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Don't Do Drugs |
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the_loner_23 Member Ascendant
since 2002-06-08
Posts 5479Jacksonville, Florida, USA 
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Don't do drugs They are bad for your health If you take to much You will die of an overdose Don't do drugs For it causes Damage to your brain To where one day You will be A vegetable Staring at nothing Don't do drugs For you may never Get a job To support a family Don't do drugs Because it causes Ireversable damages To certain parts of your body Don't do drugs And in great health You shall be Cold hands means a warm heart [This message has been edited by the_loner_23 (06-16-2003 11:26 PM).] |
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ThunderMage Senior Member
since 2002-06-20
Posts 812Canada |
True enough. My Dad jokes about that topic of health: "Good health is just the slowest way of dying."  What is life without poetry and adventure? |
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inkedgoddess Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-19
Posts 7392Ohio |
good intentions, and sad to say, someone is shooting up right now...as we read...... a nightmare once you get hooked, seen it too much |
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Earth Angel Member Empyrean
since 2002-08-27
Posts 40215Realms of Light |
You are shining a light on a serious problem! Warm hugs, EA |
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QjQ Member Elite
since 2003-04-18
Posts 3756U.S.A. |
postive words of wisdom,, A voice of honesty |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
Julie? How is it you are so innocent and yet so wise? "one day You will be A vegetable Staring at nothing" It starts the second you start.... I applaud you, lovie.  smiles and hugs from one who knows. |
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the_loner_23 Member Ascendant
since 2002-06-08
Posts 5479Jacksonville, Florida, USA |
Thank you all. And Serenity Blaze I also know this from experience. My cousin Micheal is a weed smoker. My Uncle Larry, I ain't going there. So I do know. Cold hands means a warm heart |
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Mistletoe Angel 
since 2000-12-17
Posts 32816Portland, Oregon |
 (big hugggsssssssss) It's a shame there have to be jonesers in this world, drugs is just plain stupid and I pray that everyone can make the only right choice and live organic! (sigh) God Bless You, sweet friend, we all love you so much! You have such a beautiful heart, sweet Julie, thank you for sharing! May love and light always shine upon you! Love, Noah Eaton Underneath your clothes, there's an endless story |
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skyshine
since 2002-02-07
Posts 3058Beneath the northern stars |
I'm with you on this one, Julie!  ~Elizabeth Dreams last for so long, even after you're gone... |
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Local Parasite
since 2001-11-05
Posts 2527Transylconia, Winnipeg |
Drugs are bad, mm-k? [This message has been edited by Local Parasite (06-17-2003 03:50 AM).] |
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Drexler_McStyles Member
since 2002-11-18
Posts 195Venice, Ca |
umhhh sorry, this is a horrocity and about as poetic as it is factual...dont believe everyhting you hear from the bush administration or other disimformations....smoking weed has never killed anyone, and some drugs offer a different and enlightening perspective on the world, that bubblegum and cigarettes cannot. True, some people cant handle these things in moderation, but that is also true about many things including television and liquor, which both cause more "damage" to the mind and body that any assortment of the other stuff do. I dont mean to be a bastard, but things like this bother me.... el diablo Casey |
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BluesSerenade Member Patricius
since 2001-10-23
Posts 10549By the Seaside |
Well Julie, I was going to say something about weeding out all the dead heads, but I'm not ready just yet.  I have a feeling this is going to turn into a hot topic!!! |
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passing shadows Member Empyrean
since 1999-08-26
Posts 45577displaced |
mm-k |
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Drexler_McStyles Member
since 2002-11-18
Posts 195Venice, Ca |
MM-K? Casey |
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Local Parasite
since 2001-11-05
Posts 2527Transylconia, Winnipeg |
oh yeah, Drex, I know what you're saying about the unique perspective... what was it Huxley said about the Doors of Perception again? Can't remember, I was fried when I read that one...  Seriously... don't do drugs. |
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littlewing Member Rara Avis
since 2003-03-02
Posts 9655New York |
"when the doors of perception are opened, everything will appear as it is . . . limitless" As Morrison said: "Out here, we is stoned . . . Immaculate." Where are my head phones . . . . Great message Julie xxoo [This message has been edited by littlewing (06-17-2003 04:30 AM).] |
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Local Parasite
since 2001-11-05
Posts 2527Transylconia, Winnipeg |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
