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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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(not making fun Alex---just me being goofy again) but I DO have a legitimate complaint! Hmmm...Why? *hands on hips defiantly* WHY? If y'wanna drive a car? they give you a learner's permit...but if you want to MARRY? THEY GIVE YOU A LISCENSE?) don't YOU think, there should be a learner's permit for relationships? (OH...after 25 years, I think he may have studied for the test....sigh)  FRIGGING SIGH. (serenity exits, looking for loopholes...) |
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Janet Marie Member Laureate
since 2000-01-22
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"(serenity exits, looking for loopholes...)" ROFL ... you crack me up...  "after 25 years, I think he may have studied for the test" Oh really...did they put the cliff notes on TV??????  *moth exits mumbling* ... after 25 years ya think they would JUST KNOW! yadda yadda  |
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Phaedrus Member
since 2002-01-26
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There’s a lot to be said for staying a pedestrian and getting rides off your friends when you need them. (I should mention the fact that this is only my opinion, I hold no formal qualifications apart from being happily married for two years (though actually married for sixteen  ) and I recommend any advice I give be completely ignored and treated as irrelevant on the above grounds.)[This message has been edited by Phaedrus (06-04-2002 04:55 PM).] |
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Alexia
since 2001-06-07
Posts 164Sweet And Sassy |
I dunno ... People need to learn how to make a relationship work ... Instead of depending on one person, but it takes two people to make a relationship work ... but sometimes one just does all the work. If that made any sense at all .. Alexia ¤Smile, because you never know who'z in love with it¤ |
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Larry C
since 2001-09-10
Posts 10286United States |
Karen, So what are you trying to say...? It's never too late to have a good childhood! Woohoo! |
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Sunshine
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Serene one...NO...they don't give learner's permits to parents, either.... you'd think.... hey! don't you have something you have to post?  |
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Poet deVine
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since 1999-05-26
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This is why I'll never get married again!!! |
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Janet Marie Member Laureate
since 2000-01-22
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you dont need a therapist... YOU NEED a drivers license.... then....... you can get on your bad motor scooter and RIDE .... "license"? "We dont need no stinking license"  |
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Midnitesun
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647Gaia |
Learner's permit? ROTFL. You might have a great idea there Karen. Instead of prenups about money, real property and such, howz about heart and soul agreements? Alas, they wouldn't be worth any more than the paper, so no matter what it's called, it won't keep you from getting your heart broken. But the learner's parenting permit sounds like a good idea. 2500 hours of supervised childcare, different age groups, ESPECIALLY with 2-4 yr olds and 13-16 yr olds. Poplualtion Zero could benefit.  |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY??? JUST...just...THIS!!! thank you Sharon, for this lovely loophole!  "sometimes forever should only last a few years..." |
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Ron
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since 1999-05-19
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No! No! No! … which government agency would you like to be responsible for deciding if you passed or failed the course? You think the IRS is too powerful? They only control your money. How much more powerful would they be if they held the strings to your heart and future children? |
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Sunshine
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Um, Ron, I heard, the uh, No...maybe what I was saying [not to speak for anyone else but little ol' me] is that NOW there are books for kids and marriage, but I don't remember a whole lot of them being handed out during the bridal shower when I was a, uh, bride... not that there weren't any, but what's an 18 year old looking for, anyway? Not to say that there weren't then, and aren't now, some very intelligent, sophisticated 18 year olds.... but what I WAS and AM trying to say NOW, is that I sure am trying to dish out some "hey, been there, done that, are you SURE you want to go that route" directions now and ... guess what? Kids still don't want to do anything but follow their own idea of "what can you tell me, I can make it work! philosophy... No, I don't need the tax-paid people to tell me how to make it as bad as what they're living with now...and by their own hand, yet... perhaps I should get them to move in with the kids, right? [This message has been edited by Sunshine (06-04-2002 08:50 PM).] |
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Ron
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Karilea, I hear you. While I don't think anyone should decide if we're "worthy" to get married or have kids, I have no problem at all with society deciding WHEN we should get married. Everyone will probably agree that fourteen is too young to marry. Personally, I think eighteen is too young, too. I would probably buy into twenty-one, if only because many who wait that long end up waiting another four or five years. How's thirty sound to everyone? The daughter of an acquaintance was pregnant when I arrived in Michigan five years ago, pregnant at the tender age of fourteen. Before she is considered to have enough judgement to legally drink, she'll have a kid attending school. That ain't right.  Oh, and about the books? Being something of a bookworm and something of an extremist, I pretty much devoured everything I could find when my first-born daughter made her appearance into my life. Robin still has nothing but unkind words for Dr. Spock. |
