Craig... Of course, my email comes and goes to and from so many directions, I'd probably never get it anyway..
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6 posted 2000-02-25 09:25 AM


Ditto....I personally don't use it but I hope you can find the problem for the others who do!  

Denise

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7 posted 2000-02-25 10:47 AM


Dear Ms. deVine,  no need to get all pithy about it, the man just wants a reply.  (have always wanted to say that.. hehe)
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8 posted 2000-02-25 11:06 AM


lalalalalalalalalalalalalala...... I hope you figure out whats wrong. I have had about four different people from Teen e-mail me about this situatuion. Good luck Ron.

 "WRITING IS EASY. ALL YOU DO IS STARE AT A BLANK SHEET OF PAPER UNTIL DROPS OF BLOOD FORM ON YOUR FOREHEAD." Gene Fowler

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9 posted 2000-02-25 11:44 AM


Since I got nothing better to say and I want to contribute to the cause, I will just tell some jokes  


Things to Ponder

How come wrong numbers are always busy?
Do people in Australia call the rest of the world 'up over'?
Can a stupid person be a smart-ass?
Does that screwdriver belong to Phillip?
Does killing time damage eternity?
Why doesnt Tarzan have a beard?
Why is it called lipstick if you can still move your lips?
Why is it night falls but day breaks?
Why is the third hand on a watch called the second hand?
Why is it when your driving and looking for an address, you turn down
the volume on the radio?
Why is it lemon juice is made with artificial flavor, but dishwashing
liquid is made with real lemons?
Are part-time band leaders semi-conductors?
Can you buy an entire chess set in a pawnshop?
Day light savings time - why are they saving it and where do they keep
it?
Did Noah keep his bees in archives?
Do jellyfish get gas from eating jellybeans?
Do pilots take crash-courses?
Do Roman paramedics rever to IV's as "4's"?
Do stars clean themselves with meteor showers?
Do you think that when they asked George Washington for ID he just
whipped out a quarter?
Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?
Have you ever seen a toad on a toadstool?
How can there be self-help "groups"?
How do you get off a nonstop flight?
How do you write zero in roman numerals?
How many weeks are there in a light year?
If a candle factory burns down, does everyone just stand around and sing
"Happy Birthday"?
If a jogger runs at the speed of sound, can he still hear his walkman?
If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?
If Barbie's so popular, why do you have to buy all her friends?
If blind people wear dark glasses, why dont deaf people wear earmuffs?
If cats and dogs didn't have fur, would we still pet them?
If peanut butter cookies are made of peanut butter, what are girl scout
cookies made of?
If space is a vacuum, who changes the bags?
If swimming is good for your shape, then how do you explain whales?
If tin whistles are made out of tin, what do they make fog horns out of?
If white wine goes with fish, do white grapes go with sushi?
If you cant drink and drive, why do bars have parking lots?
If you job backwards, do you gain weight?
Why do signs that say "Slow Children" have a picture of a running child?
Why do they call it chili if its hot?
Why do we sing "Take me out the the ball game" when we are already
there?
Why is it the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour?


Sven
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10 posted 2000-02-25 01:27 PM


Okay here's a message. . . but nothing too long. . . because you said that you only wanted a short message and after the message that is before this message, I don't think that anyone could really stand to read a long message. . . but since I really don't know what to say, I'll just stop right now and I hope that this takes care of it. . .

---------------------------------------------

 That which gives light must endure burning
--Victor Frankl


PhaerieChild
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11 posted 2000-02-25 01:44 PM


I won't slam ya hard. I hope you get it fixed. Well, I know you'll get it fixed... you are very tenacious when it comes to that. Sorta like a pitbull LOL Okay that's all the slammin' I'm gonna do. Thanks for your perserverance Ron.

 Poetry~ Words falling on paper, painting a dream.

Shawna R. Holder
Boise, Idaho



Ron
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12 posted 2000-02-25 02:03 PM


Eleven replies, eleven email. Ya ain't broke it yet, guys! Where's Marge? She always manages to break hers!

Please continue trying, my friends...


RainbowGirl
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13 posted 2000-02-25 02:24 PM


Ron: Let me see if I can bring about some bad luck for you...LOL...

HUGS

poetFemmeFatale
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14 posted 2000-02-25 03:14 PM


Hey, you're talking to the Queen of bad luck!  How's this.......(sticking out tongue!)  If anyone can cause a world-wide dilemma, it's me!   ROFL  
So here goes Mr. Ron!  (SUBMIT)

jbouder
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15 posted 2000-02-25 03:57 PM


Ron:

I noticed that sometimes when I go in and edit my work the little "email notification" box becomes unchecked.  I couldn't be that simple though, could it?

