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hoot_owl_rn
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0 posted 1999-10-18 04:30 PM


(What can I say, it's my first...I promise something a bit better before this workshop is over)

Witches In Flight

Oh my, you cry
Spiders and bats
The witches fly
In big black hats

Spiders and bats
Witches in flight
In big black hats
Are out this night

Witches in flight
Up in the air
Are out this night
In hopes to scare

Up in the air
Ugly bats fly
In hopes to scare
As you pass by

Ugly bats fly
The white ghosts glow
As you pass by
There down below

The white ghosts glow
The witches fly
There down below
Oh my, you cry




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This is courage...to bear unflinchingly what heaven sends. ~Eurpides

© Copyright 1999 Ruth Kephart - All Rights Reserved
Alicat
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1 posted 1999-10-18 06:10 PM


Like me, a first attempt. And a wonderful pantoum is created. I love the interlocking rhyme scheme, and the continuance of the initial theme. Only thing I noticed was the switching between iambic and trochaic. Other than that, splendid job, Hoot!

Alicat

Munda
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2 posted 1999-10-18 06:11 PM


Ah, Hoot...Applause ! : )
hoot_owl_rn
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3 posted 1999-10-18 06:29 PM


Hell Alicat, I wouldn't know a trochaic rhyme scheme if it bit me in the butt. I kid you guys not when I say I know nothing about poetry, I just write it

HELP NAN.....I must have neglected to read that chapter

Munda, thanks

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This is courage...to bear unflinchingly what heaven sends. ~Eurpides

Marilyn
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4 posted 1999-10-18 07:13 PM


What can I say hoot....I too know little about the technical side of things. You did a good job though. Even if your not totally satisfied with it.


psssssssttttt...when your in class watch out for the spit balls and the signs put on your back. This class is full of clowns and practical jokers.



hoot_owl_rn
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5 posted 1999-10-18 07:16 PM


Thanks Marilyn and I wondered what that was in my hair, eeewwww....

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6 posted 1999-10-18 11:58 PM


Well done initial effort Ruth. You carried a well developed theme throughout and that can be difficult.

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Now and forever, my heart hears ~one voice~.
DreamEvil©


Nan
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7 posted 1999-10-19 08:37 AM


Well, that's what you get for getting to class late... It's a darn good thing you're a good student...hehe - always worked for me too...

OK - so your structure is intact - Your theme wraps nicely around itself - and you've used a very simple iambic dimeter for your rhythm - and it works - I'll break it apart for you and show you (but next time be more punctual, OK?)

oh-MY/you-CRY
spi-DERS/and-BATS
theWITCH/es-FLY
in-BIG/black-HATS

spi-DERS/and-BATS
witch-ES/in-FLIGHT
in-BIG/black-HATS
are-OUT/this-NIGHT

witch-ES/in-FLIGHT
up-IN/the-AIR
are-OUT/this-NIGHT
in-HOPES/to-SCARE

up-IN/the-AIR
ug-LY/bats-FLY
in-HOPES/to-SCARE
as-YOU/pass-BY

ug-LY/bats-FLY
the-WHITE/ghosts-GLOW
as-YOU/pass-BY
there-DOWN/be-LOW

the-WHITE/ghosts-GLOW
the-WITCH/es-FLY
there-DOWN/be-LOW
0h-MY/you-CRY

....um.... I wouldn't change a thing, hoot.. Meter is something that simply "exists" within you - You don't necessarily have to know all the technical terms to do it properly...

Check this out - and you can JP for it... Witch Wrong Turn?

Nan




[This message has been edited by Nan (edited 10-19-1999).]

hoot_owl_rn
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8 posted 1999-10-19 08:42 AM


Dream, thanks a lot

Nan, I thought the meter was intact, but when Alicat made that statement about it, I second guessed myself. I don't know meter types, I simply tap out my meter with my hands, if I can tap out a rhythm, I know the meter is good or nearly good. Thank you.

Nan
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9 posted 1999-10-19 08:25 PM


Ruth - You got your reward - Check out that Witch Wrong Turn link ...
Alicat
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10 posted 1999-10-20 08:28 AM


Ok Nan...guess it's that regional dialect thingy again.

For some strange reason, I pronounce spider as SPY/der, which is where I got the trochaic measure. Thank you for the breakdown of metered beats as you see it, for it does verify that Hoot's work was perfect and very well crafted from the git-go. And though it's early morning finding me sans sleep, I'm not being silly or flippant. Hoot, don't change a thing...I loves this one.

Alicat the sleep deprived

Nan
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11 posted 1999-10-20 08:21 PM


Persnikitty
The word spider, spoken alone is trochaic - You're right - but in context, that can change....

e.g. - Are there any spiders here?
..sounds like --- are-THERE-a-NY-spi-DERS-HERE?

Local dialects can also affect intonation...

I can see lots of discussion about syllable stress on the horizon...

So everybody is right - Isn't that special??

hoot_owl_rn
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12 posted 1999-10-20 08:48 PM


Enjoys being right Thanks for the graphic Nan
Nicole
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13 posted 1999-10-20 11:10 PM


Hoot...you seem to give us this 'first time' preamble, and then smack down a perfect poem..hmmm... You have talent I could only dream of having, keep it up.
hoot_owl_rn
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14 posted 1999-10-21 09:43 AM


Satiate...what a wonderful compliment, thank you, but it goes undeserving....remember, I know what talent you have, I have seen your work

Skyfyre
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15 posted 1999-10-21 01:41 PM


Smiles ... you know what I like best about this? It appeals to everyone ... I read it, I loved it ... then I read it to my four-year-old, and she loved it too ... in fact, she's still marching about the house, reciting a few of the lines ... thank you for a most enjoyable read, Ruth!

Nocht

hoot_owl_rn
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16 posted 1999-10-22 01:45 AM


Grinning here, thank you Nocht, you just made my night. The picture of your 4 year old running around the house reciting lines to my poetry brought a huge grin to my face.....thanks
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