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Midnitesun
since 2001-05-18
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ROTFLMAO at your reply, Ron. I had friends who read Dr. Spock diligently as their baby grew up, and now that grownup baby thinks the old Dr. was the original "babyquacker." I don't see any books or laws that will ever be capable of stopping teenagers or determined adults from experimenting with sex, drugs, alcohol, or anything else they are determined to try. Guess we just have to keep using the basic relationship building blocks, of respect, trust, compassion, love, and lots of time and space. And poetry. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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Oh dear lord, what have I done now? I have elicited bold enlarged "No's" from this man I respect so much...sigh... story of my life... but you do know, Ron, I typed in jest of course, I am of the "less government--better governed" mode---I actually don't give a damn who thinks what of me--I'm in this trip for "personal best". Forgive me, with understanding? I bought a wedding dress last week? and I've been suffering ever since! (this is a real problem for me...total anxiety) Funny, I thought if I could get excited about the dress? everything would be alright.... (serenity exits, then enters again, then exits, PACING...) [This message has been edited by serenity (06-05-2002 01:25 AM).] |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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I came back to add---and to ask others actually--here in Louisiana there is what is called a "covenant marriage"---the couple agrees to counsel? and? it is much harder to divorce...is this a law in other states? (and NO, HELL NO...SERENITY DID NOT AGREE TO ONE OF THOSE, AND IF ANYONE SHOULD INFORM THE BF OF THIS LAW---ye shall suffer the wrath of ME!!!) (serenity exits, looking forward to med insurance, for now? she's grinding her teeth!) |
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Midnitesun
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647Gaia |
Was that coven or covenant? WOW! You bought a WWWWWedding dress? I looked at one once. It didn't seem to fit....but you never know, things happen! Stay calm, take deep breaths, twirl under the stars, and it'll be allright, 'till the mourning comes. Just kidding sis, I am keeping my best fingers crossed for you. Wow. A dress. |
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Sunshine
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30 sounds great, Ron...as for Dr. Spock...you didn't read him until the baby came, and that was my point. Neither did a lot of other parents. Of course, while Spock was in our house for "what to do in case of medical emergency"...otherwise he was used on our backsides when needed... Can I go back to 30 and try it again? I'm game... Serene one, you didn't say [or I just didn't see]...who the wedding dress is for... |
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Poet deVine
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You ever wonder why, when someone tries to 'hum' the Wedding March, that it comes out as: dumb dumb da dumb? dumb dumb da dumb? dumb dumb da dumb dumb da dumb dumb da dumb?  |
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doreen peri Member Elite
since 1999-05-25
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LOL!!!!! that's profound! i'm going to quote you hope ya don't mind, harpo! |
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Ron
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That borders on sacrilege, Sharon! Don't you realize that marriage is a wonderful institution? So, if you want to live in an institution the rest of your life … (Why do I feel we're not doing enough here to calm Karen's trepidations?) |
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Sunshine
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Ron, that's simply because... you're not! |
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Poet deVine
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Marriage is like the mumps - you only want to have it once. It causes swelling (pregnancy).... But you know, honestly, for Karen at this time I think marriage is the answer - as long as it isn't the solution....does THAT make sense? NO? Then you don't know the whole story.  |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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sigh...Sharon? I don't even know the whole story--and I've lived it!!! sigh, sigh, sigh...and now? they want to make me wear SHOES TOO--is there no end to my suffering? |
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Ron
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Sharon, it's not marriage that causes that swelling. When you finally make it to Michigan, I'll talk to your mom and have her explain it to you, okay? I make jokes about my marriages, but in all honesty, both were among the happiest times of my life. If the right person came along, I'd do it again and never even hesitate. Three is a charm, right? |
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Poet deVine
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Ron, my mother would NEVER talk to me about that sort of thing..perhaps YOU could do it? There is nothing so wonderful as falling in love and pledging your lives to each other. The hardest part about a marriage is making it last. Some people say it has to be a 50/50 proposition. Don't let them kid you. You both have to give 100%. Sometimes one of you may only be able to muster 80%, but it won't matter..together, it's STILL a higher total than most couples give. |
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Sunshine
