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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state 
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When will we ever learn? It has been argued that as long as we are in this condition there will be no release from the cycle of those who predicate peace yet wave war-heads behind their backs man's duplicity is inherent, many say. Humanity can keep this duality to itself yet I have to watch as new conflicts spawn out of old ones and see enemies that once fought become allies only to unite and pitch their efforts against others, against others little do they see they sew the seeds of resentment and anguish for lack of better ways than destruction and decimation. The world has not gone 'crazy' it has always been this way critics will chirp there have always been conflicts and man has escaped somehow, somewhere but still we have not learned... this cannot go on forever. |
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Lady In White
since 2001-02-12
Posts 2799USA |
Poets throughout time have written of the auspices, and consequences of war. Every anthology should carry with it some piece of "time of writing" and hopefully, will be read over and over, in more peaceful times...thank you Ecrivan... |
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Nan
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-20
Posts 21191Cape Cod Massachusetts USA |
Your words ring true, ecrivan... Indeed...  |
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Mistletoe Angel 
since 2000-12-17
Posts 32816Portland, Oregon |
 sad sigh) But at this rate it just might and then before we know it we are all lying motionless in the water when the floodgates open and no one is living and God is just bowing His head in shame that He created this world for us all but the toothache was always there in the cavities of order! (big hugggsssssss) I pray this won't happen and someday the world together can come to an understanding, and in starting so I support your thoughts and wish for these to be in the next publication, you have my vote, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, sweet Martin, thank you for sharing!  May love and light always shine upon you! Love, Noah Eaton "Underneath your clothes there's an endless story..." |
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Andrew Scott Member Elite
since 1999-06-24
Posts 2558Redlands,CA,USA |
Indeed... this cannot go on forever. |
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Sunnyone Member Ascendant
since 2000-07-06
Posts 5334Staffordshire, England |
History repeats itself, but why must it do it so soon? Yes, this tells the truth, the sad truth, and the voice in your words must be heard. Excellent write! Accept these small gifts from my gypsy soul, and let the magik happen! ~~S~~ |
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garysgirl
since 2002-09-29
Posts 19237Florida, USA |
Very excellent write ... |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Sunnyone it is to soon I think too...I am so aware of the repetition and so unaware of what it would be like to live in a country devasted by a halocaust...thank you for replying  [This message has been edited by ecrivan (02-17-2003 08:14 PM).] |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Hello Andrew, And yet my write is intended for the irony of events which pits the consequences of 'actions of self-defence' against a region known already to have parlayed repercussions all around the globe. I think the root lies in integrating minority groups better in every multicultural nation. |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Lady in White, And timely this is..intended for those who seek to get above the immediate use of force and work within societies.like we would want to work within the family to avoid 'parental abuse' rather than having a policeman ringing your doorbell...to enforce rules |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Hello Nan and Noah, The rate of learning is so much slower than the rate of childbirth I'm afraid my dear Noah..and by that I mean by the time we in the 'west' have reconciled our differences with a regional population there are so many other millions of inhabitants who come into being and have never been a part of any peacemaking initiative, and they learn the law of the street, hating the occupier or being suspicious of 'foreign' presence ....we cannot say that status quo for peace at any moment is good forever..it must be modified as populations expand, migrate and evolve...this is where much of the weakness in humanity lies and it perculates into our assumption that political lines permanately defines populational needs and expectations....so lets continue to transmit the need for a peaceful solution without the use of force. [This message has been edited by ecrivan (02-17-2003 08:38 PM).] |
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Larry C
since 2001-09-10
Posts 10286United States |
Martin, Yup, the end will come...eventually. A vote for the man with a very active social conscience.  If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again. |
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Local Parasite
since 2001-11-05
Posts 2527Transylconia, Winnipeg |
We can only hope. Well, that's not exactly true... we can more than just hope, we can become active. The voice of art is a powerful one, and it's good of you to speak out like this. Hopefully we will find a solution to our problems before we wipe out all life on this planet. Sure it has always been this way. But one thing that hasn't always been this way is the capability we have to destroy. As that increases, war will be more and more devastating, until finally there's nobody to fight anymore... It's really sad... I wish there were some way to change things, but I doubt it's going to happen. Parasite "Faith" means the will to avoid knowing what is true. |
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hoot_owl_rn Member Patricius
since 1999-07-05
Posts 10750Glen Hope, PA USA |
Oh, I sometimes wonder if we will ever learn. The sand will run out long before that point I'm sure |
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Earth Angel Member Empyrean
since 2002-08-27
Posts 40215Realms of Light |
