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threadbear
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0 posted 2010-02-19 02:02 AM


Perhaps you are like me: you're tired of the ad hominems, the platitudes, the holding of a political party above values.  Last night I heard on Sean Hannity, Bob Beckel's brother: Graham Beckel.  Bob is a straightup liberal, while his brother is an actor and a moderate conservative.  Graham really pinned it, describing why people have some problems with liberals and Obama.  He said something that should be logged SOMEWHERE for posterity.  Tell me if you don't agree with this:

" The everyman out there, right now, who doesn't have an allegiance on either side,
is saying:  'What the Hell are you doing with liberty?"    
Why is there no reflection from the President of the United States on this very simple notion of people's liberty?  
Why is it all about the Collective?
Why is it all about stuff that is the idea of some think tank out there?
Why not let the people fend for themselves and create for themselves?
Why is it you {liberals} insist on making decisions for people?
At this point, it's becoming dangerously oppressive.
The rhetoric coming out of the left, at this point, actually, is silly.  But the continued attempts at this stuff ... people resent it!  and I don't blame them for resenting it because it's not helpful to people's true aspirations.
People right now need to be encouraged - they need to be uplifted.  They don't need a whole bunch of 'collectivist' notions, that they can't relate to, which are so abstract, and yet they know it's going to hit them right in the pocketbook and it's going to limit their own choices in life. "


(Editors note: I transcribed this.  Apologies if an error was made.)


In this picture, Graham is on the left; Bob on the right.
Most people don't know who these guys are, so I posted the stillshot.
Feel free to delete it, Ron/Mike, if there any problems with it.

[This message has been edited by threadbear (02-19-2010 03:54 AM).]

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1 posted 2010-02-19 08:29 AM


Delete it? I'd like it printed on a T-shirt!

A call for individualism in this country seems to be a thing of the past. Encouraging people to be all they can be  falls into the same category. The qualities that made this country great are now qualities to be ashamed of, so it seems. The "good" is now designed to be for the collective. Accept that and let the government take care of you. That seems to be the rallying cry of the government.

Yes, I agree that the people are getting tired of it.

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2 posted 2010-02-26 08:24 PM


I saw this show, around 4:00 a.m. or so when I couldn't sleep.

I wondered then, why it wasn't seen
in the hours that need be.

The script, for the most part, is exactly how I remember it. My surprise was the toss of the coin, of the brothers who were on their own side.




Bob K
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3 posted 2010-02-26 09:21 PM



     How did the other respond?

[This message has been edited by Bob K (02-27-2010 03:53 AM).]

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