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chopsticks
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0 posted 2007-12-08 11:17 AM



Brad I found the poem. We can discuss it if you like, maybe the off rhyme in the first stanza


I want to be a part of it ,
the rumble and tumble of life.
To take it in my arms each day,
look it in the eyes and laugh.

To sense its very essence
in some small quiet country town.
Or maybe join the circus and
play a stumbling clown.

Maybe catch a freighter
and sail across the sea.
Or even go to college
and get a law degree.

Or I could spend my money
and have a little fun.
But I better get a move on,
I just turned seventy one.


I wanted to post this as a new topic.


© Copyright 2007 My brother John. - All Rights Reserved
oceanvu2
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1 posted 2007-12-08 01:46 PM


This poem is charming.  It has the flavor of James Whitcomb Riley.

Best, Jim

chopsticks
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2 posted 2007-12-08 03:29 PM


Ocean, thank you very much . The poem is based on a true story that I wrote for my birthday a few years

ago .

I guess being in my ninth decade, is what makes me such a ornery old cuss.

I'm going down to my deer stand for a couple hours. I may not be able to do that next year.

The dears won't miss me because I never shoot at them, only with my digital.



Brad
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3 posted 2007-12-08 04:36 PM


I enjoyed this a lot.

On the off rhyme:

first reading: didn't even notice it. I usually skip headers and jump into the poem.

second reading: Hmmm, wonder if there's a reason.

third reading: thought it was a great variation, it enhances the poem, makes it better with it than without it.


TomMark
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4 posted 2007-12-08 06:04 PM


I truly love this poem , Chops.
And This is indeed a very good one.

"I want to be a part of it,
the rumble and tumble of life."

I---who is "I"? Your selfconscious? or you conscience?

"To take it in my arms each day,
look it in the eyes and laugh."

How you love and cherish your life.
a very interesting way to say it.

I'll write more later.

Tom

chopsticks
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5 posted 2007-12-08 06:55 PM


Thanks Brad and Tom,

I was afraid not to mention the off rhyme, somebody may think I didn’t know that it was off and that would spoil my record of being perfect.

The “ I “ was the conscience me. Tom you can ask some deep questions, but sometime I don’t think you know that .

TomMark
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6 posted 2007-12-08 07:12 PM


Chops, do please not talk like Sir Brad. I am only able to handle one (or even one I doubt) sir Brad.  


TomMark
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7 posted 2007-12-08 07:22 PM


"look it in the eyes and laugh."

Chops, tell me why you use "laugh"? why not "sigh"?
Laugh can mean happy or at your age which I have passed, means "for good or for bad, I have coped well" or "for lost or win , I used to be so serious, now, it is just nothing to me."

why laugh here?

"To sense its very essence
in some small quiet country town."

Chops, do we view ourselves greater in smaller and quiet place? Did I lost myself in New York? because everyone seems bear more important role in this world than me.

why sense the essence of live in a country town? The essence of life is love...so there must be some love stories in each of the "some".

"Or maybe join the circus and
play a stumbling clown."

Do you mean here that life was too hard sometime so we should forget it now and then To be out of reality. Or we shall view life like circus. Something here I felt that I can not put into words.  

"Maybe catch a freighter
and sail across the sea."

A very poetic tune. crossing sea of unknown along the  invisible road but did not mention where you want to go...let the life take you.

"Or even go to college
and get a law degree."
very concrete aim for justice, for money and for  political reason...to be a senator. the extreme of unpoetical.

"Or I could spend my money
and have a little fun."

let life go easy

"But I better get a move on,
I just turned seventy one."
summary as every day life.

This is a reflection of past life. A very good one.
and a late happy birthday to you!! dear Chops.

[This message has been edited by TomMark (12-08-2007 07:57 PM).]

chopsticks
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8 posted 2007-12-08 07:59 PM


“ The essence of life is love...”

Tom, there you go getting deep.

I’m going to tell you something but keep it confidential . The other day I was chatting with a good friend
and he ask, what would  you do different in your life. He didn’t expect an answer, but I gave him one. I told
him that I would strive to be less competitive . He then told me that being competitive was a sign of
insecurity . Here I was trying to tell my friend I would like to have been a  regular guy, when he put me in
my place.


