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0 posted 2002-11-06 04:05 PM


This came up in my head, 'cause of a thread by quietlydying in Teen #6, in which she used a line from a song:  "There's a thousand ways to sidestep me."  She changed it to "There are a thousand ways to sidestep me," claiming it to be more gramatically correct.

Looking at it, I was wondering... is the subject "A thousand ways" considered singular or plural?  Is the singularity of the thousand what is considered... or the plurality (is that a word?) of "ways?"

There just has (have) to be a few people out there who know the answer to this one...!

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1 posted 2002-11-06 08:32 PM


plurality is a word - one of my favorites!

'ways' is the noun being reffered to. thousand is simply a modifier, so isn't reflected by 'is' or 'are.' 'ways' is plural, which would make the final answer be "are."

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2 posted 2002-11-19 11:39 PM


Jen was right... It doesn't even qualify as a collective noun (which can be properly used either way)...
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3 posted 2002-11-19 11:45 PM


Some examples, Nan, of collective nouns?
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4 posted 2002-12-22 06:08 PM


family, team, group
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5 posted 2002-12-22 06:25 PM


hmm... i didn't know they could go both ways.

the council have
the council has

i like the first better, but guess i can see how it would work. it can refer to it as a mass of individuals, or as an entity itself. interesting.

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