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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan 
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“People should exercise at least 30 minutes daily to cut the risk of chronic disease, the guidelines say. But to prevent weight gain, it should be 60 minutes, and to maintain weight loss, it should be 60 to 90 minutes. The government also recommends that half of the grains people eat come from whole grains such as whole wheat bread, oatmeal, and brown rice. Adults need three one-ounce servings daily, the guidelines say. People are also encouraged to eat, for a 2,000-calorie daily diet, 4 1/2 cups of fruits and vegetables and three cups of fat-free or lowfat milk or similar milk product.” http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144133,00.html Well, I’m dead. |
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LeeJ Member Patricius
since 2003-06-19
Posts 13296 |
HA...what a joke, they put stuff in the food to make us hungry, have had cures for cancer for years????? FDA's been trying to take over all the natural suppliments for years, selling them as drugs, cuz they know they do cure people and keep them healthy...especially targeting Vitamin C.... They feed us and encourage feeding drugs to our families and children.... HA....FDA, whose biggest question of the day is....whose minding the store. A friend of mine was dating a fella who managed a health food store...they had a natural cure for smoking...FDA came in without warning, took every bit of it, off the shelves and anything stocked in the back...and left without giving any why or reason?????? And I'm told the darn suppliment actually worked! Sorry, just ranting and raving, mostly ranting...hehehe |
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LeeJ Member Patricius
since 2003-06-19
Posts 13296 |
forgot....wonder what they're next move is...it's been a campaign and message thrown at society for years to hate smokers....now I'm waiting to see what they say about people who are large and obese. They'll start saying obese people causes insurances to climb... I swear, I really wish Americans would wake up and smell the roses... |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
If the Feds forced dieting, they wouldn't just be smelling the roses, but also would be picking thorns out of their teeth.  |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
You could probably make a good argument that fat people at least contribute to global warming. (Where is Al Gore when needed?) Having more and/or larger cells, they must use more oxygen, therefore expelling more carbon dioxide, one of the culprits in global warming. Now, back to that diet so I will no longer be one of the perps  |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
The revision to the Food Pyramid, or whatever they want to call these days, was the first in 12 years. The last one happened while I was still studying Nutrition in college, which was the first in several decades. No matter how much money the Feds pour into health education, it's still going to be up to the individual to make the required changes. Most really don't have the luxury of time, or so they say, to spend on good cooking, eating, and exercise habits. So they go after any 'lose flab fast' plan that doesn't require much exertion on their behalf, or they buy into the latest 'miracle pill', as if any pill could quickly convert white fat cells into anything other than expensive urine. Only tried and true pill mthod to weight loss usually involves a lethal overdose. Howsoever, one can readily see the consequences of that theraputic method. |
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Cloud 9 Senior Member
since 2004-11-05
Posts 980Ca |
Ya know it is just crazy how this changes so much. This is good for you and that is not. Then the next year what is good for you is not and the original stuff that was bad for has been tested and proven to be good for you. And when you walk into on of those offices, what are you actually going to find working there?????????? I was driving to work the other day and they were stating on the news that this guy got shot but never killed him. He was a heavy man and if he didn't have that much fat on him, it would of killed him instantly. I don't understand it. I am 5'10 185 and 33. I feel great. I have found the older I get the more I weigh. I am not into looking like I weighed when I was 23 (145lbs). I struggled for a long time to loose weight and as the years pass I see generations changing all the time. I gave up. But I try to eat sensibly along with the kids. |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
The reason why one year, or even month, what was bad for you is now good for you, and all that rot, deals less with Nutrition and more with corporate interests, and that's how it's been for decades. Eggs are bad bad bad for you, then the egg industry puts their PR people to work with the very real threat of physical pain if they don't come up with something fast, and then LO!...eggs are good for you. I'm sure everyone remembers how pork was bad bad bad for you, what with all those nitrates. Then suddenly, LO!...it's the other white meat...you know...like most poultry and fish. So if someone tells you something is bad bad bad for you, just wait a bit. In short order, it'll be good good good for you. |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan |
I notice the media is struggling with how to visually present this issue; that or the obese have no heads. |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
One of my Views, which kinda coincides with this thread, is about cold cereals. Ever notice on so many cereal boxes they add 'part of this complete breakfast'? 2 grapefruit halves, large orange juice, large milk, milk in the cereal, and several whole wheat dry slices of toast or whole grain muffins. Now, perhaps I'm just completely stupid or something, but if you take out the cold cereal, what you have left is a fairly complete breakfast. That's probably why I like thick slabs of pepper bacon, fried eggs so dry they bounce, and fried bread (in the bacon grease). Toss in some varnishing coffee, and that's pretty darn complete to me. |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan |
Alicat, I’m amused by those commercials that say if you take their amazing, (and expensive), weight reducing pill along with a diet and exercise plan you’ll burn off the pounds. |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
