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Ramjam Junior Member
since 2003-11-23
Posts 21 |
My next pice hop u lik Paranoya Paranoya's a suttle lady indeed dresses real gentel soft an unflambuoyant. Creeps up to ya so slow crossed with a lattise of black strap. Creeps into ya changing her cote to a lite laccered gray mossy green. Rearranging ur safe pompuss nest to a color reflecting thw way u r cozying up to her chest. Til u nuzzel rite up and u lay by her side: shes naked, ur blind an her skin's flamin red in ur mind. |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
Rob, I'm answering here so as to not hijack someone's valid thread. quote: Speaking of paranoia (yes that is the correct spelling) where or when did I say I don't like you? Whether I like you or not is irrelevant here. I can fairly say that I don't care for your childish antics and games. I repeat, you need to get a real life. Pete Never express yourself more clearly than you can think - Niels Bohr Oh yes, I forgot to critique. Actually, this poem shows some potential. You could work on the wording a little but mainly you really need to do something about the awful spelling. [This message has been edited by Not A Poet (11-24-2003 11:21 AM).] |
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Ramjam Junior Member
since 2003-11-23
Posts 21 |
weeeeeel mr pete sir u seeeeeeem lik a reel nice downrite straitfwd honnnnnest strttalkin kinda guy so i'm gonna give it to ya strait. r ya sittin down now mr pete sir. gud. 1st off mr pete sir i cant say as i lik u as much as u lick me on account of the way u treeted ma gud buddy mr rob (hes gonna lend me a spellchecka reel soon btw). mr rob aint about to show his nose in ur 4rum mr pete sir, maybee hims chiken reel yella or maybees him just too dang proud or maybees him one helluva ee go mayneeack or maybees he jus don wnt to be himself round a peep who cant reetract, anyways wutever lik i say mr rob aint about to show his nose in ur 4rum mr pete sir, ohhh no that he aint, til the beehavoiural karactristics of certin modraters herabouts changes and sum hartfelt retractions start flyin hereabouts. meantime i guess u'll hve to mak do wit me an my potry (frm the hert), leastways til ya sling me out on ma cute lil ass (ohhh mind ma piercings) 4 not braking de rules that is. 2nd off ... umm guees there aint a 2nd off best rj gld u licked the peom |
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Ron
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
Actually, Phil/Rob/RJ, you've broken a number of rules. I deleted one comment from you this morning that was little more than one drug reference after another and a poem that actively, if subtly, promoted suicide as a reasonable choice. It hardly takes a genius to see you were clearly trying to push buttons, and only stupid people think everyone else is stupid. Uh, come to think of it, I deleted that poem three times. Maybe that qualifies as cross-posting, too?  The biggest rule you broke, though, was the one that applies any time and anywhere people come to congregate. You lied to us, actively and consciously choosing to deceive everyone. That you did it so poorly you could be easily traced doesn't really change your apparent lack of personal honesty and integrity. You've pretty much established your pattern, I think. I don't know a hell of a lot about poetry, and I would certainly never be so arrogant as to try to define it. But I've always believed, should such a definition ever surface, and for it to be personally acceptable, it would have to address the correlation between poetry and truth. Without truth, poetry ceases to have any meaning. In which case, people like you have no valid reason to be here. |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Shouldn't this have been adressed through e-mails? No one needed to know that Rob was behind the name "Ramjam" It is all done now though. I hope Rob will note such behavior may nothing avail; he will only help this forum if he will be himself. Essorant |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
Oh yes Essorant, oh yes we did. K |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
I'm sorry Essorant but I have to disagree with you on that. To the contrary, I thought, and still do, that it was worthwhile, even important, for everyone to know his true identity. I suspect though that those who were around for the last episode had already figured it out for themselves. Thanks for your continued interest in CA Pete |
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Toad Member
since 2002-06-16
Posts 161 |
Pete could you clarify the situation, is/has Rob been banned and if so is it due to the use of multiple usernames? You can probably guess my reason for asking. |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
I don't know yet. I would guess that he has been but not specifically for the multiple user names. |
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Ron
Administrator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
