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thinktwice Member
since 2003-12-23
Posts 125United States |
I understand the profanity rule perfectly. However, we could facilitate the users who would use such language by creating Mature Poetry section. Not exactly like the one that's already made [mature content]. I mean we could have an adult dark poetry section where people can finally express their thoughts to the fullest. There could be a security warning and name identification as well. i'm not trying to beat a dead horse or anything, in fact i don't even know if what i'm saying has been said before. and if the administration has an issue with it, i would suggest at least setting such a forum up as a trial. i mean, give it two weeks to see wheteher the forum is a success or not. Adam "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" -Finger Eleven [This message has been edited by thinktwice (12-23-2003 01:44 PM).] |
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Poet deVine
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
We have Mature Forums that include a forum that allows some more 'mature' language. But as always, if the profanity is for shock value or doesn't suit the piece, alternate words should be used. You can ask for admittance to the Mature Forums in the Member's Area.  |
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thinktwice Member
since 2003-12-23
Posts 125United States |
awesome. good stuff. with this thought in mind, why is there a problem? |
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SimplyGold Senior Member
since 2002-07-10
Posts 1453 |
Oops, I couldn't resist another 2 cents worth. I have been reading the string concerning the issue of profanity. It is a shame but, censorship is a tool that sometimes must be used when good folk have lost their sense of discretion. Yes, there is a time and a place for everything and it appears that this site has such measures.(I thought it did?) I for one, do not like obscene language. Yes, it offends me. I make a concerted effort to watch my tongue and admit resort to a foul mouth when I'm hurt and sometimes when I'm so angry I'm over the edge. Frankly, it's not a pretty thing. So I ask you, what ever happened to civility? It is an art to insult someone creatively, it is an art to express your feelings creatively. So have your tantrums but, I don't wish to have to experience them in this format. Creative expression you say, intensity of feelings, O.K. Find a place that accepts it. Obviously, it is not acceptable here. In fact, the creators of this site owe no explanation. It's their ballgame. SG P.S. The suggestion,Thinktwice, is a good one. Perhaps a designated area would solve this situation. I thought there was one already?? Oh, by the way just because something exists does not mean that it should be perpetuated. Somethings are just not acceptable no matter what we may think or how we may justify it. Now try responding without foul language  |
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Marshalzu  
since 2001-02-15
Posts 2681Lurking |
I'm not ashamed to say it but I use what others would label profanity pretty liberally in some of my poems. Infact I use pretty awful words, words that can be said and mean't with affection over here in my region but words that would shock and disgust almost everyone that I can think of here. Do I complain about the fact that I cant post that work here? No. Why? Because I tailor my submissions to my audience, what is acceptable to a group of North Eastern English dock workers is not necessarily suitable for the mixed age, ethnic and social background of this audience. |
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SimplyGold Senior Member
since 2002-07-10
Posts 1453 |
Well said Marshalzu. SG |
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Vagabond Member
since 2004-01-23
Posts 163 |
I support thinktwice in his ideas. Vagabon the Lost One |
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Jessie Carstein Junior Member
since 2004-01-08
Posts 41 |
There are often reasons why people do not wish to use mature content though. One is that there is near enough no traffic to that area of the site. Picture the scenario, someone writes a beautifully elegant poem and has a single piece of profanity which is needed in the piece (like a poem about a parent suffering due to their child's tourrette's syndrome condition), because of the profanity this is auto labelled as a mature content piece, which is a forum not visited because most of the work is horribly explicit and taboo. Is it fair that such works as that of the tourrette's recieve such a negative stigma because of needless conservatism? I am not saying that we shoudl totally relax the rule book but what I am suggesting is that perhaps it is time that we moved with the current contextual conditions and allow some minor profanity. It has got to the stage where you can't have four asterixs in a poem here, but can watch someone being torn apart in a war on television, are we so distrusting in our children that we must blinker them from the outside world needlessly? |
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nakdthoughts Member Laureate
since 2000-10-29
Posts 19200Between the Lines |
You just think those other forums don't have much traffic..they are read by many. Sometimes we read and don't respond... and doesn't that tell you something? That if those forums that have language that isn't appropriate for all ages have less responses..then maybe the majority here prefer it that way. There are many other poetry sites that let it be a "free for all"...this site has so much more to offer and is why there are so many poets and readers here... just my opinion M |