Jim

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16 posted 2000-02-25 04:11 PM


I use it...cause I am gone for 3 or 4 days at a time and its nice to know if someone replies or not...but it is very erratic...sometime I don't get them at all, other times I get them all delayed the next day...other times its one here and not one there...maybe its the fault of the respective servers more than its the fault of PIP...
Corazon
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17 posted 2000-02-25 04:12 PM


and one more from me just to see
Corazon
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18 posted 2000-02-25 04:13 PM


is three the charm?....good luck ron  
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19 posted 2000-02-25 04:37 PM


Since every email server I use commits the ultimate sin of failing to deliver all of Toe's emails, I don't bother using them for notification... *G* So, Ron... whenever you figure this out, ya wanta work on yahoo's woes? LOL
Ron
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20 posted 2000-02-25 04:43 PM


For the record, delayed notifications (as opposed to no notification) are invariably the fault of a mail server somewhere. It could be our mail server (especially during the Valentine's rush, when Ceres was so badly stressed), but in most cases I've seen the fault lies with one of the "free" email servers.

I invariably get a dozen or more notices from Ceres every day, warning me of "delays." Ceres tries to connect with the appropriate mail server at her first opportunity, and I think it's fairly immediate. If she can't get through she sends me a message, then tries again every four hours. After five days, she gives up entirely (and I get a few of those, too).

The biggest offenders seem to be hotmail.com and yahoo.com, but I've seen warnings and bounces from just about everyone (even the actual ISP's). EMail, it seems, isn't quite as "guaranteed" as the US postal service, yet.  


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21 posted 2000-02-25 04:50 PM


I think you should take my Computer Repair and Anger Management Seminar at the Abrahm Simons School of Stupid Ideas.  Through rigorous training and long sessions spent communicating with your computer via high pitched screams you'll achieve a Zen-like oneness with your computer and randomly forget things.  You'll also fall over and hurt yourself constantly, but your computer will seem to work!  Please send the $1,000,000 enrollment fee to me, and I'll book your first class!

 A writer's soul is on paper etched.

In flames I shall not be consumed, but reborn. --
Abrahm Simons



RainbowGirl
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22 posted 2000-02-25 06:26 PM


Ron: Seeing as I know I will probably have your complete and undivided attention for the next 2 mins..*g*....can we please have a laughter or 'up' board...

I can't possibly be the only person going through a really bad time but one where I also want to forget that and be my usual fun loving self, you know, quick-witted, humorous, laughing in the face of adversity...It is so great to laugh and joke and I find the Open forums are so depressing of late and yes, I know I contribute but I need a place to be "me" not just a sad me but the happy me, the smiley one, the mischievous one, the little devil and there doesn't seem a place for me to go...any suggestion, I'll happily listen to any recommendations that you offer or indeed anyone else...I am just so fed up of being 'miserable'...I love life and I need laughter as much as I need to express any other thoughts I have....

I bet mail doesn't work on this one..*g*

HUSG

[This message has been edited by RainbowGirl (edited 02-25-2000).]

Marilyn
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23 posted 2000-02-25 06:46 PM


Well better late then never they say.  
Nan
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24 posted 2000-02-25 06:48 PM


SLAMMING!!!






[This message has been edited by Nan (edited 02-25-2000).]

Ron
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25 posted 2000-02-25 07:02 PM


Ahaaa!



Nan just broke it! (Should she win a prize or something for this?)

The question, of course, is what did Nan do differently than everyone else? She edited her post. She also (I think) used the formatting options (or did you write the HTML yourself, Nan?).

Okay, I've reset the Email Notification. Let's try a test. Someone please post, then go back in and immediately edit your post. Do not format or add HTML (we'll test that separately).

We just might be onto something here, guys...  

p.s. RainbowGirl, good suggestion! But, uh, you lost your bet.  

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26 posted 2000-02-25 07:14 PM


I should have guessed.  Of all the people, only Nan would succeed where others have failed.  


Alicat

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27 posted 2000-02-25 07:22 PM


Being a pendantic so and so, I'll ask which bet? The one where you'd have no mail notification or your undivided attention...LOL, I'm kidding, it's obviously the bet...ooops..  

So, having made an error, I'll edit and change it....I'm determined to sleep with a smile..  

HUGS

[This message has been edited by RainbowGirl (edited 02-25-2000).]

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28 posted 2000-02-25 07:32 PM


Perhaps the forum doesn't like shouting? Nan was quite loud there! I covered my ears!!!

