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Susan
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0 posted 2005-01-19 11:37 AM


have you felt
the sorrow
that sometimes sweeps in
as a wind from the north
blowing chill
to the soul
and moving eyes to weep
as heart questions and wonders
why it is
the lights dim
and gray shades descend
beneath that cold
chill
unexpected
wind
?

s.a.t.



If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

© Copyright 2005 s.a.t. - All Rights Reserved
LeeJ
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1 posted 2005-01-19 11:40 AM


yes, but then, there is this voice which says...hey...kiddo, get your act together and get on with it...so, me being the fighter I am, energize in another place...laying whatever bothers me, to rest...oh, sometimes the emotions run a roller coaster ride, but hey...what would life be without those little demons on our shoulders...just brush em off...hehe

Hugs for a good write...love ya

Susan
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2 posted 2005-01-19 12:06 PM


Ah Lee - thanks for the love and the kind heart - still - I sometimes wonder why it is when things are really not so bad I can feel so incredibly sad - ah well - this too shall pass - perhaps when the sun returns to the sky and warmth blankets my world with flowers and leaves and birds and things -

Love ya - and hugs -  Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

Martie
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3 posted 2005-01-19 01:33 PM


Hi Susan...yes, I've felt this way....and I don't like the feeling!  For me many times it is weather related.  Wishing you a springtime within!  
Susan
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4 posted 2005-01-19 01:35 PM


Ah, Martie - I was just thinking the same thing - gray days, chill, sleet, icy rain - what's nice about that?  Thanks dear -

  Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

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5 posted 2005-01-19 03:04 PM


got hugs and a sun lamp
come on down baby..

I can relate though
between the prozac and the viagra
it is hard to decide
what mood I am in

enjoyed the poem

hey who dat in the pic
where did nurse betty go? (grin)



Susan
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6 posted 2005-01-19 03:14 PM


Hehe - gotta fix that pic, it stretched to fit the format and now even I'm afraid when I see it - oy!

I'll take you up on the sun lamp - be there in a few

Thanks D -   Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

DavePage
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7 posted 2005-01-19 03:24 PM


Yes.  Usually when you have achieved something and wonder what the next target should be.

Dave

Honeybunch
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8 posted 2005-01-19 03:29 PM


"I sometimes wonder why it is when things are really not so bad I can feel so incredibly sad"

Sometimes when that happens it could be that you are picking up the emotion from someone else.  It happens if one is somewhat empathetic by nature.  Otherwise, yes, I think most people have experienced the depression you describe so well. Fortunately most of us snap to attention with the dawning of a new day or new attitude.

RSWells
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9 posted 2005-01-19 03:33 PM


Do you refer to that constant howling in the land with the stuck season? Yes, I know this, even have come to embrace it. (but easily half of my ill winds have come from the south and doubtless there are those who think the north wind's from my mouth)

I like the new photo. Just the right amount of bemused arrogance with a twinge of pretty pride.

Poets against the war is redundant

JL
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10 posted 2005-01-19 04:06 PM


Very nice write.

JL


RobertB
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11 posted 2005-01-19 04:19 PM


Yes....unfortunately.

Yet......so did Van Gogh, Dylan, Sexton, Plath, Hemingway and on and on.
Here read this:
Creativity, Depression and Suicide Prevention



For several centuries, stories of famous painters, writers and musicians who were depressed and took their lives made people wonder. Only in the last 25 years has scientific evidence demonstrated that creative people are more vulnerable to depression and suicide, regardless of whether or not they become famous. More research is needed to determine which:

Patients suffering from depressive or manic depressive disorders are most vulnerable to suicide
Treatments will control the disorder without interfering with the artists’ ability to create.  
Throughout history artists, writers and musicians have seemed to suffer disproportionately from mood disorders. Only recently has research concluded that a high percentage of artists — both past and contemporary — have, in fact, suffered from affective illness, particularly manic-depressive disorder.  

Treatment of major depressive illness in artists has presented unique problems; partly because of a concern that creativity and the disorder are so intertwined that treatment might destroy the artists’ unique talent.  

By supporting study of current approaches to treatment, the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention hopes to encourage the development of new options for today’s creators, options unfortunately unavailable for yesterday’s greats.


I just figure I am in good company!!

No Prozac for me.

Robert


Susan
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12 posted 2005-01-19 04:44 PM


thank you friends for all the encouragement and insights.  Robert B - thanks for the information - and the intellectual part of me understands all this - and I cope, as do we all - but some days I just have to express the feelings of struggling uphill so often - but the good thing is, when things are good, they are very very good - and so many experiences are much more intense than more balanced people experience -

and you are right - am in good company and it helps to have friends to share with and to encourage -

Hugs all - and thank you very much -

Love - Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

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13 posted 2005-01-19 05:59 PM


Yes, for a long time it has been so, but the sun is coming out, it always does.
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14 posted 2005-01-19 06:55 PM


I love the new pic!
Nice write...

~Alli~

Happy 2005!

Magnus
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15 posted 2005-01-19 08:26 PM


To answer simply....would be to say yes
to all of the above.  If depression were
proportionate to creativity....well,  some
of our masters might not hold a candle to
me a few years past.

Our creativity is what, in my humble op.
helps us through those moments....the letting
out of certain feelings...and the subsequent
dealing with them after the cards are on
the table.

Susan,  you are in a good place...and you
are on the right path.

Huan Yi
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16 posted 2005-01-19 08:37 PM



"Otherwise" by Jane Kenyon
Publisher:  Graywolf Press
ISBN 1555972667

Also remember what Chekhov said:

“Any idiot can rise to a crisis.  It’s this day to day living
that grinds you down.”


