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patchoulipumpkin
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0 posted 2000-02-20 11:29 PM


Smiles push away
His cheek
Like an oar
On water

Slowly
Curling his skin
Towards the sky
As Time conspires
To drop it
To his feet


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jenni
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since 1999-09-11
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1 posted 2000-02-20 11:47 PM


patch--

beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.  LOVED the first stanza, especially, although, after reading the whole piece, i wonder whether another image than the oar and the water might be better there, one that more effectively conveys the idea of curling something to the sky.  on the other hand, you may want to consider adding another image to the second stanza, something that brings out the inertia of depression, in contrast to the oar in the water not only curling a smile but also propelling him forward.  just a suggestion.

anyway, even as it is now, i really like the piece.  

shootin' for another 60 comments?  

thanks for a great read,

jenni

patchoulipumpkin
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2 posted 2000-02-21 12:24 PM


Thanks Jenni, for the comments, i like the oar actually, though i will play with it and see what i can do. The oar, kind of makes it seem lazy, and slow, which is sort of what i was trying.
Thanks

Yeh, what the hell was with that? I couldn't believe the madness of "coffee".  I just gave up, because it turned into this super debate, and trevor really was on a roll.  I actually just reread some of it, and he could package his comments into a manifesto of some kind.  A man on a mission...LOL.  I just ducked out after about 14comments, because things had taken on a new life, so i just watched it sprout.

anyway, appreciate your comments.

Poertree
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since 1999-11-05
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3 posted 2000-02-21 07:14 AM


Patch

I agree with jenni .. beautiful, though actually I loved the oar on water imagery so long as it's an oar lazily dipping into Lake Coniston on a hot glassily still summer afternoon and not the frantic sweep of the Oxford eight losing to Cambridge at Henley .....lol

Thanks

Philip

Poertree
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4 posted 2000-02-21 09:06 AM


Hi again Patch

I read this again and this time jenni's comments as well in more detail.  

When I first read the poem I thought that what you were doing was being "clever" with the title.

I saw the whole poem as being about the physical actual act of smiling, literally about a smile.  The first stanza puts forward a very attractive bit of imagery and the second comes over to me as being kind of cheerfully defiant in the face of the ravages of age and time doing their worst on the old facial muscles ...lol ..  The "cleverness" of the title is in the fact that the poem is about the very opposite of "depression" while at the same time a dimple or depression is exactly what happens to the cheek when a person smiles.

Perhaps you had more than this in mind but a this level the poem worked well for me.

I did however like jenni's idea of using the word depression still further and combatting the very idea of the its inertia by using the "propelling forward" oar imagery.

Philip

warmhrt
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since 1999-12-18
Posts 1563

5 posted 2000-02-21 06:38 PM


Patch,

I loved this, as, in a few short words you so cleverly create the image of a smile forming in slow motion, fighting off the foe that wishes to take it down. Wonderful imagery...I think the oar and water simile was a very good choice, and also quite original. Personally, I think it's perfect just the way it is...

Yes, that was quite a record number of responses to "Coffee"...I thought it was a riot!!!

 there's a hell of a good universe next door;lets go ~ e. e. cummings



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