Okay. It SEEMS like a fun topic, but actually? Drex? You and I would be dangerous together. I've been very ill the past month. I am attempting to kick methadone cold turkey. AT HOME. ALONE. (week FOUR--that's GOOD, btw) Somebody give the lady a cigar. (and yeah, I was thinking "blunt" too) I finally found a place that feels so bad that no amount of feeling good is worth the trip. It's not fun....The chills and fever come and go. I'm starving. Until I eat. Then I am nauseated. I vomit. Starving again. There are dizzy spells, and mood swings, muscle aches, constant headache and now I have a rash from running fever for so long. (And? I consider this doing GREAT remembering how bad I WAS.) The worst? was/IS the anxiety tho--and yanno? I have several more "bad boy habits" to kick too. I figure it's like a game of "RISK". Defeat and conquer, one at a time. And yes, it IS declaring war on yourself. All of this falls like dominoes. I've been hooked on a deadly cocktail of dope for well over 30 years--all washed down with generous amounts of booze. Just don't start it people. Julie said it, simply and innocently: Don't do drugs. You'll just end up walking backwards through your life. and yes Drex, I have heard about the concept of moderation, but? tsk...I'm an all or nothing kind of gal...apparently.  /  I just can no longer rationalize moderation for MYSELF. sigh. End of speech. |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
btw I censored this not the mods..see im a good boy Comedian Bill Hicks said "If you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, then go home and burn all your records, all your tapes, and all your CDs because every one of those artists who have made brilliant music and enhanced your lives? RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrEAL (censored) high on drugs. The Beatles were so (censored) high they let Ringo sing a few songs." Some of the most intelligent artists performers and even authors have been under the influence. Moderation IS the key and no its not for everybody. The search for stimuli and sedation is not a solely human trait. It has been found that certain animals will search or choose rotten or fermenting fruits for the express reason of getting high. [This message has been edited by Aenimal (06-17-2003 09:56 AM).] |
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Janet Marie Member Laureate
since 2000-01-22
Posts 18554 |
Sen........... I have always loved your honesty and humilty..you are stronger and braver than you know baby and I am so proud of you for facing your demons and standing in the fire. And any one who wants to play judge and jury better know theres a mad crazy moth between you and them love you KA.  |
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Enchantress Member Empyrean
since 2001-08-14
Posts 35113Canada eh. |
Great message here Julie!! Serenity..Hang in there! Love ya Lady! |
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1slick_lady Member Ascendant
since 2000-12-22
Posts 6088standing on a shadow's lace |
Julie… This is true. Drugs break families, hearts, promises, and bonds. It is a hollow lover that is selfish, shallow, untrustworthy, and manipulative. And the hold it has, is stronger than most of the love we could ever try to give another, to make it better. And K, I am behind you 100 %, said and unsaid. I bow at your courage and there is strength in you- you have not even needed to reach for yet. You bring tears to my eyes knowing there is a difference in change and rearrange. Love you…helen |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
No, no, no...please don't anyone call me brave. LYRA was brave. I'm just stupid and got caught in my own trap. But? Julie, you just keep saying "no" to drugs, sweetie. You'd have to eventually anyway. |
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Nightshade
since 2001-08-31
Posts 13962just out of reach |
Julie, this is a great message. As one who watched someone I loved and still love, fall into this black abyss of alcohol and drugs.....and climb, bleeding back up into the light....I applaud everyone who says NO. The result is always the same - facing the devil himself and all of his little creature companions. Sound like fun? It's Hell. Karen....take heart dear lady...all will be well. hugs to you Julie for this. Chris |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
Can I add another two cents? I am in no way desputing the dangers of drug use. But I feel it's as dangerous to outright condemn drugs as it is to glorify them. Drug use is like any other pleasure or vice including alcohol, tobacco, sex and even food. They all have the dual power to create and destroy. These are all things to be controlled not only in moderation but with education. Child schooled in sex education theoritically should be wiser and less likely to rush into a decision and likewise i believe the same would be true for drugs. Remove the taboo and the miseducation to say drugs destroy is simplistic. Think of all the artistic creations, some of your favourite novels, the music that many grew up on, know that shamans and tibetan monks are known to use small doses to induce meditative states. There is as much beauty as there is ugliness. It all depends on the maturity and responsibilty of the user. I'll leave one more quote. "I think psychedelics play a major part in what we do, but having said that, I feel that if somebody's going to experiment with those things they really need to educate themselves about them. People just taking the chemicals and diving in without having any kind of preparation about what they're about to experience tend to have no frame of reference, so they're missing everything flying by and all these new perspectives. It's just a waste. They reach a little bit of spiritual enlightenment, but they end up going, 'Well, now I need that drug to get back there again.' The trick is to use the drugs once to get there, and maybe spend the next ten years trying to get back there without the drug." ~Maynard James Keenan of Tool |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
