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Gifted
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0 posted 2007-06-28 04:27 PM



Now can anybody here tell me who they are?  I'm not talking about descriptive words or what you do for a living, or your job/career.  None of that is who you are.  I'm talking about going deeper.  REALLY, WHO ARE YOU?!  Really think about it.  Don't worry because I don't know who I am either.

I don not want something like this:

Hey I'm Bill from North Carolina, I'm 33 years old, and live with my wife and kids.

I do not want nothing like that.

Peace. Love. Forgiveness.
  Blessings and Guidance

© Copyright 2007 Jonathan - All Rights Reserved
serenity blaze
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1 posted 2007-06-28 04:58 PM


Hello again.



I'm having a mid-life crisis. (I hope it is a mid-life crisis, 'cause that means I will live until I am 92.) Because of this mid-life crisis, I'm having difficulty defining myself outside of my various designated roles.

Good question though--and I have found that it is the "easy" questions which can be hardest to answer.

"I don't know" works for me though. ALOT.


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2 posted 2007-06-28 05:12 PM


who am I?
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3 posted 2007-06-28 05:15 PM


quote:
"I don't know" works for me though. ALOT.



See what I mean?

(couldn't resist, Mz. D!)



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4 posted 2007-06-28 05:17 PM


many hugs to you!!!
dear lady  SB, who are you????


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5 posted 2007-06-28 05:22 PM


I love that song. I once saw The Who in concert and Roger Daltrey jogged in place while singing a twenty minute rendition and never missed a note.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JgQqnzdVqJk

A Welcome gift for you, Gifted and of course, Mz. D!  

(A shorter version--the guys are older--as am I, alas )


Drauntz
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6 posted 2007-06-28 05:26 PM


Thank you. very cool.



Edward Grim
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7 posted 2007-06-28 05:40 PM


I'm a ball of problems and a basket of cases.

“Well all the apostles, they’re sittin’ on the swings, sayin’ I’d sell off my savior for a set of new rings.”

Gifted
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8 posted 2007-06-28 06:13 PM


So nobody can tell me who they are?  Finding out who I am is huge for me.  I even wrote a poem about it.  It's posted on the "Teen Poerty" forum.

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9 posted 2007-06-28 06:15 PM


Gifted -- if you don't know who you are how do you know that you're not me?
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10 posted 2007-06-28 06:31 PM


"I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together."

The Beatles, naturally!

The name's Karen. I am (apparently) scoring the musical themes for Pip today!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=0yNcE8c3j2M

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11 posted 2007-06-28 07:16 PM


I think people spend far too much time defining themselves instead of enjoying who they are.

I am me. I need no more than that... nor should anyone else.

Edward Grim
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12 posted 2007-06-28 07:17 PM


The only way I can find out who I am is to determine who I'm not. It's purely based on deductive reasoning. So I walk around pointing at people who are not me.

Otherwise I might think I'm Reb and run around screaming for a tie.  




“Well all the apostles, they’re sittin’ on the swings, sayin’ I’d sell off my savior for a set of new rings.”

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13 posted 2007-06-28 07:18 PM


Hey Reb - _I_ know I'm not you because I could never grow that cool moustache and beard... it would itch far too much.
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14 posted 2007-06-28 07:19 PM


Hey Chris! What the hell man?! You can't be me; I'm me... EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!

“Well all the apostles, they’re sittin’ on the swings, sayin’ I’d sell off my savior for a set of new rings.”

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15 posted 2007-06-28 07:46 PM


I'm sorry Christopher, but Local Rebel is unavailable to comment right now.

Please enjoy this musical selection while you wait:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cizyr3cxdEY




(I really need a head-banging smilie)

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16 posted 2007-06-28 09:04 PM


Dear SB, is Local Rebel related to you?

I shall be careful when I post to him next time.

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17 posted 2007-06-28 09:10 PM


quote:
"I don't know" works for me though. ALOT.


Worked for my Dad too.

Navy man.



------------------------------->zip

ducking Christopher!

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18 posted 2007-06-28 09:20 PM


How do you know that I'm not Serenity?

and... I am unavailable to post because I'm performing a purification ritual to a shrine of Euclid.

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19 posted 2007-06-28 09:23 PM


I'm Euclid.
rwood
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20 posted 2007-06-28 09:32 PM


Somebody


Kit McCallum
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21 posted 2007-06-28 09:33 PM


ROFL!

God I've missed you guys, lololol.

Gifted, I'm glad you started this. I'm cracking up reading this. Too funny.

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22 posted 2007-06-28 09:35 PM


With this and one of the other threads, I surmise the philosophic pipsters just needed to let off some steam, and have a silly-fest?


Stephen.

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23 posted 2007-06-28 09:43 PM


My dear SB, at the backyard?

or Local Rebel, how is your hair?  Lady SB has good hairs. She can't be you.

