Open Poetry #20 |
Beyond the fire |
Silver Streak Member Elite
since 2002-01-02
Posts 3625FL, USA |
Beyond the fire. "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!" NIV Luke 12:49 Is there a site where I could post? Where hell is cold compare to me As I dig deep beyond the ghost Destroy all limits people see. For truth demands I show all lewd To rip apart with stark white light Sick words so crude as I write nude. Beyond all limits in my fight. Behaviors God could not look on Burn evil man's cold eyes with glee I'll slay the Queen; kill ev'ry pawn Bishops, Rooks and Knights that be. Dissolve the King without a mate As truth shines light on man's mistake Purge all censors in deadly fate And call all spirits. Come! Now wake! Is there a site where I can post My poetry, too hot to roast. Beyond the fire. Copyright: Newell Elsworth Usher Silver Streak of Silver Springs, Florida April 28, 2002 Sharing God's Love through perfectlovepoetry.com |
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Casanova Junior Member
since 1999-06-21
Posts 48Mays Landing NJ |
Silver I think you are n the pefect place to post you poetry! keep it up |
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Silver Streak Member Elite
since 2002-01-02
Posts 3625FL, USA |
Thank you, Casanova. ((Casanove)) -newell Sharing God's Love through perfectlovepoetry.com |
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Greeneyes
since 2000-09-09
Posts 9903In Your Poetic Mind |
. LC~ [This message has been edited by Greeneyes (04-29-2002 01:59 PM).] |
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Silver Streak Member Elite
since 2002-01-02
Posts 3625FL, USA |
A slap? No, of course not, Lauren. That would be abuse thinking. And I'm sure you know how passionately I hate abuse. When Passions wants to restrict posting to protect innocent children for concerned parents, I consider that comendable. This is a companion poem to one I wrote in November, 2000, "I'll go there just for you". Well, after I write poetry to illuminate truth about ev'ry side of every deep dark hidden secret, where do I post it. Just barely scratching the surface has drawn fire and brimstone from all sides, academia, religious fanatics and political fanatics. And I am banned from posting at some places and have been warned and chastised brutally at others. So I ask where can I post poetry, beyond the fire. Where it can be seen? Just a little poetic question, not aimed specifically at anyone. ((Lauren)) -newell I'll go there just for you By Newell Usher Some say I sin, when I write my poetry But from within without a floor, without a ceiling I'm just calling you to just take God's true healing Throughout the earth destroying all man's dearth Through God's perfect love I pass on to thee from God above. Now God made Satan a perfect Angel in heaven above Then sent him as the devil to earth to teach us how to love His job is to divert all the weak and cause much hurt So we will grow, begin to seek God's perfect glow, give up that being weak. Take freedom from our God and use it through our path to sod And God called me to write his Perfect Love poetry. And what they say I should not write Then I know there's a dark, dark night And so I'll write about it just for you Bring day to night; take out that misleading air Just set it right, 'tis only fair Because God called me this to do, I'll go there just for you. Copyright: Newell Elsworth Usher Silver Streak of Silver Springs, Florida November 13, 2000 Sharing God's Love through perfectlovepoetry.com Copyright: 2002 Newell Elsworth Usher [This message has been edited by Silver Streak (04-29-2002 01:36 PM).] |
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Greeneyes
since 2000-09-09
Posts 9903In Your Poetic Mind |
. Lauren~ ~Sinking fast into an ocean of you, what if I told you, what if I said that I love you do we dare cross that line between your heart and mine~ [This message has been edited by Greeneyes (04-29-2002 03:12 PM).] |
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Christopher
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-02
Posts 8296Purgatorial Incarceration |
First: there is a difference between censoring someone (you) and making a place comfortable and safe for a lot of other people. From my point of view (and this is purely personal, not necessarily a reflection of the other moderators here) there are times when it is not only right, but necessary to 'slap' someone (as you suggested to Lauren) for the good of the community. This doesn't mean that you don't allow them the opportunity to become PART of that community... they are always more than welcome to be part if they wish to act like part of it. It is when someone concietedly acts as if they're above the community that we have to address the issue. It's not about censorship, you see, it's about safety for a family. I'm sure you wouldn't allow someone to visit your house and make your family uncomfortable, would you? No, you'd address what they are doing that makes your family members uncomfortable. I think that's only fair. We're doing the same thing. With your visitor, you give them the opportunity to cease the behaviours that make your family uncomfortable. The only question is - will your visitor do so, or is s/he too interested in the self-importance of their own actions to notice that they're actually harming the members of the family they've come to visit? An important question, i think, because everyone has limits on their frustration, and eventually, your visitor (should they not choose to address the issues in a mature manner) is likely not to feel welcome in your house anymore. As to the other question you have (both in post and poem): If you truly, honestly want a place where there are no censorship issues, create your own website and preach from there. Christopher |