Karen it take someone brave to admit they made a mistake and someone brave to get out of it.. |
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garysgirl
since 2002-09-29
Posts 19237Florida, USA |
All I have to say is that someone who is very dear to my heart and whom I love very, very much is in prison because of alchohol and drugs.......both illegal ones and prescription drugs. And, Kare, just keep on keeping on. I'm just an e-mail away if you need me, by the way. [This message has been edited by garysgirl (06-17-2003 03:14 PM).] |
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dreambuilder Member
since 2003-03-23
Posts 319caddyshack |
I don't encourage drug use, however there are some people who just belong stoned. . . . all that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream . . . |
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littlewing Member Rara Avis
since 2003-03-02
Posts 9655New York |
Drug/alcohol use & abuse - we have all seen it, been through it experience it now or work with it. I think what everyone is trying to say is that to demand that drugs/alcohol are banned/unwarranted etc etc . . . is moreso force of opinion. All of us are right in our own write. We all have different lives, different experience and are entitled to our own thoughts. God Bless those of you who are going through it Its the toughest thing you will ever do in your life . . . But then there are those of us that dont get caught up in the grind. Been there - done that Peace xxoo [This message has been edited by littlewing (06-17-2003 11:44 PM).] |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
Again theres a huge difference between use and abuse |
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garysgirl
since 2002-09-29
Posts 19237Florida, USA |
Some people who start out using don't ever plan to be abusing....... they just happen to see that they're using more and more |
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Drexler_McStyles Member
since 2002-11-18
Posts 195Venice, Ca |
or they just do them on and off for years, and have a great time....of course we never hear the good stories, they are "criminal", we only hear the ones about those who couldnt handle themselves and spiraled out of control...drugs are not for everyone, not for most people, but those who know how to enjoy them and not abuse them have another spectrum of enlightenment to enrich thier lives...to those people: I salute you The Drexler McStyles Casey |
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
In my opinion, Drexler, there are no "good" stories. Only ones that aren't yet quite as bad as others. With the exception of psychotropics, most recreational drugs work their magic by killing a few brain cells here and there. Hardly what I would call a spectrum of enlightenment. Still, I'll be the first to admit that even aspirin eats away at your stomach lining and my custard-filled sweet roll for breakfast will clog my arteries. We all make choices. And that's cool. The reason we will NOT glorify or defend illicit drug use at this site is because, well, it's illicit. Responsible people work to change the laws they find unacceptable, not just break the laws. |
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nobody Junior Member
since 2003-05-19
Posts 43 |
drugs do so much harm they're just a tool for the rich to relax ordinary people get drawn in to this cycle of wasted money on a dream of escaping themselves but why? those few hours of relaxation and escape then back with a crash to the real world -STOP- it's not worth it? the pain in life why go to a habit that makes things worse of eternal los to themselves to escape? get lost in the real you? hmmm.. why did i? what was so ... different words cannot explain the pain and loss at my near perfect life gone wrong it's just a phase well.. what are these occuring thoughts? can antone answer so many questions NO! it's not possible who can get in my head but me? you can try but fail fail like i did at the temptation of bad stuff that will do you wrong and harm your senses but the damage is done the odds are weighed up and i'm stuck in this dream world for that few hours just to forget that i'm alive [This message has been edited by Sunshine (06-23-2003 10:08 AM).] |
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daniel_martin Junior Member
since 2003-06-15
Posts 30london |
well, if we consider the existance of a god, and that this god is omnipotent, tehn i tihnk it's good to express bill hicks' contention. Cannabis is a naturally growing drug. If drugs are bad, coffee, alcohol, coca cola, and cannibis, then on the face of cannabis being natural god made a mistake. thus he can't be omnipotent, and can't truly exist. more realistically, when you say "drugs are bad" there's no moral certainty to express that the adjective is true. why is it bad? what makes it bad? if we can not intelligently prove the existance of an external moral universe, then we must accept that in all you are saying in this poem is your own prescription. What you are really saying is: "in my opinion, drugs are bad, you ought to agree with me" thought provoking poem. |
