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What does it mean to mean?
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Just thought I'd start a topic. I just received two new books by Davidson. Rule 1, I'm sick of religion. Ron, start a new forum. |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
Well, what do you mean by that? |
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Poet deVine
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since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Is this what you mean? quote: |
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Local Parasite
since 2001-11-05
Posts 2527Transylconia, Winnipeg |
For the record, I agree with you. I started a thread a while ago about two philosophical quotes on the metaphysical necessity of the soul's damnation after leaving the body---a couple of non-dogmatic interpretations, and it turned into a biblical debate. I'm sick of this forum. Any name ideas? How about Sophophilia 101? "God becomes as we are that we may be as he is." ~William Blake |
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Poet deVine
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Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
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Local Parasite
since 2001-11-05
Posts 2527Transylconia, Winnipeg |
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Tim Senior Member
since 1999-06-08
Posts 1794 |
sexual gratification from learning, I think was said tongue in ... er... cheek |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Glad you asked, Pete. The basic idea is that we should look at reasons as causes and that what we do is similar if not exactly the same as cause and effect. As far as the second comment goes, we've become a Jon Anderson type voice, a one note wonder. There are other things to talk about. |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
For the record, getting back to what makes poetry poetry would be a great idea. |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
quote: Is there any scenario in which reasons are divorced from causes? Isn't everything we do effected and causational? |
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Tim Senior Member
since 1999-06-08
Posts 1794 |
To "mean to mean" you have to have a truth or reality and a perception thereof. The question is how to you arrive at your reality and what means do you employ to utilize your perception. If poetry is a reality, then what perception does one have of what poetry is or is not? Poetry as defined by words or by culture or by self-perception and what is the inter-relationshiop between the three. What makes poetry poetry? In the context of what you mean in asking the question or in the context of what I perceive the question to be? |
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Stephanos
since 2000-07-31
Posts 3618Statesboro, GA, USA |
quote: What about when you come to a correct conclusion? What that a mere cause and effect relation? Or was it more of a ground and consequent relation? Grounds are different than causes. Because if your thinking is merely "caused" like all other kinds of events, there is no use talking about right thinking as distinct from wrong thinking. Stephen. |
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Stephanos
since 2000-07-31
Posts 3618Statesboro, GA, USA |
Brad, I actually understand what you're getting at. For even I get tired of discussing theology sometimes (believe it or not). It just so happens that the Branches of Philosophy: Metaphysics, Ethics, Epistemology, are the very same branches which religion speaks into. So while religion and philosophy cannot be said to be one and the same thing, they are inextricable to a large degree, to the chagrin of purists in both camps. As Colin Brown put it, philosophy and religion have had a tenuous relationship through the years, a love-hate struggle one with another, with misunderstanding on both "sides". And yet I think to simply start another forum, with the intent to delineate and strictly define would not be the solution. That would be to deny the religious side of philosophy, and the philosophical side of religion, doing neither much service. I say let current interest take things where they will go without expressing too much disdain. If you want to start a fresh new wind, go ahead. I appreciate that sentiment. Stephen |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Fair enough, Stephen. Perhaps the best solution is simply to ask, "Hey, let's talk about something else for a while."  As an aside, I was reading Tim's comment and started smiling. There is a playfulness to philosophy that discussions of religion seem to have forgotten. Yet, certainly, one of the most memorable scenes of the "Passion" is Jesus having fun with his mom. |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
"Isn't everything we do effected and causational?" By the way, I thought this was an excellent question (and answer ). |
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