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GothicCherry
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0 posted 2009-02-21 11:25 AM




I see your thoughts, of me you think
Your life revolves around a dream
I reeled you in with just one wink
I now reside inside your head

I might escape this lonely place
You would enjoy that kind pardon
Too bad I would desire your face
You now exist with me always


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1 posted 2009-02-21 11:53 AM


This is good but I am not sure what your pattern is..? I counted 9,8,7,7.. I think.. Its still early morning and I'm tired. Haahaha.

-Zach

When I see your smile, and I know it’s not for me, that’s when I’ll miss you.

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2 posted 2009-02-21 12:01 PM


Ummm, well it's SUPPOSED to be 8,8,8,8. I think I count "desire" differently then others though.
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3 posted 2009-02-21 12:21 PM


Hmmmm... I'll have to recount it later. I'm going shopping. Be back later.

-Zach

When I see your smile, and I know it’s not for me, that’s when I’ll miss you.

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4 posted 2009-02-21 12:22 PM


Ooooh, I wanna shop!! Lol...

Alrighty, Geez I still can't get even the pattern right.

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5 posted 2009-02-21 03:15 PM


hey no worries michaela, This is really good, it does have a pattern of 8,8,8,8. you got the pattern right.

With God I am happy; sadness has no say in my life.

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6 posted 2009-02-21 06:57 PM


Yay!! Now I just need to work on meter.
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7 posted 2009-02-22 04:17 AM


On second thoughts maybe you can ignore my comment to you in Christine's thread, because I just read this:

I see your thoughts, of me you think
Your life revolves around a dream
I reeled you in with just one wink
I now reside inside your head

I might escape this lonely place
You would enjoy that kind pardon
Too bad I would desire your face
You now exist with me always

Which is more or less perfectly iambic, (though not pentameter of course, but that doesn't matter).

Obviously you can do it!  So maybe 50 lines is on.  

Remember - blank verse: iambic pentameter: da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM and no end rhyme.


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8 posted 2009-02-22 05:25 AM


I'm noticing a lot of pattern obsession developing in this forum. Sure, use patterns when they add to the poem but discard them if they choke it.

This is an excellent poem however.

Never sigh for a better world, it's already composed, played and told.

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9 posted 2009-02-22 06:27 AM


Suncleaver

I am not entirely sure what you mean by "pattern", but in any event I think the word "obsession" is a little strong.  Some of the people here are simply trying to learn about one of the most fundamental aspects of ALL poetry: stress and rhythm - and to my mind that is really great because without such understanding you are severely handicapped in your poetic advancement.

I guess it all depends what you meant by "pattern".

If you are referring to the simple counting of syllables then I would be inclined to agree with you.  I have never been a great fan of syllabics - imo they don't have a great deal to do with the rhythm of English.

On the other hand if you are referring to stress patterning, i.e. the way in which different emphasis and length is assigned to different syllables, then I completely disagree.  In my view, whatever poetry you want to write, whether it be form poetry, rap, spoken, free verse or any combination, you definitely need to have a good grasp of poetic meter and the way that sounds interract.  

If in order to appreciate stress and meter you have to obsess a bit while you are learning, then I think that is fine.  

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10 posted 2009-02-22 11:48 AM


quote:
I have never been a great fan of syllabics


In my craft and sullen art
Syllabics play quite a part.
Another hack also used
This form that is much abused

Did you mean that high cue stuff?
If so - well that’s fair enough.

  

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11 posted 2009-02-22 02:28 PM


Thanks Moonbeam!

I've been working on my blank verse, but I'm haveing difficulty recognizing stresses in small words such as 'it', 'you', 'me', 'in', etc...

That's probably where I will mess this up.

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12 posted 2009-02-22 03:24 PM


LOL Grinch

Ok ok why did I just know when I typed my reply above that you'd show up with DT in tow.  Anyway it's true, I don't see the point of syllabics just for the sake of them - but obviously a great poem is a great poem, and if it happens to be syllabic well fine   .

Now go away and stop trying to trip me up. Heh.     And you are right, Hi Kew isn't my favourite garden.

(Cool poem in CA btw   .)


  

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13 posted 2009-02-22 03:27 PM


Michaela

You should probably assume most little words are unstressed.  But then on the other hand check out what I said to Christine in her thread.  The reply where I mention Robert Pinsky.

Cheers.

M

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