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georgek
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0 posted 2009-08-09 11:01 PM


I am a psychic, who knows little about poetry.
When I write, I see pictures and then words form.

I see a place called Red Rock Creek in Montana. Do not know if anything like this exists. Colours are very bright

Just see red rocks all around, as if cut by wind erosion, as I lay dying.

The rocks are very sandy and blood red, and it is very warm, as I take a pound in the chest.

What is Montana and does anyone know of a 'Red Rock'

Afraid I know nothing about America, but I feel that I must have died in this place called Montana.

Need feedback, as I have a writers block,so that I can concentrate better.

George


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1 posted 2009-08-09 11:16 PM


I'm afraid your soul is in the wrong forum, George...transferring to Feelings.
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2 posted 2009-08-10 12:05 PM


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3 posted 2009-08-10 12:47 PM


Nearly correct...

The soul remains in the spiritual world. It is the forum that interacts with the body which relays thoughts to the soul.

Here is where everything we have ever learned is stored. It is our conscious of knowing right from wrong. Relatively based on our development.

You use your mind, as a poet. The trouble is that you do not realise what you are using.

No one has taught you the gift of poetry...you either have it, or you don't.

Some people have it, but have got to be taught how to use it.

I am no poet, but I am a good psychic. So I see clearer than you. Although yours may be better.

All good poets are psychics....like you are.

Learn the gift, accept it and THEN you will have thousands of lives to tap into.

Sorry...I am preaching...rule broken.
But please...see this as my opinion.
Regards George

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4 posted 2009-08-10 01:14 AM


Why don't you Google "Red Rock Creek, Montana" to get basic information?
[URL=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=red+rock+creek+montana&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=red+rock+creek+montana&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=[/UR L]  

You can see images if you click on the "Images" tab at the top of the page.

Referring back to your post/rant in the Poetry Workshop, I never realized that Christians rejected the possibility of people being psychic.  Guess that's one more thing that I am ignorant of.

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5 posted 2009-08-10 11:13 AM


I don't mean to sound vague, but could you tell me more?  I'm a new poet, or non-poet, and I'm just trying to figure it out.

Rileigh

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6 posted 2009-08-10 11:29 AM


Personally, I don't care what people think of psychics, but unfortunately I have to carry their burdon for the blunders  that they may make.

Oh my gosh, to escape cynicism in a Christian environment is very hard indeed.
Perhaps the word derives from SINicism. We believe that all people are within the grace of God (gods) no matter what we may not repent. To have a crowd pray to a god is respect indeed....
But when our god answers us back,we are regarded as mad men.

I believe we are all psychic...just some are able to use and accept the gift.

This si what I believe poetry is all about...understanding the universe by the 'flower that blossoms in our hand'

We see God in nature, and nothing ever dies.The first thing that a poet should see.

There is no death, only birth and rebirth, and all the the rain that pours and the dust that settles is for a reason.

This is the ability of God, and the ability of the psychic to see, and the poet to understand.

Now tell me that I am wrong?

If we see and do not understand, how do we call ourselves mediums of the pen?

To 'paint' what the heart sees, as the snow falls and the flower dies....is not a SIN.

Unless we turn our heads and pretend that we do not see. Then blindness be our companion, as not to open the eyes of others.

So you are saying that this place exists?
The reason I asked, is because I wrote another poem which someone said that the place existed.

I have no physical recollection of Montana, or even if a Red Rock Creek exists. This is not a trick. I asked because, I did not want to be mislead by name spelling and pictures.
George

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7 posted 2009-08-10 11:48 AM


I don't mean to sound vague, but could you tell me more?  I'm a new poet, or non-poet, and I'm just trying to figure it out.

Rileigh

Sorry Rileigh,

Your post came through as I was writing. I left school illiterate, and told that I could not write.

When I was eight years of age, I remember my mum brought me one of those pencil sharpeners with a die cast metal globe.

I was so excited and could not wait to try out my new toy.

Picking up three badly soiled and blunt pencils, I discovered that none of the pencils would sharpen. The wood was almost dark grey and rge points wereabsolutely blunt.

I held the points of the three pencils in my left hand and the pencil sharpener in my right.

My mother came into the room and I threw the pencil sharpener on the floor, as I opened my left hand to show that the sharpener was useless.

I dropped the pencils on the floor with sheer shock, as in my palm lay three perfectly sharpened pencils.

A n inner voice seemed to explain, that "What does it matter if the sharpener did not work, as long as the pencils were sharpened"

I never really understood at the time, and I shall never forget.

