»
Discussion
»
Philosophy 101
»
Humans--Omnicient, Omnipotent, Both, or Neither?
| Philosophy 101 |
|
Humans--Omnicient, Omnipotent, Both, or Neither? |
|
|
Blood.Wolf Member
since 2009-02-09
Posts 54GA, USA |
Well, are we, as human beings, omnicient? omnipotent? Both? Neither? I believe that we're not even clairvoyant, much less omnicient. I mean, look at history. Hitler (overused example, I know) definately did not know anything. Former President Bush? Um... He knew more than we know, but that's just my point! WE, as humans don't know everything. In answer to the second question, omnipotence is completely asurd. I mean, if we were omnipotent, would we not have stopped, say, pollution? wars? Would we not have cloned extinct species because of our extreme curiosity? If you disagree (or agree), please find the holes in my statements. Lawyers do it all the time! |
||
| © Copyright 2009 Jonathan - All Rights Reserved | |||
Stephanos
since 2000-07-31
Posts 3618Statesboro, GA, USA |
I've never seen this as a serious question in all the history of human thought. Name one serious thinker who ever thought humanity to be omniscient or omnipotent. Neither. |
||
|
Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Yes, we are omniscient. For everything we don't know, is always something we still know about to some extent. In other words our unknowing (just like our knowing) is never perfect, and therefore we always know everything to some extent. And in that extent of knowing everything, we are omniscient. Nor am I loth to acknowledge the flipside of being omni-ignorant as well. Just like we know everything to some extent, we also don't know everything to some extent. Thus we both know all and don't know all in many variable ways. In a like wise may be omnipotence (and the flipside, omni-impotence) for us as well. |
||
|
Stephanos
since 2000-07-31
Posts 3618Statesboro, GA, USA |
Essorant, Not to reopen an old sore here ... but I think you'd better ask the Wolf what he means by "omniscient". Granting your right to use the word any way you wish, your definition is still unconventional enough to warrant some clarification. I don't think he meant "omniscient" in the sense of also being "omni-ignorant" at the very same time. I Welcome the wolf to clarify his own intentions, because I honestly believe your answer would be the same as mine, if you were answering his question the way he framed it. Stephen |
||
|
Blood.Wolf Member
since 2009-02-09
Posts 54GA, USA |
I meant if we were all-knowing and all-powerful. Sorry, but I've been busy. |
||
|
|
⇧ top of page ⇧ |
|
| All times are ET (US). All dates are in Year-Month-Day format. | ||