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Silver Streak Member Elite
since 2002-01-02
Posts 3625FL, USA |
Lauren, Are you aware that our words speak mainly thoughts of our own hearts to our own ears and our utterings are rarely meaningful to others unless invited. As understanding requires knowledge of the speakers heart, not mere word definitions. And when we are heard, it is usually because both people have common interests, often stemming from either love or common fears. And so, I write to the wind, for God. And let whoever feels a need for a breeze accept God's cooling in healing. Thank you for your interest in my poetry. ((Lauren)) -newel Sharing God's Love through perfectlovepoetry.com |
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Greeneyes
since 2000-09-09
Posts 9903In Your Poetic Mind |
. Lauren~ ~Sinking fast into an ocean of you, what if I told you, what if I said that I love you do we dare cross that line between your heart and mine~ [This message has been edited by Greeneyes (04-29-2002 03:11 PM).] |
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Silver Streak Member Elite
since 2002-01-02
Posts 3625FL, USA |
Christopher, I do not consider my words as preaching. I detest religious dogma and doctrine and only wish to write poetry about my own passions. I do believe in freedom of expresson for everyone, not just myself, but recognize that all sites have the right to set their own rules restricting the freedom of others. And I have a choice to post within them or leave. And at Passions I have always tried to follow the intent of your guidelines, although my understand has at times been different than yours. And a couple times I rushed to post without thinking. I'm sorry for those. And I have never protested your decisions. I am greatful for your kind professionalism. And I do try to respect all Moderators and poets at Passions. In my poetry I am not suggesting any changes. Just writing about my own passions for freedom, and understanding God, writing with visions of imagination and logic. This is not preaching! And this poem, "Beyond the fire" is not about Passions, nor was it ever! Period! Thank you for your comments. ((Christopher)) -newell Sharing God's Love through perfectlovepoetry.com Copyright: 2002 Newell Elsworth Usher [This message has been edited by Silver Streak (04-29-2002 02:44 PM).] |
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Silver Streak Member Elite
since 2002-01-02
Posts 3625FL, USA |
SS~ I dont think that issue, the issue of heart needs to be addressed here, most poets speak from their heart...it is a matter of what is and is not acceptable among the forums, a guide line in which all registered poets for this site must conform to, one you agreed to do..when you signed up..again I must say at a lack of trying not to repeat my self, your intentions may be good, but they must fall within the guidelines.....Speak your heart all you want, just do it in a fashion that is acceptable....thats just my opinion, I speak for only myself here....I think its only fair.... Lauren~ I'm sorry, I misunterstood. I thought your question was simply about me making a "Slap" at Passions. And the answer whic I gave you was a "NO!". But suddenly I'm accused as if there are many pent-up feelings of guilt being released as somehow, in ways I really don't understand, it was expected that I would make a "slap" at Passions. That there is reason in someone's mind that I think that I think that I have been treated unfairly, do to my beliefs in free writing. Nothing is further from the truth. For the truth is I have not been treated unfairly at all! I have been treated wonderfully! And I believe that I can write about any beliefs I have within Passion guidelines, without a need for any changes at Passions, whatsoever. I simply do not understand the thinking about "slapping". The word, "Slap" is so abusive and inappropriate, to my understanding. And it seems that I am being accused for a sin I did not even dream thatI was committing. But I guess this is the nature of being a follower of Christ. I love all of you. You are beautiful. Why do you think I am angry. Because I write a poem with strong emotion? With Passion? ((Lauren)) -newell Sharing God's Love through perfectlovepoetry.com |
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Greeneyes
since 2000-09-09
Posts 9903In Your Poetic Mind |
you misunderstood me completely....and I am certainely not accusing you of anything.... and for the record newell I never said you slapped passions, I asked from the poem because I did not understand your train of thought.... I had a question so I asked thats it.... Lauren~ ~Sinking fast into an ocean of you, what if I told you, what if I said that I love you do we dare cross that line between your heart and mine~ [This message has been edited by Greeneyes (04-29-2002 03:08 PM).] |
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Silver Streak Member Elite
since 2002-01-02
Posts 3625FL, USA |
Sorry, Lauren, the whole thing is one big misunderstanding. I accept total responsibility for using too many crazy words. Forgive me. ((Lauren)) -newell Sharing God's Love through perfectlovepoetry.com |
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Greeneyes
since 2000-09-09
Posts 9903In Your Poetic Mind |
all is well that ends well Lauren~ ~Sinking fast into |
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Silver Streak Member Elite
since 2002-01-02
Posts 3625FL, USA |
((Lauren)) -newell Sharing God's Love through perfectlovepoetry.com |
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