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The Lamentable Mr. Williams
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The Lamentable Mr. Williams |
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Ratleader
since 2003-01-23
Posts 7026Visiting Earth on a Guest Pass 
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The Lamentable Mr. Williams I don’t want you to think I’ll enjoy what I say here but there’s something in play here and I can’t end my day here without pointing out too: Sir, we’re better without you. Sure, the useable idiots tried to belay it or at worst to delay it, “Oh we can’t execute him, he’s acting so nice now:” Their most common device now. So, without wading into a rambling rant, I say, too bad we can’t slaughter every murdering gangbanger wookie-- but at least we got Tookie. [This message has been edited by Ratleader (12-14-2005 10:19 PM).] |
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Marge Tindal
since 1999-11-06
Posts 42384Florida's Foreverly Shores |
 -ing YOU !!*Huglets*  ~*Marge*~ ~*No matter what I search for ... |
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Martie
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-09-21
Posts 28049California |
Ed....I don't believe that capital punishment solves anything....! The second time I read this I noticed you called him sir. Even if he only became a sir in his own eyes, that's something good! Respect solves many things!! |
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Ratleader
since 2003-01-23
Posts 7026Visiting Earth on a Guest Pass |
Not the way we do it now, that's true....in California it's a one in twenty-thousand chance of actually being punished for your crime, even if you're convicted, and even then you get to live on for 30 years while they play appeal tag. The four people he tied up and shot, never got that chance. They're dead, and he got to live on for decades. Worse, almost no one now actually connects the crime with the punishment, so there's no deterrent effect at all. You're right, whether a person believes in it or not, it's pointless to have capital punishment if that's how we do it. ....but....that's a royal Sir...at a visceral level I don't really accept him as being from the same species I am, let alone giving the slightest actual respect. ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸ ¸¸ºº> ~~~(¸¸ER¸¸ºº> ______________Ratleader______________ |
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Kaoru
since 2003-06-07
Posts 3892where the wild flowers grow |
Sometimes a stance is just that..and even death can't bring back the dead. However if it's justice we seek.... |
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suthern
since 1999-07-29
Posts 20723Louisiana |
Because of the proximity of the dates, I can't separate what happened in California with what happened here... both recently and a year ago. The scum that murdered my friend got "life"... rather ironic after taking Billy's so needlessly? I can applaud the lamentable Mr. Williams for his anti-gang books... but fail to see how we're supposed to believe there was reformation when there was never any remorse. Capital punishment will never be a deterrent to crime as long as criminals get to out-live their victims for decades... but jail cell celebrity is pitiful punishment, indeed. There were victims in this scenario... Tookie wasn't one of them. I just wish someone would oil the wheels of justice so they'd turn more quickly! |
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Ratleader
since 2003-01-23
Posts 7026Visiting Earth on a Guest Pass |
I know the story of that murder -- your friend was doing something noble, as one would expect a friend of Suthern's to do....and that cretin killed him for it. Yes, there are crimes so hideous that anyone who commits them forfeits their right to live on as a human being. Tookie did that four times over, and the gang he founded is responsible for thousands more. ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸ ¸¸ºº> ~~~(¸¸ER¸¸ºº> ______________Ratleader______________ |
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icebox Member Elite
since 2003-05-03
Posts 4383in the shadows |
karma sometimes is as undeniable as a freight train. I do not think we disagree on this event, but I do think there is a better overall approach. this society simply has become too childlike to stand up. |
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LeeJ Member Patricius
since 2003-06-19
Posts 13296 |
not only your poem, but all the comments as well..... Icebox....amen |
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Ratleader
since 2003-01-23
Posts 7026Visiting Earth on a Guest Pass |
Amen the amen, 'box -- you nailed it. He was a dyed-in-the-wool sociopath, interested only in himself, and no other person counted more to him than a road cone...to be steered around if it might dent your car, driven over if you feel like it. That said, no amount of mock sweetness-and-light, no number of books "written" at the ghostwriter's initiative, changes the fact that he did the deed, and the deed has a penalty. ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸ ¸¸ºº> ~~~(¸¸ER¸¸ºº> ______________Ratleader______________ |
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Ratleader
since 2003-01-23
Posts 7026Visiting Earth on a Guest Pass |
Thank you, LeeJ! First person to mention the poem! Of course, polemic verse isn't meant to be deathless -- heck, somebody posted a link to Eugene McCarthy's poetry over in Announcements, and it's living proof of just how immature time can make a polemic poet look.... But, that said, I believe it's absolutely necessary that anyone who writes a polemic type of verse, should take the time to create an actual poem with some craft to it, not just use the fact that it's rhymed as cover to lob stinkbombs....so I was careful with the cadence, careful with the rhyme, and tried to make it a poem that works. ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº> ~~(¸¸ ¸¸ºº> ~~~(¸¸ER¸¸ºº> |
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suthern
since 1999-07-29
Posts 20723Louisiana |
Ah, yes... the poem ... Ahem!!! *G* Can I help it that I was concentrating so much on trying to herd the spew of words that dripped from my fingers (there was need to limit my own lob of stinkbombs LOL) that I forgot to mention the poem???? Talk about lamentable! *S* It's not that I didn't notice more than the content of your poem... I just let spitting mad take precedence over dancing with glee... but I waltz now to a joyful chant... you rhymed, you rhymed, YOU RHYMED!!! *S* And you proved, of course, that your not rhyming often is a matter of choice... for you're a master at weaving rhyme and rhythm into a flawless flow of words... again reminding us what poetry is all about. *S* |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan |
Ed, Distance lends enchantment, even to horror. Mercy is easy, when it’s not your loved one in the coffin. Capital punishment may not be a deterrent as others would have it yet fathers and mothers are willing to give law a hearing rather than go after those butchers who murdered their sons and daughters for all their pleading. John P.S. Now we'll both burn in Hell. At least we won't have any trouble getting a light. |
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