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LeeJ
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0 posted 2006-04-07 03:05 PM


I don't know if this is the right forum to post this in, but it is in response to Ron's suggestion.

My comment was this:

I'm going to try and comment/contribute to this thread again...since someone deleted my comment yesterday...and by the way, if I offened anyone I'm very sorry...

You questioned this:

but to think that there could be people on this site or anywere on the internet who want to come after you or only care about hurting you.

My answer first to you would be cautious who you give personal information out to....we would like to believe it's a perfect world, but unfortunately it is not, and there are people who this world who like to hurt others...these people to me are bullies...men/women who have no conscience or don't care about hurting others, they are only concerned with immediate and self gratification...we are hearing out here on the news everyday about internet preditors...and what parents should do to oversee their childrens activities on the internet.

I'm a giving person, warm and friendly and would like to believe that these people do not exist, but they do...and I'll say the same thing I said yesterday...but in a perhaps different way...If any of these people would come to my home and try to hurt mine (family, friends, grand children...etc)
I have taken target practice and lessons and I would protect them all, with my life...if it came down to it...I would...this is not revenge, but a warning to anyone who would harm a child, or family member, or friend...and I think anyone out there who reads this feels the same way.  Something kicks in when you see someone being bullied, picked on or harmed in any way...it's a parental thing I think...but yes, I would definately not hesitate to protect my own...and if that offends anyone, I'm terribly sorry...but it's a matter of taking care of those who are less equipped to protect themselves against criminals, preditors and bullies who would harm them.  

Now, back to the thread...I feel sad, that for anything good out there, there is always someone who finds a way to break the law or gain in a corrupt way from it...but that's life, so it is my suggestion to play it safe and think of yourself and your families safety, and be cautious, or counsel first with someone you know, who might help you make decissions about this.  

Good topic...thank you for bringing it to our tables.

I really, really do hope I haven't offended anyones feelings here...and if I have, I'd really like to know about it so I might be able correct it.


Ron
Your Comment Was

Lee, your predilection for violence is either off-topic (when they come to your house they stop being computer stalkers) or a gross overreaction to a non-violent crime. That's why your earlier post was removed and why this one is very close to the line. Fortunately for the rest of the world, you don't get to decide who gets shot. Most of us still live in a world where law and order prevail over target practice.

If you would like to continue a discussion of why blowing people away when you get offended isn't appropriate, please start a new thread.

First Ron I'd like to say, I'm not a violent person..and second, this is not a discussion about me liking to blow people away every time I get offended.

And maybe I'm taking this to a much more serious step then the original thread meant.
but...every single night on the news lately, there have been reports of computer stalkers who pretend to be kids and lure children into their web, meeting them in motels, etc.  And there have also been reports of computer stalkers on the news who can type in your name, and find directions right to your home, who have graduated from computer stalkers to physically stalking people in their own home towns.  

I've never shot anyone...nor pointed a gun at anyone, but, I've had someone attack my mother...and believe me...if it be my mother, my son, my grand daughter, family member or friend...if someone enters my home, or trys to take a child, I will use what ever necessary and is the closest to my fingertips, even if a lamp to defend those people.  

Ron, I remember another pipster member making a statement...that they were home cleaning their guns...and nothing was ever said to that person...and by the way, I took that person's comment as factual, and yet in a humorous way, which I also meant my comment to be.  

I'm not a person who believes in blowing people away and frankly am quit stunned and hurt that you would think me to be and make the statement you made in your comment.  Actually shocked, as I thought these forums were for speaking your mind.  

I'm just thinking, and saying with all due respect...is it that perhaps you might be against guns and I might have touched on a sensitive issue within your beliefs...

I respect your beliefs...but in the same...I will say again...I am certainly far from being the kind of person who likes violence, will rather run from it then face it or confrontations...but...when it comes to your own family, in the event they are being asulted, I will protect them with my life, be it a lamp for a weapon, a gun, or a broom.  

And I'm quit certain, with all the goings on within cyber world, all the warnings to parents to inspect their children's computers each and everyday, to oversee the websites they are participating in, and also checking their emails, also considering identity theft, preditors, stalkers...your dealing with unstable minds, people who do & will take it further then the computer...into the home of their victims.  You cannot predict what an unstable mind will do...these people who are computer preditors and stalkers might take it to the next step and do.  I've seen police on TV pleading with parents to gain more information about how to oversee and protect our children.  I will say, though, neither you or I can predict what these people will do...and I was simply taking it to the next step in the other forum to express that along with all the fun and enjoyment computers and meeting people can be...it also can be very dangerous, unfortunately.

Now, on the other side of the coin, there are wonderful, vibrant good people out there in cyber world, honorable, warm and kind, and thank God for those people...but, all it takes is one, Ron, one deranged person to not only destroy the life of another, but also, everyone who has ever known and loved that person/victim/child.

yes, Ron, I stand corrected, I did take the threads topic to the next step and got off the subject...but I am "not" a violent person, nor do I enjoy violence...and I was rather taken aback by your comment.  Maybe it's me?  

Perhaps I sound rather tough, so to speak as I'm writing passionately about a topic and I grew up with boys, being the only girl in the neighborhood, and I know sometimes I do come off like a little toughie...and I've certainly got flaws, more then moist...  I'm not perfect nor do I have all the answers... From the sounds of it, I really need to rethink my comments, otherwise I don't believe you would have deleted it, or replied so adamently.  

I'm very sorry you feel that way, but more so, very sorry I've projected myself in such a way that you would think me that kind of person or find it necessary to repromand me and delete my comment. I'm very embarrased to boot, but will try harder to project in a much more acceptable way.  

thank you for the opportunity to discuss

Lee J.


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1 posted 2006-04-07 03:36 PM


"Most of us still live in a world where law and order prevail over target practice."

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry--though I am capable of doing both at once.

(The family and I are seriously considering those shutters with the crosses cut in--)

But anyhow, Ron's right about one thing though.

Internet stalking is a nuisance.

When the real deal is standing outside your front door, the gravity of that difference is markedly understood.


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