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McMongrel
Junior Member
since 2008-03-02
Posts 17
North Carolina, USA

0 posted 2008-03-17 06:06 AM



The words won't dance.
My tuneless song leaves
them cold.
They stand like wallflowers
in awkward silence.

I cannot create Montale's music.
Bukowski's beat escapes me.
The Ovidian opera is a hopeless dream.
I write down words that have no
dancing shoes.

They are like deaf men at the opera.
Pavorotti has always been dead to them.
But perhaps if they stand in
the wings the beat will
rise from the floor
through their feet
and set them
to tapping.

The words speak to me,
imparting wisdom gained through
years of flying promiscuously from
poet to poet.
Be true to your voice, they say.
Do not twist your words
to the ear of those who
read them. Those who
will hear you will
hear you.



© Copyright 2008 McMongrel - All Rights Reserved
RCat
Member
since 2008-02-16
Posts 70

1 posted 2008-03-17 11:07 AM


McMongrel, I must say IMO this is much better effort in relation to what preceded. Your attention to spelling and basic grammar is noted, and you’ve done a nice job exploring a coherent stream of metaphor here.  

IMO this is a nice draft that needs to be trimmed and polished. I also think you need to alter the diction into a contemporary style rather than reach back per se.  You could actually use this as a device in the poem --- your “old voice” in the opening and your true voice (which is always rooted in the Now) emerging in the last stanza or two.

Here’s a quick clipping as I would tend to gravitate. I dropped the extended “music metaphor” because this has been used to the point of cliché. I believe my revision maintains your core message, but with more compact structure.

Feel free to throw it in the trash --- I am not intending to say “look this is better.”  It’s simply MY crit and edit of YOUR poem.  However, I do think you should note how much tighter your poem can be.  In addition, I highly recommend you read contemporary poetry and leave the “old men” in the past.  This is especially true if you have any ambitions of being viable today verses a reflection of past years.  

Good luck, and keep up the good work.  
    

My words will not dance, they stand
like geraniums in dried silence. No Montale
music. No Bukowski beat. Ovidian

verse is hopeless dream. My words are
like old men feeding pigeons in the park.  
But suddenly—after years of promiscuous

fancy from poet to poet—true words come
to me: I am not Montale. I am not Bukowski.
I am the infinitely singular  universe of me.



A.Grace
Junior Member
since 2008-03-02
Posts 31

2 posted 2008-03-17 11:33 PM


McMongrel,

I love the idea of this poem.  Fantastic!  However I do think the line breaks need to be improved.
(example)
They are like deaf men at the opera.
Pavorotti has always been dead to them.
But perhaps if they stand in the wings
the beat will rise from the floor
through their feet
and set them to tapping.


I really liked the first and second stanzas.  The metaphor/comparisons were great, it grabbed me.  The rest of it kind of faded away.

I do think RCat's version is really good.  I think you do need to trim yours up a bit.  I'd maybe follow along the line of RCat's revision, he cut out quite a bit, however, it had the great parts in it.  Something to think about.

I loved this, it's a great poem.

A.

oceanvu2
Senior Member
since 2007-02-24
Posts 1066
Santa Monica, California, USA
3 posted 2008-03-19 06:03 PM


Hi, Ralph:  RE:  "In addition, I highly recommend you read contemporary poetry and leave the “old men” in the past.  This is especially true if you have any ambitions of being viable today verses a reflection of past years."

A wonderful example of youthful arrogance.  Not a problem.  It is the job of youth to reject the past.  Each generation may reject and/or reformulate the past. On the other hand, a knowledge of the "past"  (Bukowski and "old man?"  Yeesh!) gives the new generation a sense of what it is possible to be different from.  Very little happens in a void.

You might think about recouching this statement as a proposition and put it up in The Alley or P101.  Then duck.  

Jimbeaux

  

oceanvu2
Senior Member
since 2007-02-24
Posts 1066
Santa Monica, California, USA
4 posted 2008-03-19 06:18 PM


Hi McMongrel!  RE:

"Be true to your voice, they say.
Do not twist your words
to the ear of those who
read them. Those who
will hear you will
hear you."

Well put, and unless one sets out to write generic verse or generic fiction, more true than not.  Individual expression is one of the joy's of working with poetry. Poetry today is not exactly a mass media phenomenon.  If you wish to be heard, well, good.  If you don't wish to be heard, well, good too.  Neither intention has much to do with poetry per se, so you just do what you do.

This poem suggests that you are doing well, thinking about what you are thinking about.  This is a little less common than might be presumed.

Best, Jimbeaux

RCat
Member
since 2008-02-16
Posts 70

5 posted 2008-03-20 02:31 PM


oceanvu2, I'm not a youngster myself (pushing 50) and don't take things so literal on a poetry site...
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