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quote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ap-poll-majority-of-americans-still-express-negative-view-of-blacks/2012/10/27/421d683a-2009-11e2-8817-41b9a7aaabc7_story.html? tid=pm_politic s_pop |
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quote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/26/lawrence-wilkerson-colin-powell-sununu_n_2027721.html |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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quote: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/the-gops-geography-and-the-confederacy.html |
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AH, yes, the race card, the last gasp of a desperate party. |
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quote: http://talkbusiness.net/2012/10/rep-jon-hubbard-slavery-a-blessing-in-disguise/ |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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quote: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/us/politics/ohio-early-voting-battle-flares-after-racial-comment-by-republican-official.html |
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" and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president" Of course not....nothing to do with raising the debt to 16 trillion, having 15 million more people on food stamps, having 22 million people unemployed, lowering the value of the average middle class family by over 4,000 per year, squandering the billions of the stimulus money without producing the results he promised to produced, not producing a budget in his entire presidency that could be passed by the house that not even democrats would vote for....etc, etc, etc.... All race.....right. As I said, the last act of desperate men. Obama would be a sub-standard president if he were purple...or lily white. I'm assuming that the blacks who voted for him and now have changed their minds to vote against him (and there is a very large number, including some very influential characters)must all be just Uncle Toms.......just another excuse for Obama to use, as he has used dozens more. |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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If republicans had been at all concerned about the legacy left by George W. Bush I might buy that argument mike. But, it looks a little like the Brooklyn bridge. |
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An excerpt from an article by Newsweek, referring to Obama. I ask the same questions....thank you, Newsweek. "By Matt Patterson (columnist – opinion writer) Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, the result of a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job? Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer;" a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor"; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?" |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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Just more of the same, fact-free, racist vituperative we're so used to Mike. |
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I see nothing non-factual there nor anything that relates to race...but it is not surprising that you do, since race seems to be the chant of the moment. |
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Brad Member Ascendant
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I am curious, Mike. Are facts important? Are the statements of the candidate that you want important? Are the fact that they change important? |
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Call a rock bread and try to eat it, Brad. The fact will break your teeth. What the candidates say are largely unimportant. They are trying to get elected. Are the facts that were reported in the article important with regards to Obama's background and lack of any viable experience important? Considering the, er, fact that the results are validated by his inabilities to perform a job he was not qualified for, yes, makes them valid, or at least important. LR contends that the republicans are the race-baiters when, in fact, going back through the history of the past 50 years, facts will bear out that the opposite, in fact, are true. Obama was asked months ago (and, no, I don't have the link) if the race card would be used in the campaign and his response was "Not uless we have to." Apparently it has gotten to the point where they have to. |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
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. Anyone who did not vote for Obama before is a racist period. Anyone who does not vote for Obama now is a racist period. Simple. . |
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SOmeone mention race.....?? ![]() |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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'the chant of the moment'..... More racism |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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A little quick on the draw again Mike? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/10/chain-email/obama-didnt-write-that/ |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
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. By the way, any Republican who criticizes Mao Tse-tung is a racist. . |
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Good grief! A staunch Republican actually having the grace to move away from silly political partisanship and praise a good President doing a great job. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/30/new-jersey-christie-obama-response-sandy |
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Mike? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/10/chain-email/obama-didnt-write-that/ |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
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. This has been going on for at least half a century that I personally know about . . . At some point individual by individual it just doesn’t work anymore . . . There is no open refusal to any longer wear the guilt yoke, but I suspect it will be reflected on election day. . |
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Reb and Moonbeam......I hate when that happens but I am guilty of not checking it thoroughly enough. My apologies.... I do know that Obama had described his grandmother as a "typical stereotyped white woman." Moonbeam, I have no problem with Christie praising Obama. It simply shows that Christie can set aside politics to recognize good work from a man who he is politically against.....kudos to Christie and to Obama for acting in such a manner to warrant the praise. Lr...chant of the moment is racist, too??? Ah, I see. African tribes dance around while chanting so that must be what I was referring to, right? Keep that chant going, sir. |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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Thank you john, for so adeptly illustrating how republicans play victim when they are called out for their racism. Republicans have been so disadvantaged by this, are unable to find jobs, go to the best schools, make lots of money, and hardly ever become president. Poor, poor, republicans. |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
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. So you believe all Republicans are in that wicked 1%. Who knew . . . . |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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Yes, because that would make as much sense as believing all republicans are 80% of republicans. |
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Huan Yi Member Ascendant
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. "Yes, because that would make as much sense as believing all republicans are 80% of republicans." Which no doubt makes perfect sense to many Democrats. . |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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John, are you one of those democrats then? Because I notice that it's your arguments, and only yours, that are attributing the attitudes of the 80% to the 100%. If you don't like racism, you should be one of the republicans working to get it out of your party instead of denying, deflecting, and defending. |
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Check out the actions of the past 60 years, LR, and then tell us which party was more instrumental in helping blacks and which one was against. Almost gotta hand it to democrats. They keep pointing fingers and screaming about the right being racist, hoping that no one actually takes the time to investigate their own past. Obama was hired because he was black. He will be fired because he is incompetent. |
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Tim Senior Member
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I took the poll and thank goodness I wasn't determined to be a racist even though I am a Republican. I did answer the questions truthfully to the best of my ability because I was interested in what the results would be. It might be noted the poll results on their face do not show racism. To get the results, the results are interpreted to determine "unconscious feelings" in regards to race. The first half of the test consists solely of questions to determine if your political views are aligned towards Democrats or Republicans. You also indicate who you have previously voted for and will vote for in the future. Then you have what I would consider to be some really top-notch intellectual type questions. "It’s really a matter of some people just not trying hard enough; if blacks would only try harder, they could just be as well off as whites.” agree or disagree or... “Irish, Italians, Jewish, and other minorities overcame prejudice and worked their way up. Blacks should do the same without special favors.” agree or disagree? I haven't beat my wife recently either. But the meat of the poll is to be shown photographs of caucasions intermixed with photgraphs of blacks along with good and bad words and then to push either the k or l key on your computer as quickly as possible in different combinations changing the relationship of black to white to good and bad words. Apparently how fast you push the appropriate key in the appropiate combination of photograph and word establishes your degree of racism. Either I am not a racist or I am a pretty good key puncher. Other academic research has come to starkedly different conclusions on the degree of racism in the United States. (Maybe they had you push different keys on the computer). In any event, I do not find it surprising the results were as found and the fact the poll was released by organization it was at the time it was in relation to the election. Does racism exist in the U.S.? Of course. There is a small minority of kooks on both ends of the political spectrum. If you are a Republican does that automaticaly make you a racist? Only in the eyes of the far left in the Democratic party and polls interpreted by biased organizations. Let's decide the election on the issues. |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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Mike, 60 years ago there were these fellows named Eisenhower and Rockefeller. They would be drubbed out of today's Republican party. There were also these fellows called Dixicrats. What we 've been trying to get you, and other Republicans to recognize for years now, is that those fellows left the Democratic party and have aligned themselves with this thing that's now called the Republican party which began as a result of johnson's signing of the civil rights act, and congruently with Nixon's Southern Strategy. Tim, you can blame the test, blame the messenger, blame the Democrats, and blame science if you want. Oh, yeah, it's that last word that's the problem. 60 years ago Republicsns believed in science. |
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Quite the myopic view of the past, LR. I could show you why....but why waste the time when you know it as well as I? Besides, you would probably call it racial. |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
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Jay Leno once asked Dolly Parton how she felt about dumb blonde jokes. She said they didn't bother her because she's not dumb or blonde. Interesting results indeed. |
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