Heard one the other day claiming you could lose 90 pounds by February. |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
That sounds a lot like post #5.  Seriously, 2 pounds lost a week is the Golden Rule, and should be the maximum lost per week. That gives time for the body to adjust to the changes slowly, and gives the best long term results. This is true especially when 30 minutes per day, or every other day, of physical activity at 80% of maximum heartrate is performed. This is why it is imperative, though very rarely done, that a complete physical examination, including maximum heartrate and VO2 Max is performed. Yes, the dreaded treadmill test. Within 90 days (standard employment probationary period), positive tangible results well be evident, along with intangible (LDL vs HDL tests, for example [low density lipids and high density lipids]). |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan |
"He pointed out that Kraft Foods, the nation's biggest food manufacturer, said Wednesday it will try to encourage better habits by curbing advertising of Oreos and other snack foods to kids under 12." "curbing"? |
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Mysteria 
since 2001-03-07
Posts 18328British Columbia, Canada |
If everyone would start a new exercise in 2005 by lifting their fork less, and their butt more - the world would be a much healthier place that is for sure. It is not so much as what we do, it's more about what we don't do I think. I have been so thin, and then gained, and each time it was lack of exercise. If I started to listen to every consumer related bit of diet gossip, I wouldn't have this signature, and that would really be awful! Ali, you are so right. The only way to lose weight is slowly, and create a permanent life change, as compared to a "fixer upper" as that weight always comes back. Carpe' Diem |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan |
I think if people actually led a “healthy" life style, it would cause at least a recession. Think about how much the United States economy is funded by questionable consumer decisions. I think the American economy needs Homer Simpson, spending more than he has on what he doesn’t need stuffing his face all the while, in order to prosper. |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
I seriously doubt that, Huan. Sure, there'd be gripes from the insurance corporations, dietary corporations, plastic surgeons, clothing corporations, special interests, and food corporations, but that would be very short lived. Already 'health food' costs much more than comporable 'junk food'. If you doubt that, just head to your local grocery store and check the prices on the Health Food aisles. Also, 'healthy living' doesn't mean totally abstaining from alcohols, fatty foods, and the like. What it means is moderation coupled with exercise. In the moderate and long term, there would be economic booms, not recessions. With less paid for lifestyle medical deductables, downtime in hostpitals, healthier immune systems, less paid for cosmetic surgery (tucks, lifts, lipo), and better overall insurance rates, the average person would have more income to invest back into the economy, buying things they want, instead of paying for things they'd rather not be going through, like quadruple bypass surgery after a lifetime of poor intake choices. |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan |
Alicat, “In the moderate and long term, there would be economic booms, not recessions . . .” “In the moderate and long term” There I think is the rub. American business has a short term focus. The American consumer is habituated to immediate gratification. I haven’t your confidence that there would be the patience and resolve necessary. John |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan |
“AUSTIN, Texas — Texas school districts would be required to include the body mass index of students as part of their regular report cards under a bill introduced Tuesday by a lawmaker seeking to link healthy minds with healthy bodies.” http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144879,00.html I can see this heading for the courts at the speed of light. |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
Especially since BMI is really hard to pinpoint in people still in development cycles. And I'm sure there'll be a lawsuit, not by parents who care about their kids, but by the ACLU seeking to protect us from our own sensibilities, or by somebody with too much time on their hands who may or may not have any children in the school system. |
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LoveBug
Moderator
Member Elite
since 2000-01-08
Posts 4697 |
I've struggled with weight for my whole life, and I'm back on track with my diet after a hefty holiday break . As a child and a teen, I was picked on enough because of my weight. I know that my weight is unhealthy, so did my parents. They told me this often (and have screwed my head up permanently in the process), so I'm glad that my school didn't step in and insist on joining the chorus of discouraging voices. By the way, I didn't start dieting because of these people saying bad things to me, I finally did it because I met someone who loves me no matter how I look. Meanness and singling out people doesn't work. Oh, make me Thine forever |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
There could be meanness, but only if the student shares their report card in full with someone else. Sure they can tell the grades, but if they tell the BMI or pass the card over, they will quickly learn a vital life lesson: trust and betrayal. I think the goal, however misguided, is to help parents who may be very protective of their child (who isn't) and may not recognize things, intentional or otherwise, that could lead to health issues, psychological issues, morditity, and possible hospital visits/surgeries. Pros and cons. |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
since 2004-10-12
Posts 6688Waukegan |
Alicat, You know words like “discrimination” and “bigotry” will come into play. You can tell smokers they’re going to Hell, have them out in the cold, but make a critical comment about someone’s weight as a government or a business and you may as well call your lawyer in the next breath. |
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