RobertB
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17 posted 2005-01-19 08:40 PM


Hugs to you Susan....I am so glad you can write about it.

I think.....maybe that is what many cannot or have not done and it did them in.

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18 posted 2005-01-19 09:36 PM



why?

cause i can't catch my rainbow long enough
and must wait to meet him again in heaven

Ratleader
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19 posted 2005-01-20 12:31 PM


....don't....ponder.....
    don't
    don't
             ponder

Only makes it worse, you know....

...you KNOW.


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______________Ratleader______________

Susan
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20 posted 2005-01-20 01:56 AM


You all warm my heart so very much - I feel inadequate in my ability to express how much your kind words mean - thank you -

and Ratleader - you are right - to focus upon a problem is to increase its ability to recreate itself into a more intense form - or so the Dali Lahma says -

it's just hard sometimes to remember what the intellect knows when the emotions get the better of you -

writing it out does ease the ache, and having friends as all of you are, it makes the gray less bleak -  

thank you again - love you all - Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

ThisDiamond
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21 posted 2005-01-20 08:38 AM


Keep your chin up girl.
The weather (whether) changes frequently all through life...what is down today, will be up tomorrow.
Hang in there!
TD

LeeJ
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22 posted 2005-01-20 09:14 AM


take Van Gogh for instance...if you look back into his history, is it any wonder he became a slave to depression...he was banned not only from society but also from his fathers home b/c he chose to be an artist.

How can one be sensitive (and yes, it is in the genes) but if one has not experienced misery, sorrow, despair...then how could one be sensitive to the needs of others, or be compassionate?

My point is, artists are much more sensitive then most...and I betcha if we looked back into the history of these folks, and us to...we've got a lot of notches on our belts.

Oh, yes, at a very young age, I was indeed very perceptive/sensitive already then, detached myself from society...it was my choice, I wanted to....

I don't take any meds other then natural stuff...although perhaps sometimes you may wonder, teehee

Susan...without those empty sad feelings....how would we truly know joy...and embrace it?  To be honest, and this might sound a little weird, but I love that feeling way deep down in side, that emptiness, sort of meloncoly bittersweet saddness....??????  It's a quiet quality time of mine for soul searching and peace.

Embrace all of life's emotions Susan, for there is rhyme and reason to everything...

I think????

Love ya

Susan
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23 posted 2005-01-20 12:28 PM


TD - thanks dear - hugs

LeeJ - yes, I have walked this path for years and years - since very young - luckily I was well loved at home as a child - but the sensativity made life difficult sometimes at school - but growing up with five brothers rather toughens one

Love you both - and thanks so much for the open arms -

  Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

Daniel J D
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24 posted 2005-01-20 06:16 PM


Look at life now not yesterday. Make the most of what you have.

Respond to my call and let the waves of my heart fill your life with the wonders of love
(Daniel J D)

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25 posted 2005-01-20 07:43 PM


good write
Susan
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26 posted 2005-01-20 09:39 PM


Daniel - it is the now that i see - the yesterdays are but memories - i look around me and i wonder sometimes - too much pain to see, to know - uncertainty - death - sorrow -it surrounds me at this point in my life - today, now, in this moment - but still i do my best to stand and to see the good things, and there are good things - many, many - look at the hearts of the people here on PIP - they are incredible - thanks for your reply

Vandana - thanks dear

Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

Robert Frazier
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27 posted 2005-01-21 09:17 AM


who knows how long that wind will blow?
but it will stop . . . thank God for wind-brake-friends, poets and hope.  you write truth, and well.

Hugs,
Rf

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28 posted 2005-01-21 09:34 AM


oh yes


Susan
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29 posted 2005-01-21 10:15 AM


Thank you Robert - most kind -

Dixie - yes, you know -

Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

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30 posted 2005-01-22 12:11 PM


Hi Susan. This sadness you write of and I are old bed fellows. Long have we been wedded together. There are days I too can not pull myself out of the (funk) as I so lovingly name it. Thank goodness they are far and few between...but when they do come I just let them wash through me. I accept all the hurt and it comes out in my writing. It makes for the best poetry...even if the moderators do cut the links sometimes. LOL! (Speaking from experience on that one.) Enough on this though...what I wanted to say is this poem is beautiful. It just rends at my heart. Bravo dear friend.

Remember, if you're not part of the future, you're history!

Susan
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31 posted 2005-01-22 12:42 PM


Thank you so much, dear Kevin.  I think sometimes I just ponder to much.  I am sorry you know the sorrow too, but am glad you've found an effective way of coping.  It does make for really inspired poetry, though, huh?  When I'm really happy - well, sometimes then the emotions don't flow and the words do not follow.  

Hugs - and love -   Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

iliana
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32 posted 2005-01-22 12:44 PM


Susan, I just want to hug you.  Sad poem, but your wonderful way with words still shines.  Mood swings are okay.....just don't let yourself stay there, okay?   .....jo
Susan
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33 posted 2005-01-22 12:49 PM


Ah, Jo - thank you dear.  Actually, I am feeling much more positive these past two days - letting go of the worry for now - after all, it solves nothing.  I think too, sometimes it just descends uninvited and you have to kick it out and lock the door

Hugs -   Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

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34 posted 2005-01-24 01:59 PM


Yes... so often I could call it friend... if I didn't know it to be enemy. *S*
Susan
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35 posted 2005-01-24 02:45 PM


I like that concept - yes, I would have to agree -

Susan

If I wander far enough, long enough, will I finally know . . .

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