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Balladeer

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0 posted 2009-09-21 09:59 PM

Villonnet

The Villonnet was created by D. Allen Jenkins.

A Villonnet is a hybrid of the Villanelle and the Sonnet. It has the Iambic Pentameter of both,
but holds the four-stanza/line structure of the sonnet, while utilizing the two-line rhyme nature
of the villanelle. The final stanza replaces the sonnet couplet with a typical villanelle tercet.
The Master Card

In simple terms, simplicity is hard
to master when sophistication reigns;
to gain your ease amid the pressures bought
on time revolving in a plastic card.

But leave the task to some aspiring bard
who doesn’t have the wits to fear the chore
of using rhymes and metered lines to say
in simple terms, simplicity is hard.

The pace by which we live is a canard,
and faster does not always better make;
and lateness sometimes comes from trying to stay
on time revolving in a plastic card.

In simple terms, simplicity is hard
when punching simple numbers places life
on time revolving in a plastic card.

Copyright © 2005 D. Allen Jenkins

[This message has been edited by Balladeer (09-22-2009 12:06 AM).]

Dr.Moose1
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1 posted 2009-09-22 01:01 PM

Not wishing to be Balladeers' main course
I chose to visit Vegas town instead
to play some games and win a bunch, yessir!
No bull, er oops, I really mean, no horse!

Roulette and Let It Ride, my tour de force
though odds on both are skewed way towards the house
I hit Roulette for quite a princely sum
not wishing to be Balladeers' main course

The house like "Deer" kill Moose without remorse
but Lady Luck did bless me with her smile.
Full houses, Let It Ride, not one but three!
No bull, er oops, I really mean no horse !

Not wishing to be Balladeers' main course
or go bust on the wheel or playing cards
No bull, er oops, I really mean no horse!

[This message has been edited by Dr.Moose1 (09-22-2009 07:10 PM).]

Balladeer

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2 posted 2009-09-22 02:54 PM

Welcome back, MooseMan! Always good to see you here.

Poem is good although I can't find any relationship to it and the instructions given.

Lose you mind in Vegas along with your cash???

Dr.Moose1
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3 posted 2009-09-22 03:39 PM

Balladeer,
Probably so, lol. As far as the relationship to your assignment, let me see. Three quatrains, one tercet. I messed up the pentameter in line four of the opening quatrain. The rhymes I believe are in the right place, but I may have missed
the repetition of lines throughout(yes?).
Good to be back.
Doc
P.S. re-write complete. "Utilizing the two rhyme nature of the Villinelle".

[This message has been edited by Dr.Moose1 (09-22-2009 04:18 PM).]

Oklahoma Rose
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4 posted 2009-09-22 05:42 PM

Well, this sure looks alot easier than a full fledge villanelle. I just might give this one a try. I sure hate looking dumb in front of so many, though. And, all lines have to be the Iambic Pentemeter? Oh my! Here I go again...

Hey Doc, it's good to see you back. You always do so good.

Balladeer

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5 posted 2009-09-22 06:02 PM

Much better, Moose! I see you incorporated the villanelle construction this time. I do not see the rhyme scheme in the third stanza and you really can't thrown in Ride're and pretend there is not an extra syllable there (actuallt the 're is really not necessary. The sentence is fine without it.)

Other than that, no problem.

THAT should teach you not to leave Vegas and come back!

Dr.Moose1
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6 posted 2009-09-22 06:58 PM

Balladeer,
Of course you are right on all counts( I hate when that happens, lol). One more time... O.k. I think I got it.
Doc

Rose,
Thanks for the welcome back and the vote of confidence. In my enthusiasm, I often overlook "minor" things, like rules etc., but hey, I'm not afraid to try, or learn from my mistakes.
Doc

rachaelfuchsberger

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7 posted 2009-09-22 09:48 PM

Ugh....iambic....alright. I'll give it a go. It may take me a while though. Question, first. Does the rhyme scheme have to be as illustrated above, or does it just have to follow that the last line of each following stanza is the same as the first line of the first stanza, and the first and last lines of the final stanza are the same as the first stanza?

Arana Darkwolf

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8 posted 2009-09-23 11:35 AM

Thanks for the questions, Rachel. Actually, the more I study this form, the more I don't care for it. The villanelle has the first and last lines rhyming, which is done here. It also has all of the middle lines rhyming, which doesn't apply here because of the sonnet-mingling construction of using quatrains. Therefore the only rhyme scheme used is a-b-c-a, which has nothing to do with a sonnet rhyme scheme. The first line of a villanelle becomes the last line of the second stanza and the last line of the first stanza becomes the last line of the third stanza, which is all done here BUT the final stanza of both sonnets and villanelles are quatrains. In villanelles, the final quatrain has the first line of the first stanza and the last line of the first stanza becoming the 3rd and 4th lines of the final stanza. None of that is done here.

I have a better idea....let's forget this one and move on. There are too many flaws with itand too many confusing points. I can find better...

rachaelfuchsberger

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9 posted 2009-09-23 02:44 PM

I'm always asking questions. I'm glad this one could be helpful. (If it was, indeed, helpful.)

Arana Darkwolf

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