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Jessie Carstein Junior Member
since 2004-01-08
Posts 41 |
Saying there is loads of traffic in that forum, I posted a poem in January, got no replies, but since then merely 40 have gone ahead of it, and this is 6 months on, surely that proves my point? I am not advocating a 'free for all' by the way, just a little slack being cut. Free for all would end up with tons of spam and trolls which no one in their right mind would approve of, but a little creative flexibility wouldn't hurt surely? |
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nakdthoughts Member Laureate
since 2000-10-29
Posts 19200Between the Lines |
Just a suggestion...looking at your number of posts at 30 if this is the only name you used in the six months..means you haven't even given anyone a chance to know you. Maybe if you reply to others..they will notice you and do the same... I didn't read your poem in the mature forum but will do so now and then will respond under it. M |
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Jessie Carstein Junior Member
since 2004-01-08
Posts 41 |
You're probably right about not being known but anyway never mind |
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silvergriffinfire Junior Member
since 2003-03-13
Posts 21middle of nowhere |
I don't really know if this should be under profanity, but I think there should be slightly more flexible rules. I have had two poems removed from Dark Poetry not because of profanity, but because I used, I believe, a few words in each that were taken to promote self harm. This was not what I was doing, and I was upset that they were removed. Perhaps there could be some sort of label on certain peoms saying that they contain minimal language/and such. If someone wants to avoid reading such poems, this label can let them know not to read it. Within the sounds of silence... |
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Ringo
since 2003-02-20
Posts 3684Saluting with misty eyes |
silvergriffinfire- Before ANY work is removed from any forum, it is discussed by all of the moderators... usually at length, and the poet is very often given the benefit of the doubt. I am sure you know how hard it can be to get 3 people to agree on something, so imagine the discussion that goes into getting- sometimes- 10 or more people to agree that a poem needs to be pulled. This is not an action that is taken lightly, because we all have very strong feelings about our work, and understand that you do as well. The main reasons that we have the language filter and the rules about what is acceptable is because there are many people who visit this site that do not wish to be involved is such language, and because we have children as young as 10 that visit, read, and post. For those reasons, as has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, we have the mature forums for peopple to post in when they feel that the adult language is needed. Although I have posted one scribble in the Mature forums, my personal thoughts are that most writes can be done more effectively, and with more impact if the easy words are not used, and the poet is required to show his reader what he means without resulting to vulgarity. Just my opinion, though. Oh, BTW... don't worry too much about having a poem removed... I've had one removed, and another that I submitted to the mods rejected for content... IT has happened to us all. In the wooden chair |
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longte Member
since 2005-04-06
Posts 199Australia |
I am Very New here But it seems that the Mature Content section Mainly concentrates on more sexual aspects Very occassionly it May be deemed neccessary to use so-called profanity but as it is in life Exactly the same result can be achieved without it. Really its only when delving into some of the baser emotions that "Profanity" is almost required I have a few poems that contain no profanity at all but because of the emotions they engender I would not ever drop them into an open area Peter Live It |
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Juju Member Elite
since 2003-12-29
Posts 3429In your dreams |
Yeah... My brother signed under my name, because I had cookies under my computer that allowed him. I got in trouble a few times. And like he posted a one poem(That I know of) that wasn't mine. It was so embarrissing. I was going to change my pass word, but he didn't know my password it was the cookies. I think the no profanity is good. He didin't know the rules or any thing. So yeah. He also down loaded a few things which I did not appreciate... my poor computer. Juju - 1.) a magic charm or fetish 2.)Magic 3.)A taboo connected woth the use of magic |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
If you read through some of the MC forums, yeah, some threads are sensual, sexual and related themes. Still others are gritty, bawdy or simpy adult oriented. That doesn't always mean sex smut and more sex. I have several in MC, dealing with divorce, silly looks at caberets, sadistic prostitute teasing, and a slew of more sensual subjects. There's even a fable about a certain whale. Mature Content is what you make it, just like any other forum. |
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