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nobody Junior Member
since 2003-05-19
Posts 43 |
*agrees* |
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Midnitesun
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647Gaia |
Well, I recently stopped all the drugs my DOCTORS had me on, and time will tell if this was a wise decision or not, but the Rx's I was on did more harm than good (my opinion, according to my body's feedback). Not sure yet about those other ones I did, though I stopped them too. A good provocative write, girl! |
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nakdthoughts Member Laureate
since 2000-10-29
Posts 19200Between the Lines |
I think Julie's poem made a good point..and for those of you who don't believe drugs and abuse of them including alcohol, are a "bad" thing, maybe you should attend a DUI class or a rehabilitation program and see the lives ruined by such. Listen to those who have lost family members or have to care for them as invalids...or killed someone themselves. then decide if you think "some" can handle drugs...the only differential is time...how long before it affects you, the user. M |
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daniel_martin Junior Member
since 2003-06-15
Posts 30london |
blah blah. again, what you said said, meta-ethically, was that "drugs damage health, in my opinion you should not take them" there's nothing to say drugs are bad, for who are we to say bad, good exist externally? blah blah |
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nobody Junior Member
since 2003-05-19
Posts 43 |
yes but in the end were all going to die anyway...so why should other people object to what some people choose to do every day...i've done weed once and didn't particularly enjoy it what i did enjoy was getting out of myself for that short period of time....and i say that if that makes some lonely person out there feel better not being them then i say whats the harm. |
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nakdthoughts Member Laureate
since 2000-10-29
Posts 19200Between the Lines |
Julie, you did a good job on this poem...if it brings awareness or even discussion Thank you for your words Maureen * and as far as blah blah goes........it's dribble to me To each their own, until it affects another... |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
I have no problem with the don't do drugs theme of this poem so Julie this isn't directed at you. This is directed to the postively ridiculous attitude to say drugs are bad as an undeniable statement. To say it breaks apart familes..or kills..or ruins people's lives, well so do a billion others things that we take for granted as everyday activities. A car in the hands of even the most sober idiot is a danger that kills. Sex breaks apart relationships and marriages. Not to mention diseases. Should we stop driving is it too dangerous? Should we all stop having sex because it has the potential to destroy lives? These things are dependant on the maturity and intelligence of the persons involved. We learn how to drive and pass test to get a license and yet things still happen sometimes in negligence sometimes by accident. We learn about diseases we learn everyday how cheating ruins families and yet theses things continue and have for countless years. What a ridiculously narrow-minded view to assume that there are some people with enough will power to do other things with care and moderation but not for drug users. And to say drugs will eventually win or get ahold of you well Paul McCartney is 60, a onetime acid user and long time pot smoker and don't ever recall him being in rehab of any kind. Silly silly these are the attitudes that kill. Educate yourselves and use moderation in ALL that you do and nothing can conquer you but yourself. |
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nakdthoughts Member Laureate
since 2000-10-29
Posts 19200Between the Lines |
Well Raph a little bit of knowledge couldn't hurt...I have been attending 6 weeks plus of a behavioral course designed to allow people who have been arrested for a DUI (driving under the influence, whether of drugs or alcohol or a combination)understand the consequences of their choices before getting their licenses back. The statistics are there...and the surprise of those who "got caught" in this class of all ages, when learning what a BAC actually is and how it is measured and that all those myths of how to get away with doing something illegal (which is driving while under the influence)a felony in PA...shows the ignorance of many, and the denial that it won't happen to them, but only to others. I am an observer... and being there is my choice and it is interesting to talk to the people before class and during their smoke breaks and see how it has affected their lives and those of their friends and family, emotionally and in their pockets. I don't condemn personally (except for one)those who use drugs nor those I know who drink excessively, but I wouldn't want to be the passenger in their car after they have consumed them. |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