Since I'm the one who pulled the plug, Craig, I'll try to answer. Phil certainly wasn't banned for using multiple Usenames. If I did that, I'd have to ban half the Members, two-thirds of the Moderators and all but one of the Admins. Kit would be in here pretty much talking to herself. (And, yea, I just admitted I have an alias, too. I even posted in CA once with it. )On the surface, Phil has been banned because he wants to play silly games and completely disrupt the forums. After my post above, I spent nearly an hour cleaning the forum of his "noise." I didn't remove any post where he had something to say, or where he interacted with others, but I suspect the remaining posts could still be counted on one hand. Most that I removed were complaints against Pete for outing him. Unlike Trevor, from several months ago, Phil chose to continue his charade. When you look below the surface, Phil is being banned because his last post specifically, if perhaps indirectly, asked to be banned. He thinks he is above the rules because he thinks he can manipulate the rules, skating just on the surface of acceptability. He played his disruptive games, refused to stop playing his games, and will now have to find somewhere else to play them. |
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Toad Member
since 2002-06-16
Posts 161 |
Thanks for the clarification Ron. I can’t say I’m particularly happy about how things turned out but I guess the reality is that nobody is popping champagne corks right now. |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
No, Toad, we're not. I've been watching CA for a few weeks now, as you all have been extremely gracious with comments on what work I have placed here. I keep coming back to see how critiques are placed, knowing I would like to learn not only to receive them correctly, but give them as well. But the sort of deception that was going on, Sir, was no reason to partake of celebration. I hope everyone can now go forth, and let this go. |
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Jamie Member Elite
since 2000-06-26
Posts 3168Blue Heaven |
I have followed this sad situation for months now. It actually goes back much farther really. I only hope this undesirable resolution can at least lead to more mature behavior in the future. Perhaps lost in all the animosity is the fact that some people who had no real part in the disagreements were deeply hurt, and that the forums are losing someone who was once an invaluable and well liked contributer. I can't explain or even fathom how something so contrite snowballed into such hostility. Chalk it up to the old cliche about creative people being more sensitive than others I guess. The Philip I remember ( and haven't had contact with in what has to be over a year ) was both caring about people and the art of poetry. I guess he finally went over the deep end about how those same people were treating his own concepts of what poetry is all about. I'm fairly sure our old friend would have had a few words with the bard himself if the opportunity had existed. They would have been witty and pointed, but civil. The same can't however be said for Rob and Ramjam. Those personalities are better suited for characters created by people with names like Dr. Frankenstein, than the person I remember. And miss. Why Philip? You are/were so above such petty behaviour. Peace, J [This message has been edited by Jamie (11-25-2003 12:08 AM).] |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Could we set a time/date when he could come back to the forums? [This message has been edited by Essorant (11-25-2003 11:47 AM).] |
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River Senior Member
since 2003-09-16
Posts 627my own little world |
Huh, i understand why half of the replies to my write where deleted now Ron...(I'm kinda an airhead, i had to have this spelled out)...I'm sorry this happened, i hope you adults can work this stuff out...and i think i will shut up now. - River |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
Essorant, as I understand it the whole group of characters has been banned rather than suspended. That means it is up to Ron to determine whether to let him return. I doubt that Rob or Ramjam would ever be allowed back but it Philip can manage to recompose his old self...? |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
I don't think this "Ramjam" thing needed to be shaken up the way it was. Any wrong post could have been deleted at any time but instead making a big deal of it so quickly - and publicly--seemed more important, and now a family member is banned for it. Was it that harsh? What do the members think? Were they that offended? It doesn't change the fact that it was a wrong. But I really don't see a place where Phil/Rob didn't make up for this and other little mischiefs by showing an earnest care and purpose for the forum and members; it is rare that a member comes along like that and I have a suspicion that many other members may agree with me... For this I hope that Ron, and you, and other moderators involved may reconsider the decision. [This message has been edited by Essorant (11-27-2003 06:14 PM).] |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
Thread closed at request of the author. |
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