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Yes, Ron...the third time COULD be a charm... I remember a couple, my parents' friends, who loved each other wonderfully...and then the kids came. He was at trucker, never home, they had five girls...he couldn't handle ALL the women...they separated, then divorced, he was a good dad, paid the support...after all the kids left? They remarried... and neither of them had eyes for any other the entire time of the separation... |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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Three's a charm? Hmmm...does that mean I can keep a couple of boyfriends as well? (serenity exits, LIKING that loophole!) |
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Tracey Member Elite
since 2001-08-29
Posts 2808where insanity meets breeding |
Hell, I waited til 36 to get married…still didn’t do no good. And I had 2 wedding dresses before I got married (okay, so I can be a bit indecisive !!! Lol) Lmao at deVine…how true is that???? Dum dum da dum!!! And me??? You’d have to drag me kicking and screaming to do it again….but don’t let that put you off Karen!!! Lol. seriously, I do believe that marriage can be a great thing when both want the same out of it, and love each other enough to get over the rough patches Everything is possible in the game of life |
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doreen peri Member Elite
since 1999-05-25
Posts 3812Virginia |
you know the difference between a wedding and a funeral, don't you? . . . one less drunk hehe ... hey, karen, does this thread indicate that you are moving forward in this direction because if so, you know i'd wish you the very very best !! you've had a learners permit for a while now, right? *wink* but only YOU know when yer ready to go out on the highway.... just be careful, k? use your signals wisely and pay attention to the signs.... yield, one way street, dead end, watch for falling rocks, deer crossing, no passing, slippery when wet, for example..... |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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Um...doreen? I neglected to mention? I DON'T DRIVE EITHER!!! Buses, streetcars, and taxi's...and? I CERTAINLY KNOW HOW TO WALK!!! There are moments when I feel sorry for HIM! This oughtta be interesting... |
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Phaedrus Member
since 2002-01-26
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Not trying to put you off or anything but this is the closest thing I could find with a wedding theme. I guess I just don't write 'happy' that often. Aisle Alter You I fumbled, she mumbled Apologists both Giving and taking to heart. She turned, I still yearned As she packed up her life I presume to prepare to depart. She stole my heart whole With a wink of her eye Or the curl of her smile or her kiss, Left me cried out and dry On the blade of a lie Just a fool in a pool Of my un-married bliss. Whichever way you decide to go I wish you luck and happiness. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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Thank you, Phaedrus, and Doreen, and all for your kind wishes--and I'll be okay...I just tend to get a case of "nerves" now and then....sweet of you all---and? I suppose there are worse fates than this...smile... so...until the next nervous breakdown? (serenity exits--serene...) |
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doreen peri Member Elite
since 1999-05-25
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ohhhhhh so you really are gonna do it?? wowowowowow!! that's fantastic!! i'm very happy for you!! when? |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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I think I'm just gonna take the calendar for the month of July, blindfold myself, and throw a dart! (I DO try to keep myself amused! ) For added interest, maybe I'll have HIM hold it! |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
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okay...threw the dart and missed completely...so? after iodine and peroxide? we decided that the only alternative? would be August 1... (and? we think we can save his eye....) (serenity exits, doing penance...) [This message has been edited by serenity (06-09-2002 04:15 AM).] |
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Sunshine
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Possibly a Freudian reason you'd pick one of the hottest months... let me see if I can figure it out... I'll be back! |
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Poet deVine
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August is the only month of the year that has NO cause for celebration - no special dates...nothing. But NOW it will!!!! |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
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No need to summon Freud... I was supposed to be married LAST year, on that date. (Which also happens to be LAMMAS) I spent, that day at my fiance's father's funeral,--one week after my own dad's services. WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS. smiling...last night? danced on stage with the "Shirelles" as they sang, "Going To The Chapel...---methinks? This is a 'sign' and? the end of this thread...or? stay tuned, folks!!!!! (and thank you, sharon, for remembering...love you) [This message has been edited by serenity (06-09-2002 08:43 AM).] |
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Sunshine
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Try, try again... an end to a Serenity thread? You've got to be kidding! |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
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Sudhir Iyer Member Ascendant
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Posts 6943Mumbai, India : now in Belgium |
"August is the only month of the year that has NO cause for celebration - no special dates...nothing. But NOW it will!!!!" 15th August, 1947 .... India was declared free. and Jawaharlal Nehru made one of the most famous speeches of all time... well... [This message has been edited by Sudhir Iyer (07-09-2002 10:46 AM).] |
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