Yes M you've been in contact with those who abused those substances that still doesn't give you the right to assume all people who take drugs will abuse them. Different people different results. Not everybody who eats fast food abuses it,becomes overweight and develops heart conditions. But by your logic we should apply this to anything that remotely brings pleasure. Because in pleasure there always lies the danger of wanting more. So nobody should eat fast food, take drugs,have sex,drive,smoke, or anything remotely enjoyable by the simplistic logic of Don't Do. This is so silly and I'm not even a drug user. [This message has been edited by Aenimal (06-24-2003 04:48 PM).] |
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nakdthoughts Member Laureate
since 2000-10-29
Posts 19200Between the Lines |
what is silly is, that you are saying that I am saying anyone who uses drugs is bad...I am saying do what they will but remember as with everything we do there are consequences...these people were no different than you or I, they just happened to get caught. There are far more people driving around (the only situation I am worried about at the moment)than those who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and got caught..Think about how many times you or a friend has been drinking and drove home and were lucky, they made it home and thus in their mind the next time is easier to do it, because "well I made it home alright the last time" And those who believe taking drugs (of the non prescriptive kind..or not because of a need through a DR.) think they are getting pleasure through them, when most are depressants...including alcohol, which dulls your senses into thinking it's pleasurable...and yes, I agree, everyones tolerance levels are different. Anyway I am done with defending my position...I can back mine up. But I don't think silly is a word to use when drugs and alcohol are the topic. And THAT was the topic..not eating at fast foods or having sex as the examples you have given. And you may not know this but in the 50% of marriages that don't make it more than half are due to alcoholism. Anyway have a good evening. I am not trying to convert you or to make you understand just as I can not make my husband realize that he is an alcoholic and though he blames other reasons for the failure of our marriage, it all comes down to drinking and the importance he placed upon it, numbing himself to real life rather than on working out the feelings that make him drink. In a way, this poetry writing has become my addiction, but with it I am hurting no one. That is the difference and that was the statement I was trying to make. If it hurts no one else, fine... M [This message has been edited by nakdthoughts (06-24-2003 08:44 PM).] |
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ecrivan Member Elite
since 2001-12-10
Posts 3923my own state |
wise words..crispy and meaningful |
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Aenimal Member Rara Avis
since 2002-11-18
Posts 7350the ass-end of space |
'what is silly is, that you are saying that I am saying anyone who uses drugs is bad...' Well you went go as far as to conclude as absolute truth that drugs will always have a negative effect with your earlier statement: "Listen to those who have lost family members or have to care for them as invalids...or killed someone themselves. then decide if you think "some" can handle drugs...the only differential is time...how long before it affects you, the user." and with your closing statement "In a way, this poetry writing has become my addiction, but with it I am hurting no one. That is the difference and that was the statement I was trying to make. If it hurts no one else, fine..." which seems too say without question that no one can handle drugs. Which is what I've taken offense to and have argued with other examples such as food or sex. See while drugs IS the topic when one argues a case or point they are sometimes forced to use examples to illustrate a point. Also these aren't random examples I've made, the examples with the exclusion of driving, can be considered destructive vices when abused. But you fail to see the correlation so I too will step out of this discussion which you've already deemed in your favour with the arrogant dismissal: "Anyway I am done with defending my position...I can back mine up" I too can back mine up and have done well in giving an alternative point of view, not a absolute, but alternative because I can accept, whereas you refuse to, that there two equal sides to the equation. Again I'll just add once again that Paul McCartney is a positive example of one who not only used but also did well to create music that enhanced peoples lives as well as carry through a marriage and family life without any problems. [This message has been edited by Aenimal (06-24-2003 09:50 PM).] |
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Kaoru
since 2003-06-07
Posts 3892where the wild flowers grow |
Well, the poem was great.. I was pretty sure that this would raise a few comments.. Just proves how powerful poetry can be, huh? I won't say my opinion on drugs, just that I enjoyed your writing.. |
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Artic Wind Member Rara Avis
since 2007-09-16
Posts 8080Realm of Supernatural |
Drugs are totally wrong! ~ But the people who take them obviously have a problem, (which in this case, mostly they are addicted) and others, emotional problems.... I for sure would never use them, it's stupid and ridiculous. This write is wonderful! ~ I am happy that you and many others know this is serious and wrong!  ARCTIC WIND |
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