Later that same day: Poet deVine relaxes by the computer..waiting for the guru of poetry to figure out this conundrum...(that's a puzzle that is safe to ponder - for you non-dictionarians!)

  

[This message has been edited by Poet deVine (edited 02-25-2000).]

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29 posted 2000-02-25 07:53 PM


Well, it appears the conundrum has been conundered (you laughing yet, RG?).

I received notification of RG's post, then she edited it. I did not receive notification of PdV's post. Ergo, the email notification is getting zapped when someone (other than the original poster) edits. It's no darn wonder I could never get it to fail during my tests!

Okay, that doesn't solve the problem, but it does give us two possible solutions. One, I can dig into the code and find where it's happening. Now that I know what is happening I have some idea where to look. Personally, however, I like the second solution better. If everyone would quit making mistakes and editing, the problem would obviously go away! (You laughing yet, RG?)

Thanks for the help!!!!


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30 posted 2000-02-25 07:54 PM


OK... I'm not gonna shout this time - But I am using the formatting that the software allows....

I'm thinking about my prize - I have some ideas in mind - and I'll let ya know...

Nan
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31 posted 2000-02-25 08:01 PM


This time, I'll write some of my own html

I'm psyched - I really can't wait till I get that prize... I've got some really good ideas brewing here

I'm open to suggestions too, y'all..



[This message has been edited by Nan (edited 02-25-2000).]

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32 posted 2000-02-25 08:11 PM


I think the prize should be a guest shot on "X Files"....or maybe as Grand Marshal of the Rose Parade!  

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33 posted 2000-02-25 08:19 PM


Oh Geesh....am I in trouble if we can't make mistakes and edit them.....heck, my whole lifes a big mistake sometimes...now if only I could find a way to edit it this easily  

by the way....if anyone signs up for Dusk Treaders class...I'd like to know   My aunt always said marry the first time for money, the second time for love...since I didn't get it right the first time, I think I should get another chance...lol

[This message has been edited by hoot_owl_rn (edited 02-25-2000).]

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34 posted 2000-02-25 08:29 PM


Ruth! Didn't you see "How to Marry a Multi Millionaire"!!???  Please do not do that!! It was the worst display of greed I've ever seen...he wanted her because she was cute.. she wanted him because he was rich..I say they shouldn't be allowed to have that marriage annulled! Chain them together..they deserve each other...

Have I digressed?

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35 posted 2000-02-25 08:34 PM


I would say both got exactly what they wanted.

Richard Gere and Julia Roberts had exactly the same relationship in Pretty Woman. They were just a bit more honest about it...

Nan
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36 posted 2000-02-25 08:53 PM


Pretty woman, walkin' down the street - Pretty woman, the kind you'd like to meet... Pretty woman.....

A PRIZE... I'm gettin' a PRIZE!!!!... YIPPEE!!!






[This message has been edited by Nan (edited 02-27-2000).]

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37 posted 2000-02-25 08:56 PM


I cringed when those 5 women paraded themselves around in wedding dresses! I watched it for moments at a time..and once the jerk 'chose the winner' and I realized they were going to actually be married on TV only minutes after meeting, I turned it off...

I bet they book themselves on the Jerry Springer show for the divorce!

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38 posted 2000-02-25 10:30 PM


I don't about RG...but it made me laugh Ron! Thanks!  

Jerry Springer for a divorce?  hahahaha I bet they might just do that!

Well ya figured it out, hey I figured that out last night should of just asked!    LOL

When I edited my post, the notifications quit coming so I'd have to go back in edit and check the email again. Grrr...Well, we can all try not to make any mistakes. hehe

We need one big EDIT button for life. Or was Alwaye said it, where's the pause button? I wanna put my life on pause!  

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39 posted 2000-02-27 02:47 AM


Well, Ron ..... Marge is here, where she almost NEVER goes because she doesn't like to rant and rave in public ... but having been duly challenged, I'll give it my best shot.

I wish you had sent me an e-mail to let me know you were posting this .... I could probably have busted your chops before Nan did !  LOL !

You might also try going in and doing the PREVIEW thingie ... also the edit can't always be the reason for Marge, because she usually corrects MOST mistakes/typos/format in the PREVIEW stage ... then she goes back out and checks the appropriate little boxes, one of which is for e-mail notification and then submits.  

Hope it helps to know that Marge's still dropped notifications as late as yesterday.

Are we having fun yet?  Thanks, Ron.  
~*Marge*~


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RainbowGirl
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40 posted 2000-02-27 06:49 AM


Ron: Yep, I'm laughing..

HUGS

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41 posted 2000-02-28 11:36 AM


Hummmmph!  Not even an honorable mention.  
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