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DreamEvil
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0 posted 1999-09-03 09:08 PM


Recent events have made me re-evaluate my position on honesty and have raised more concerns.

Simply put, is honesty always a good thing and is it always the best policy? If so, why? If not, why?

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JP
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1 posted 1999-09-03 09:13 PM


Honesty? I find that honesty with and within oneself is absolutely required before one concerns him or herself with any other aspects of honesty.

Afterall, what use is it to wonder if being honest with someone else is necessary if one decieves oneself?

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Alwye
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2 posted 1999-09-03 09:37 PM


In my opinion, honesty is most of the time the best policy. I agree with JP that being honest with yourself and finding honesty within yourself is definitely essential. But I think that as with many rules of life, there are instances where honesty isn't the best. Only you can be the judge if honesty is the right path to take.

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Julie
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3 posted 1999-09-04 01:56 AM


Are we being honest after the injury? Like...
uhhh, honey I am cheating. Well I was being
honest. How come she doesn't understand? OR
(screaming) the honesty at someone OR insensitive to their feelings?
I think honesty is an art. If you live your
life with integrity, honesty will be easy.


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Alicat
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since 1999-05-23
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4 posted 1999-09-04 07:25 AM


Honesty with self is important, as well as honesty with others. For though you might have a wonderful impression of self, others might not, due to dishonest acts of the past or present. And while at times it seems that honesty is not always the best policy, like when telling someone something they might not want to hear, at others times it is imperative...and more often that not, any pain caused by honesty will be forgiven a whole lot faster than a lie discovered.

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Sue
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5 posted 1999-09-04 02:42 PM


I don't believe any relationship can succeed without honesty - whatever sort of relationship, and no person can succeed in life without relationships, so honesty has to be the best policy; it allows you to succeed in life.
mister61
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since 1999-08-12
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6 posted 1999-09-05 01:03 PM


I believe in telling the truth, but is that the same as being honest all the time? It depends on your intentions. Some people can be honest out of vindictiveness; other times being a little dishonest is an act of compassion. Telling your partner how much you hate her mother may be honesty, but what's the point? Also, confessions after the fact, such as the cheating example above, serve no purpose other than to hurt. Julie made an excellent point - being honest will usually be easier if you live your life with integrity. (Someone - I don't remember who - once said your integrity is defined by what you do when nobody's looking.)

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WhtDove
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since 1999-07-22
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7 posted 1999-09-05 07:28 PM


Honesty is core to trust. If you cannot be honest, how can one trust you! I believe their may be times we would be better off not to say anything at all than lie. But not being honest with someone when they would expect that will ruin trust. So yes, I think it should be all the time. There are things you may not want to state, in the case of hurting someone, but not stating it is still being honest.
Severn
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8 posted 1999-09-05 10:09 PM


A toughy. No simple answers here. It all depends on whether you can live with yourself if you're not honest. If you've made a mistake, are genuinely sorry, but know you would damage something by exposing the truth, then perhaps it isn't necessary to spill all the beans. Make your peace with yourself. Then, on the other side - it you are out right lying to someone, you have to deal with it, because that's putting another person in harm's way. From what I've read from you, you've been severely hurt in life and I know you wouldn't want to hurt anyone else. You are an intelligent person - weigh the situation carefully, think of all the possible outcomes. But, yes, honesty is an imperative generally, a true foundation stone to any form of relationship, simply because it builds trust.
Christopher
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9 posted 1999-09-06 01:41 AM


I agree that this is a tough one DE. But first you have to define what honesty is. No offense to anyone above, but it seems the concensus is that honesty is speaking truthfully. But isn't honesty mosr than that. I think honesty is a state of being, rather than truthful words. IE: If one were honest, they wouldn't cheat on a partner in the first place.
And I believe that it is very important to be honest, (as said JP said) both with yourself and others. How can you expect someone to be honest with you....

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