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Denise
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quote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94542 |
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Ringo 
since 2003-02-20
Posts 3684Saluting with misty eyes |
Gee... that's funny... When I read 1984, I always figured the guy at the top of the food chain to be a white Republican... Silly me. Perhaps George Orwell was able to see more into the future than any of us thought, and get past the days where only white men could be elected to the White House. But this one goes to eleven... |
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Denise
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Things are feeling a bit Orwellian, that's for sure, Ringo. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803 |
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Bob K Member Elite
since 2007-11-03
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oops,apparently this message printed twice, and now won't edit out. [This message has been edited by Bob K (04-15-2009 11:19 AM).] |
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Bob K Member Elite
since 2007-11-03
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Dear Denise, I notice you are once again drawing from Worldnetdaily.com. I had a look at some of their material. I would like to make sure that they keep publishing the same stuff they are publishing, because somebody has to do it, and that's what the first amendment is all about. Does it bother you at all that these folks are telling only one side of the story, and are doing it in a highly distorted way, though? Even in relationship to other conservative news sources, they have little apparent regard for talking about verifiable facts, and on occasion actually state that they are speaking of worst case scenarios, as was the case with the article you were quoting yesterday as being descriptive of reality. As for what the Democratic plans may have been for the FCC last June, the FCC is an agency where the members are appointed by the administrative branch and only then confirmed by the senate. As far as I know the Republicans had not conceded the elected at that point, and the Democrats haven't asked for a reinstatement of the fairness doctrine. Failure to deny something is hardly the same as admitting it. Worldnet has failed, for example, to deny kidnapping the Lindbergh Baby, to firing the gun from The Grassy Knoll in Dealy Plaza, and to being responsible for crop circles. By their own reasoning, this would suggest that they are deeply involved in all three situations, whether they were in existence at the time or not, or whether the events were real or not. Since they have not actually denied being Democratic organizers, I'd like to know how they secretly managed to win the election for Obama — I mean, as long as we're following up on topics of interest. They also haven't denied being in the employ of either ACORN or the CIA, you know, so that leaves many dark dark avenues open. I can tell you, I'm spooked. Foolishly yours, Bob Kaven |
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Balladeer
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since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
Failure to deny something is hardly the same as admitting it. Your cover is blown, Bob. Obviously you have NOT read Atlas Shrugged!  |
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Bob K Member Elite
since 2007-11-03
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I read it as a sophomore in High School. It made quite an impression at the time, though I enjoyed The Fountainhead more. I remember it was about the withdrawal of all the wealthy people from society into a private enclave because the taxes were too high and they couldn't stand Democracy. I remember Ayn Rand trying to do philosophy and an endless source of oil from shale that didn't cost anything. Sure I read Atlas Shrugged, cover to cover, and enjoyed it. Then I read other things too, and enjoyed those as well. I ran into a cousin over Passover who was reading Atlas Shrugged as well, coincidentally a High School sophomore as well, and I was interested to see that same fascination for it that I remember at that age. I'm glad to see you back on the site again. I hope your back from the hospital, and hope all is well. You gave me a turn there, as I know you did some other folks. I told you not to hold you breath, but No-o-o-o-o-o-o! You had to do things your way. All my best, Bob Kaven |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
Hmm.. So far articles from this site have claimed that Obama is trying to steal your data (the “power grab” thread) which, as I‘ve pointed out, is incorrect if you read the bill. It’s produced an article about Obama trying to resurrect the Hitler Youth (the “be afraid” thread), which again, when you read the bill is not even close to being true. Call me a sceptic here Denise, which btw I’d take as a compliment, but what are the chances of these jokers actually being any more right about this issue than the last two. OK, I’ll bite. Have you got a link to the proposals that are being put forward so I can verify that they aren’t (or are) making it all up again. . |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
I dunno Craig -- seems to be just a book review -- of a book published by -- you guessed it -- WND books! (uh -- do you think that may be why it is a WND 'exclusive'?} So, you have to buy the book so you can know why you should be mad. (I really like the part at the bottom of the screen where it says 'related offers'!} And sign the WND petition. Before you've bought and read the book. You know -- that thing that all credible news sources do -- petitions. Advocacy. I'm a little bit confused about this 1984 stuff though... Ingsoc were the Republicans? In America? Well -- oh yeah -- GW was the king of doublespeak... Clean Air Act... et al. |
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Juju Member Elite
since 2003-12-29
Posts 3429In your dreams |
Yah, I heard my mom talking about this. Personally 1984 felt more like communism / socialism then capitalism.... -Juju |
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Balladeer
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since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA |
I remember it was about the withdrawal of all the wealthy people from society into a private enclave because the taxes were too high and they couldn't stand Democracy. LOLOL!! Well, then, you really didn't read it, Bob. It's not to be read like a comic book or dime novel. I'm sorry that's all you got out of it. Fortunately, tens of millions have gotten more. |
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Bob K Member Elite
since 2007-11-03
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Dear Juju, George Orwell was an old Leftie, and he fought in Spain against the Fascists. He was very turned off by the extremes of both the Left and the Right, and while the Britain that he saw in his 1984 had some left wing stuff to it, I think his point was not so much that it was the Left wing that was the danger, but that all the totalitarian states were pretty much interchangeable, Left and Right. I think his Animal Farm was much more a satire and criticism of Communism and Socialism, and was much more pointed and specific and unmistakable in that way. You really can't interpret Animal Farm as anything else, since he focuses on the specifically Marxist elements of production, and diversion of the goods to the folks in power (the pigs, in this case) and the ways in which the well meaning revolution betrays itself and its population. His point in 1984 is that the large powers are all essentially the same, and that it doesn't matter who is allied with whom. Everybody rewrites history to suit their own needs, as both Russia and Germany rewrote history, for example, around both the 1939 non-aggression pact and then the 1941 German invasion of Russia. Britain, Germany and Russia switch interchangeably in a bewildering set of alliances beginning with Britain's attempt to portray Germany as harmless and potentially friendly in 1938 with the peace in our time agreement between Chamberlain and Hitler which left Russia on the outs. This is what Was being Mirrored in 1984, the switcho-chango politics of 1938-1941 between Capitalism, Fascism, and Communism and how Orwell though that, at the bottom, they were all the same. From his point of view, you know, they were. He served as a Colonial officer in Burma for a while, and was very much aware of what unchecked Capitalism and Colonialism did to folks. He saw that as a sort of Totalitarian philosophy, too, though you may disagree with him. You might try reading his essay on shooting an Elephant (called, if I remember correctly, remarkably enough, "To Shoot an Elephant.") He also has a book called Down and Out in Paris And London. He's considerably more complex that you credit him for being. Sincerely, Bob Kaven |
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