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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
From the Annals of the Future: 2257 AD: Man discovers fossils of a very ancient and human-like civilization in excavations on the planet Mars. How would that change/influence your thoughts about the origins and fates of life and humans? |
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iliana Member Patricius
since 2003-12-05
Posts 13434USA |
This should be interesting! Me.....well, I might not be surprised if that (or something similar to it) were to happen before then. As an aside, when I was in college, one of the security guards there was a preacher. He actually had his own church based on his belief and interpretation that Jesus was an extraesterial. He made a good bit of sense with his interpretation, too. But it's been too many years so don't ask me to expound on his theories. I doubt that it would change my religious philosophy very much. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
hmmm. Not sure it would change anything for me. But then, it's not like I haven't considered the possiblity that we are, and winks to Jo here, star seedlings... and human-like? I'd want some DNA evidence. I've seen human-like before...narrowing my eyes suspiciously...  that was not meant for you, Ess. I'm just ticked at the hubby again. |
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iliana Member Patricius
since 2003-12-05
Posts 13434USA |
Well, that's two for two....where is everybody?  |
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Stephanos
since 2000-07-31
Posts 3618Statesboro, GA, USA |
Essorant, you should read "Out of The Silent Planet" by C.S. Lewis. Great book. It's about life on Mars. It's one of three known as "The Space Trilogy". Probably some of the strangest and most philosophically provocative books I've ever had the pleasure and discomfort of reading. Stephen. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
I read it. Great book. Um, I think.  It was published over twenty five years ago? If so, that was it. (don't ask me for logic, dangit) I have snorted more dust in the past three months just digging through my bookshelves than I have in my entire...well, ALMOST, my entire dust-snorting life.  atchoo |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Interesting thoughts. Thanks for mentioning that book as well. It is interesting how man often makes out his technology or something similar to it as the means of intellegent life getting from one planet to another. But I don't believe man will ever be able to live on a different planet by his own means. When the energies that make a center of life leave earth, man and every other living creature shall cease to live on earth. However, just like life and intellegent beings rose again on earth, I believe they shall rise again on Venus too when it is time. |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
Well, I do hope it is a long time. Venus is still one very hostile place. |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Indeed, a long time in human years. But for the solar-system as a whole it may seem like only yesterday life were on Mars, today it is on Earth, and tomorrow shall be on Venus. |
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Ron
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
And then on the sun, Essorant? |
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Stephanos
since 2000-07-31
Posts 3618Statesboro, GA, USA |
lol. |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
But you are implying that life must always be in the solar system. I don't believe that is so. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
And this is why all of our family vacations end up in arguments--I wanna go to some other galaxy first!!!  Siriously.  |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
The difference between man and Nature is that man probably may never do that, but Nature may. I may believe that life, or the energy of life, could be assimilated into light and flow thro space to another galaxy and solar system. But to think of men in a manmade space-ship artificially and manually doing that truly is "science fiction"!  |
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Edward Grim Senior Member
since 2005-12-18
Posts 1154Greenville, South Carolina |
If I heard that there is life on Mars, I'd say, "So that's where my relatives are hiding." First off, I don't think any of us will live to 2257 (except serenity :b) but I see your point. Personally, I don't believe in aliens and life out there. And as I say this now, a blue guy named Thorpy on the planet "Space Juice Moon #5" says the same thing. Anyways, if I did hear that, I don't know how I would react. I'd probably start laughing uncontrollably. That would be the most amazing thing ever. I'd want to meet the non-earthlings and play ping pong with them and take 'em to florida and see if they think the way I do about it. P.S. I'd also borrow their boots. [Insert quote of wisdom here] |
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Ron
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
quote: I implied no such thing, Essorant. You said Venus tomorrow, so I asked you if the sun was next (all I did, after all, was skip Mercury). If you'd like to move outwards instead of inwards, I'm game to play that one, too. The real question, of course, is whether your observations are mere romantical fancy or if they have any scientific thought behind them? If Venus, why not the sun? |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Because life is basically cornered to living in a layer of temperature coming from the sun that accomodates life and creates some stability on the planet that temperature embraces. If the accomodating temperature is not there, life and things that are important to life will not be either. Right now that temperature is in a place that allows it to embrace Earth. But if Mars previously had substantial life similar to life on earth today that suggests the right temperature for life was further from the sun than Earth so that it embraced Mars, and even may suggest it was once even further than Mars, embracing other planets that are further from the sun. The Earth used to be hostile too. Taken back to earliest times, I believe that its hostility perhaps paralled the kind of hostility that is on Venus today. It is mainly temperature difference that makes the planets differ so much in respect to being able to accomodate life or not: Mars is too cold: no or very little life. Earth is just right: lots of life. Venus is too hot: no apparant life . My belief is that Mars is an evidence of a temperature difference that allows for life, but that is moving inward in the solar system, thereby accomdating life now on Earth, and eventually life on Venus. I don't see how Earth's fate shall differ much from Mars. If Mars had life such as on Earth it doesn't just suggest an isolated event for me, but betokens a system in which the other planets may fit into as well. |
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icebox Member Elite
since 2003-05-03
Posts 4383in the shadows |
Human civilization? That reminds me of a reporter asking Mahatma Gandhi what he thought of Western civilization. Ghandi answered, "I think it would be a good idea." |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Did you see this article? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5282440.stm |
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