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24 posted 2007-06-28 09:51 PM


Huh?

Hmmm.

I saw a flock of chickens today, as I walked to the drug store, here in the suburbs of the Greater New Orleans Metro area.

Yesterday, Louisiana was the last state in the union to ban cockfighting.

Y'think there's a connection?


And HEY--that made as much sense as everything else in this thread...

*blink*

Didn't it?

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25 posted 2007-06-28 09:56 PM


Lady SB, this is tooooo much for one day.


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26 posted 2007-06-28 10:00 PM


I know.

I am...beside myself.

Perhaps, so Gifted doesn't think us horribly rude, someone could introduce her to the "I AM" poetry challenge.

Seems like that might be a good idea about now.

My humble apologies, Gifted.

As Stephanos noted, we've all been a little tense lately and we apparently have a case of the sillies.

*ahem*

mea culpa

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27 posted 2007-06-28 10:01 PM


Frivolity 101?
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28 posted 2007-06-28 10:03 PM


Ron,

Just wanted to tell you (this is as good a place as any) that my "Atlas Shrugged" came in today.  You're going to have to give me a while on this one.  It looks as thick as War and Peace.  You definitely got the easier part of the deal.  

When I get done then we can post a thread titled "The abolition of 'Atlas Shrugged'", or perhaps "'The abolition of Man' Shrugged".  


Stephen.

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29 posted 2007-06-28 10:08 PM


I'm at the point where I think Atlas needed to Shrug!

getting pinched nerves and such!

OY...

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30 posted 2007-06-28 10:21 PM


For Gifted, and everybody else except Christopher, who is rightfully enjoying himself-- <--huh? huh?

*laughing*

Here's the "I Am" poetry template:

"I AM"

I am (two special characteristics you have)
I wonder (something you are actually curious about)
I hear (an imaginary sound)
I see (an imaginary sight)
I want (an actual desire)
I am (the first line of the poem repeated)

I pretend (something you actually pretend to do)
I feel (a feeling about something imaginary)
I touch (an imaginary touch)
I worry (something that really bothers you)
I cry (something that makes you very sad)
I am (the first line of the poem repeated)

I understand (something you know is true)
I say (something you believe in)
I dream (something you actually dream about)
I try (something you really make an effort about)
I hope (something you actually hope for)
I am (the first line of the poem repeated)

* * *

Due credit given to the originator of this Pip tradition in the Poetry Challenge thread, um, Alicat! *eg*


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31 posted 2007-06-28 11:31 PM


The "I AM" poem again?

I read my first and ONLY submission for that and have the horror of realizing I haven't progressed at all.

That is who I am, Gifted.  The same person I have always been, just missing a few organs now... (that was for Karen's entertainment, it's okay to snort).

meh...good thing I am okay with who I am.

"too bad ignorance isn't painful"
~Unknown~

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32 posted 2007-06-28 11:53 PM


k - you and angels have about as much in common as Bush and logic (sorry, Mike, couldn't help it).

I always enjoy myself... even when I'm bored. It's just one of the perks of being me.

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33 posted 2007-06-29 12:06 PM


Angels are merely messengers.

Don't shoot 'em, C.

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34 posted 2007-06-29 12:15 PM


I am unique, and here ya go Karanity

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35 posted 2007-06-29 01:01 AM


Mayn, what did you guys turn this into?  LOL.  I leave for a couple seconds and this is what I come to find.  DANG!!  Well I know I am me, but then who is "me"?  Eveybody wants to be themselves... well almost everybody, but how can you be yourself if you don't know who you are?   You need to think deeper about this.

Peace. Love. Forgiveness.
  Blessings and Guidance

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36 posted 2007-06-29 01:30 AM


Gifted

"but how can you be yourself if you don't know who you are?   You need to think deeper about this."

I got you logic.
1. first to Know who I am...learn knowledge first.
2. then based on the knowledge about me so I can be myself.

where shall I learn about myself?
1. from others....scary
2. from myself...how?

who is "myself"?
"myself" is who I am. but I can be who I am because I have no knowledge of myself based on your statement.


not something like
1. first be myself...follow my own brain and my own senses and my own judgment.
2. then to learn who I am. (?)


truth and knowledge

truth comes before knowledge or knowledge comes before truth?

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37 posted 2007-06-29 02:33 AM


And still yet--forgetting all of that--*glare*--I'd like to leave you, Gifted one, with one more bit of music--most apt, I do believe, suiting the manner in which you were received:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFhDfGwbys

DREAM SWEET DRAUNTZ. *laughing*

and ~welcome~, Gifted!

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38 posted 2007-06-29 03:40 AM


Gifted?

Another answer to the challenge (most of us have a written a few of these, but I still think it is a great way to find the answers to your question.)

