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a political instrument |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
A journalist makes some rhetoric, in the name of the freedom, he says to a woman, you forbid to other women the freedom to wear the veil, the woman has a moment of silence, I imagine helping her, in the name of the freedom we forbid well the dictatorship, we forbid many traditions millenniums as the excision, Where is the freedom ? in the right to forbid obviously, in the name of the freedom we cannot accept everything. |
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Margherita Member Seraphic
since 2003-02-08
Posts 22236Eternity |
Dear Yann, you have succeeded in speaking very eloquently about a most important, essential condition: "freedom". True freedom requires highly evolved minds to really work ... This is very thought provoking. Only love and respect may truly recognize the subtle line where the freedom of one finishes and the freedom of another begins. Though all societies have great attachment to traditions, we must consider that evolution and change are needed to get humanity closer to real freedom and harmony. Thank you for this, dear Yann. Love, Margherita |
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Alison 
since 2008-01-27
Posts 9318Lumpy oatmeal makes me crazy! |
Yann, You speak out very eloquently and ask questions we should take the time to consider. I like your poetry for many reasons - and this is one of those reasons. Thank you for thinking, writing and sharing. Alison |
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Earl Brinkman Senior Member
since 2010-03-03
Posts 1183Osaka, Japan |
You take bold steps by asking controversial questions. Moral laws and traditions should be examined carefully to ensure that they do not crush the rights of an individual. That said notions of morality vary greatly depending on the individual, his enviroment and his place in history. This is a topic that deserves further discussion, |
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Andrew Scott Member Elite
since 1999-06-24
Posts 2558Redlands,CA,USA |
Those last two lines are at the heart of so much controversy. One person's freedom is another's bondage... So, where do we drawn the line? Well written. Peace. "We'll chase them like rats across the tundra." |
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JamesMichael Member Empyrean
since 1999-11-16
Posts 33336Kapolei, Hawaii, USA |
Nice...I suppose if she was born with true freedom she could have chosen to never wear the veil in the first place...James |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
Yann, Freedom comes in the mind of those who choose to think differently, even if at the moment they have to subside to others' requests. So begins evolution of nature, and nurture. Well done, m'friend. |
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JerryPat Senior Member
since 2010-10-30
Posts 1991Louisiana/America |
I think my real thoughts would not be welcomed here, so I will merely say you have raised a question most run from. . . . and the Raven said, %!~#&(&#!$! |
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ethome Member Patricius
since 2000-05-14
Posts 11858New Brunswick Canada |
Yann I appreciate your open minded approach. Unfortunately there's no such thing as true freedom. As Bob Dylan said in song, "you've got to serve somebody." However, freedom with a measure of loving discipline is quite welcome in the minds of most people. The type and importance of the discipline is the question and I think you make a good point in this poem. Some things are invasive and overbearing. However, the right type of discipline is needed and welcomed. Remember your favorite teacher in school, the one that affected your life more than all the rest? Politics for the most part do fall short of the mark!! Great write!! Eric |
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easy1 Senior Member
since 2010-05-22
Posts 1209Southeastern USA |
"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (1859), ch.1 So, the dictatorship should be forbidden (just look at the miserable gulags and persecution lately sprung up in Venezuela!)  but the wearing of veils should be up to the individual woman. Do all predominately-Muslim countries require or expect veil wearing? Obviously, no... merely the more backwards ones. |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
Thanks Earl, an outfit can be a symbol, bad or good it has to be considered further than simple elegance if it questions liberty ...Thanks for the pertinent comment. yann |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
Thanks Andrew, I totally agree that the situation has no evidence and has to be discussed, freedom is a legitimate question about the wear of the veil in some countries. thanks for the excellent comment. yann |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
I guess yes James, thanks for the comment. regards yann |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
Thanks Sunshine for the enlighning comment. you summed up a very accurate situation. yann |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
Hello Ethome, excellent comment with quotes taht sound clever and touch my thoughts...Freedom unfortunately depends as you say from what you share with others...I only can share opinion of Bob Dylan and yours but don't think that serving is freedom in some sense of the word...I have no truth about freedom indeed , a very complex concept. regards yann |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
yes easy 1 the wearing of veils should be at the decision of women, but some testimony and confessions prove that it is not and that it is at first a decision of men in a lot of muslin countries...It sets a problem of freedom indeed and a threat that has to be conceived and some times not tolerate in virtue of freedom...I am not sure that my opinion is the best but it makes sense to my sipmple thoughts and vision of society....Thanks for the excellent comment. yann |
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2islander2 Member Ascendant
since 2008-03-12
Posts 6825by the sea |
Thanks Alison and Margherita for the excellent and supportive comments...I am not notified of replies anymore since few months, it doesn't work well. hugs yann |
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