As usual, your words provoke thought and by your replies, your readers were thinking! May the sands of time, turn the tide... Linda |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Hi Nancy, thanks for sharing and you did notice a more 'independent' choice of words from the PM...at least to throw in the idea of respecting multiculturalism  |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Hi Linda, Sometimes I think it's good to provoke the reader...there is much on love issues here, why not a mention on what can hurt us more |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
My friend owl, ah yes pessimism..I think we're clearly on the way to future proliferation and then? |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Parasite, I wish there were 'real' changes rather than allusions I fill my poems with...your opinion is appreciated and I too am sad of the consequences that face people we bring into the world. |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Larry, you gave an approoriate 'title' and the forums can always be assured of some address or another regarding a current issue or something we've always been faced with but never wanted to discuss [This message has been edited by ecrivan (02-19-2003 12:16 AM).] |
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Justbleu Member Elite
since 1999-08-31
Posts 3329Oregon, Originally From Alaska :) |
Craziness isn't it!!!! Very nice!!!! Bridgette |
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suthern
since 1999-07-29
Posts 20723Louisiana |
Please believe me when I say it doesn't mean I was taking your words lightly... quite the contrary. *S* But even before I reached the end, I was humming "Where Have All the Flowers Gone?" and wondering if it's even possible for us to learn enough to stop the repetition. Very good write!! |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Hi Suthern, Sorry your first line is unclear to me..I don't think about what other poets think, whether this is good or bad as much as I think about us sailing into shark infested seas..and where do we find the lifeboats if the ship capsizes?Appreciate your sharing of ideas Yes Bridgette, yes humans can be quite something, can't they? [This message has been edited by ecrivan (02-21-2003 07:34 PM).] |
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Mysteria
since 2001-03-07
Posts 18328British Columbia, Canada |
Are you sure there are lifeboats? This was a great piece for ponding and I don't know how i missed you Ecrivan, great write. |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Thanks Mysteria, it' so easy to slide down from morning to afternoon..you know...I don't know about the boats...makes me think that here we are on a global titanic..with too few lifeboats available,,thanks for clicking in |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
I do hope this makes it into the book, to give the anthology a historical sense of time...thank you, Ecrivan... |
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Enchantress Member Empyrean
since 2001-08-14
Posts 35113Canada eh. |
Very well done Martin! ~Hugs from another Canadian~ ~ Trace my body with your words.. |
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Greeneyes
since 2000-09-09
Posts 9903In Your Poetic Mind |
Interesting use of words "as the sands run out" indeed thought provoking.....Great Job Sir! Lauren~ Here I am |
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SPIRIT Senior Member
since 2002-12-29
Posts 1745California Desert |
Excellent! |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Karilea, To give the book an historical sense yes because there has never been a confrontation of this sort. The biggest threat to world peace is in upsetting those moderate regimes who have so far supported American involvement in the gulf region and who have large islamic populations. |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Lauren When the sabres rattle I do get a feeling that there are many issues that America has overlooked in the MidEast particularly. I can understand their need to protect their interests but it is the scale of involvement which has me worried. [This message has been edited by ecrivan (03-18-2003 11:59 PM).] |
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dgvarner Member Elite
since 2000-05-13
Posts 3552High Springs, Florida |
"but still we have not learned..." sadly, we may never learn..but, you're right, this cannot go on forever...there will be a better day ...soon  hugs, g "laughter is the shortest distance between two people" - victor borge |
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Justbleu Member Elite
since 1999-08-31
Posts 3329Oregon, Originally From Alaska :) |
Bump.... "Somewhere, somehow, it should be possible to touch someone and never let go again. To hold someone, not for a moment but forever." Unknown |
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Joyce Johnson
since 2001-03-10
Posts 9912Washington State |
Good peice and I am happy to vote. Joyce |
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Joyce Johnson
since 2001-03-10
Posts 9912Washington State |
Good piece and I am happy to vote. Joyce |
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kaile
since 2000-02-06
Posts 5146singapore |
sorry i came late...my vote is cast for this emotionally-charged, yet unoffensive piece...the much food of thought factor is another plus |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
dgvarner, Thanks for sharing.I don't see Iraqis waving American flags, unfortunately..and although some who have been televised are pleased that their oppressors are vanquished, they didn't go into thin air...so for that better day? that remains the challenge of the new millenium |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
kaile, Tried to be as unoffensive as could be |
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Justbleu Member Elite
since 1999-08-31
Posts 3329Oregon, Originally From Alaska :) |
Bump.... "Somewhere, somehow, it should be possible to touch someone and never let go again. To hold someone, not for a moment but forever." Unknown |
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passing shadows Member Empyrean
since 1999-08-26
Posts 45577displaced |
I remember this one Martin...a very thought-provoking piece. |
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passing shadows Member Empyrean
since 1999-08-26
Posts 45577displaced |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
Passing Shadow, You're a great sport in bumping this up for me and that allows others who don't go to far down the postings to read...this is still applicable as it seems now that there is a new squaring off of forces in the Mid-East. |
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