TomMark
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9 posted 2007-12-08 08:17 PM


exactly, Chops! You are smart and full of wits. Everyone is an ordinary oneself. Only one is bright enough to know it.  Do we need other people to tell us how wrong was our past...or is your friend  a preacher?


jbouder
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10 posted 2007-12-12 04:47 PM


chopsticks:

The cadence is very interesting.  May I ask when you started writing poetry and when you wrote this one?  Just following a hunch.

And this is the CA forum ... the only thing that struck me during the first reading is that you don't seem to bridge the thoughts and sounds between the first and second stanzas as well as you do between the others.  It tripped me up a little on my first read, but didn't seem to be as much of an issue for me on the second.

As a whole, I really liked the poem.  As I mentioned earlier, you did a nice job with the poem's rhythm ... it reads easy and made me want to keep going.  And the last line was great.

Jim

chopsticks
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11 posted 2007-12-12 05:40 PM


‘’ May I ask when you started writing poetry and when you wrote this one “

Jim I’ll be happy to tell you that if you will first tell me what your hunch is. What part of

the world do you live in? Do you think you know me.? Do I owe you a lot of money ? Are you going to hurt me?


chopsticks
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12 posted 2007-12-12 08:53 PM


No problem Jim, this was one of my first and I wrote it about10 years ago , I posted it in another forum sometime back. I don’t remember what forum.

It has been rolling around in my head for maybe sixty years. In 1948 I was on a freighter carrying a load of grain to Germany when I found a copy of (The Best Loved Poems Of The American People) in the ships library. I have been hooked ever since.

I love you for your cigarettes and chewing gum, those were the days.

Btw, if you see Ocean tell him Kipling has some poems in the above poem book, that should stand for something.

jbouder
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13 posted 2007-12-13 09:00 AM


Chopsticks:

I don't think I know you (although I suppose it is possible) and I'm certain you don't owe me money.  I live in central PA.

Your poem reminded me of a sailor's poem I read that was published in my father's "Our Navy" magazines that his parents collected while he served in the South Pacific in WWII (he served on a destroyer in Halsey's fleet).  Not so much by the content, but by the rhythm.  I'll have to try to dig it up.

Again, I liked the poem.  Thanks for humoring me.

Jim

chopsticks
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14 posted 2007-12-13 09:30 AM


Jim , thank you very much. I hope you find the poem and post it here before I leave.

Thank you again as I have only tried to lift this place up some and it needs lifting.

jbouder
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15 posted 2007-12-13 10:09 AM


Here it is.  Granted, the subject matter is very different than yours, but, for whatever reason, your poem brought this one back to my memory.

"Destroyers" by Jeff MacDonald (Our Navy, August 1, 1945, p. 16)

Of lithsome grace and lovely line,
Our haughty ladies dressed in grey,
Have features perfect, small and fine,
Fair creatures of a form divine;
And every inch they're yours and mine,
Our favorite ladies dressed in grey.

Where there's a fight to right a wrong,
These are the ladies dressed in grey.
They're slim and supple, quick and strong.
Where there's a battle fierce and long,
Their hard throats hot with battle song,
In go the ladies dressed in grey.

Across the vast and untamed sea
Our proud fine ladies dressed in grey
Through storm or calm to Victory,
Will fight or die for you and me.
With bold, high hearts, forever free,
On go the ladies dressed in grey.

Destroyers ring the Victory Bell
Destroying ladies dressed in grey,
Dianas, sound the Axis' knell.
Through battle fire, bomb and shell
Down to and through the Gates of Hell
Advance the ladies dressed in grey.

chopsticks
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16 posted 2007-12-13 01:10 PM


Jim, there is nothing wrong with memories.  In the final analyzes , that’s all we have.

I know you are proud of your father as we all should be.

I would like to think, that we may have passed like ships in the night.

Take care,

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17 posted 2007-12-14 08:49 PM


"look it in the eyes and laugh."

Ahh good way to live life I liked the way you exspressed yourself chopsticks.
Krysti

[This message has been edited by hunnie_girl (12-15-2007 02:53 AM).]

chopsticks
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18 posted 2007-12-15 06:17 AM


hunnie_girl, thanks , you are a class act, you are what it’s all about.

When you get to heaven, I want your autograph.


hunnie_girl
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19 posted 2007-12-15 12:17 PM


Class act i'm hoping that is a good thing lol
Krysti

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