So I offer you a new one from me, and I do hope to read yours soon.
/pip/Forum103/HTML/003737.html

I sincerely hope we didn't scare you off--we don't generally "haze" new members, but you took it so well, so...thank you!

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39 posted 2007-06-29 09:08 AM


Oh nah, it's cool.  Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.  However, I know this is a journey I have to embark on by myself

Peace. Love. Forgiveness.
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40 posted 2007-06-29 09:48 AM


quote:
With this and one of the other threads, I surmise the philosophic pipsters just needed to let off some steam, and have a silly-fest?


Yeah, you're welcome.

“Well all the apostles, they’re sittin’ on the swings, sayin’ I’d sell off my savior for a set of new rings.”

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41 posted 2007-06-29 09:57 AM


"Cogitas ergo sum"

"Live free in the world and owe allegiance to no man"

Edward Grim
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42 posted 2007-06-29 10:25 AM


"Welcome to the jungle" hahaha, Karen you crack me up.

“Well all the apostles, they’re sittin’ on the swings, sayin’ I’d sell off my savior for a set of new rings.”

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43 posted 2007-06-29 10:33 AM


quote:
God I've missed you guys, lololol.


Did someone call me?

I am.

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44 posted 2007-06-29 12:16 PM


My dear lady SB, can't dream well when something bungles my thought.

have a wonderful day.

saw you poem...have to read it.
bye here.

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45 posted 2007-06-29 08:55 PM


Gifted,
Just to acknowledge the point, your question is not an easy one to answer. And most of us have struggled our way through and grown into the answer(a long time ago). But to go as "deep" as you have suggested is not always a public forum answer. And secondly for some of us it could require a lot of space to answer. I'm available for emails on the subject in the event you are serious.

In the mean time you just as well lay claim to a really rockin' fun thread.

Peace...

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane,
I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

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46 posted 2007-06-30 11:43 PM


I'm glad I made a fun thread.  

Now, you said that some of you grew into your answers, but some people pass away, and don't even get to find out who they were.  However, I know finding out who I am is a journey I must complete on my own.

Peace. Love. Forgiveness.
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47 posted 2007-07-01 02:53 AM


I ween that you know who you are.  You just don't know how to say it.
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48 posted 2007-07-01 05:26 PM


.


I am not I
by Juan Ramon Jimenez

http://swearercenter.brown.edu/poetry/lessons/details.php?lesson_id=10


.

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49 posted 2007-07-01 05:35 PM


Hi, gifted, there are many forms...all kinds of to evaluate oneself or something like self-finding topic. Do you like to answer all those kind questions to find out who you are or what kind of ability you have?


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50 posted 2007-07-01 06:09 PM


.


How very different this Western pursuit of apart self
from the Eastern quest for non-distinction.  


.

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51 posted 2007-07-01 06:24 PM


I believe that western and eastern are all the same.... all self-interest!!!
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52 posted 2007-07-01 06:33 PM


Well, I'm not a ween-er like Essorant but, Yes, I know who I am but I'm sworn to secrecy!
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53 posted 2007-07-01 11:56 PM


Well Drauntz, I don't know about any forms, I just want to know who I am.  Simple as dat, however, it's not that simple.

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Edward Grim
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54 posted 2007-07-02 03:50 PM


quote:
I just want to know who I am.


What exactly do you mean? There are certain things that define us but we don't need them to know who we are. Yes, Van Gogh was a painter; but take away his paint brush and he was still Van Gogh. It's all about the inner life, the life of the mind, not your occupation or your style or your name or any of that stuff.

And if you're completely confused by your inner life as we all have been at one point or another, then introduce you to yourself. Seriously. Get a piece of paper and pencil and write down all your beliefs.

Do I believe in Santa Claus?
Do I believe in God?
Do I like the color red?
Can I spell antidisestablishmentarianism?
Do I know the long-term effects of silicone dust on the lungs?
Am I conservative or liberal? Republican, Democrat or nonpartisan?
What's my favorite subject in school? What's my favorite pastime?
Where do I want to go in life? Where don't I want to go in life?
What do I want or don't want? Need and don't need?
Why do I wear red socks instead of white socks?
Who am I?

After you've pondered all your questions, you'll probably end up with an answer like Chris's: "I am me."


Or you could just think about it the way I do: I figure I'm probably not the type of person I want to hang out with, so I don't bother knowing myself.

“Well all the apostles, they’re sittin’ on the swings, sayin’ I’d sell off my savior for a set of new rings.”

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55 posted 2007-07-03 12:03 PM



For me, the answer to your question lies along this pathway:
/main/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayarchive&number=92&topic=003682
/pip/Forum103/HTML/000792.html

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56 posted 2007-07-06 12:35 PM


I AM ... that which is when "I" is not.

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