About six years ago, a ghost dog would get into my bed, snap it's teeth around my right wrist as to pull me out.

I began writing, as people said that my poetry was incredible. Forums ask me to comment on other peoples poetry, but I cannot, because I am not really a taught poet.

So you see...I belive poetry is like a gift. The same as writing music or painting a picture. It comes from within. Deep in our very souls from the meaning of life.

We are all poets, like some people are engineers who can make things. Yet get an engineer who can see the cogs turning and the clocks going round and then you have talent.

Probably I am about 1% poet and 80% psychic, whereby most here are probably 90% poets and 1% psychic.

Take that 1% and make it better and then see what you have.

George


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8 posted 2009-08-10 03:12 PM


I kind of get it, it'll take a while to understand.  Right now I'm guessing I'm 1% poet and 1% psychic lol.  Like many, I'm still trying to find my niche in the world.

Rileigh

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9 posted 2009-08-10 03:46 PM


Thanks Rileigh,

Please remember this is my unorthodox opinion and I am sure differs greatly to Mr.Balandeer's training technique.

We are all psychic. It is just, that some may not realise.

Sometimes we get 'gut feelings'
This is our psychic analytcal churning machine from the Solar Plexis or silver chord.

Or our mind's eye (the third eye)

Regards George



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10 posted 2009-08-10 04:37 PM


Oh great, my head is spinning even more.
This is a high school student trying to decipher the words of someone who is clearly more educated.  I think I'm going to have to do some research.

I have a question though, are those physic quizzes online actually accurate, or should they be regarded as fake?

Rileigh

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Many become what they are so eager to be, to believe in an illusion is to make fiction fact.

This may seem as a slight towards you but I promise it is not.

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12 posted 2009-08-10 09:51 PM


Hello Rileigh,

Perhaps your head is spinning because you are trying to use it? (no offence)

You see the head is just the vehicle of thought. It is the chisel that cuts the wood.

The hardware of your computer is the physical or the tool that drives the software. When we cannot touch the software, we sometimes think that it is not there. Yet it is the creativeness of our hardware. Just like the mind (soul) is the creativeness of our physical brain.

Yet the brain controls not only the mind, but the functional part of our bodies.

Such as the arms, legs, eyes and mouth.
Just like the computer controls both BIOS and Windows.

The reason why your head may be spinning is because it is trying to place LOGIC to undermine what your mind is telling you. It wants to remain respectable, logical and accepted.

This is where I differ, because I don't care what I say, as our friend may realise. I say what I think and feel.

So when our physical brain...is made to feel unimportant, it allows the mind to act.

Hence a 'Piece of my mind' The mind is volatile, so I forgive him....lol

Now if that were my brain saying it...well...I would remember him for a long time...lol. (who is this guy?)

hmmm...

There are lot of fake psychics about, but there are some who make mistakes. I am no fake. Even with 'Montana' I make mistakes. This is why I have to ask others what I am talking about.

I have now finished my poem. 'Blood Red Rose of Montana'
George

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13 posted 2009-08-10 10:08 PM


Hello Lost Poet,

I am afraid others may differ on this. I think on one psychic forum, they were trying to extradite me to America for the FBI, after they lost on line.

The name they gave me, was 'gopher' and 'ferret', fake to start with, but gradually other things. I feel flattered in a way with 'gopher' and 'ferret' because they could not find a better answer.

Anyway, let's talk about poetry.

George


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14 posted 2009-08-10 10:24 PM


Yeah, I can get why I don't get it... If that makes sense.  In school, I like math and science, so all I need is logic.  Trying to let go of the only thing I know to try to understand you is hard...

On another note, do you ever have thoughts that are at the edge of your mind? Like thoughts that you know are there, but you don't know what they are?  I know I probably make no sense at all...

Rileigh

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Lol. I once thought I was psychic!! We were having this drawing for a giant art set at Art Camp and I knew they were gonna call me and they did! Lol. But I might think that's just coincidence. Haha.

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16 posted 2009-08-10 10:51 PM


Ahh...now you see.

I too failed maths at school. When I got my ass kicked more time than I can remember.

Later on in life, I was told that I had to come to terms with my failure.

So I went to university at the age of about (thinks 29-30-31)

Dare I say 36?
The good thing about going back to school at that age, was that most of my teachers were dead. So no one knew what a dunce I was!

You know, although I failed at school......It was still in my mind, because I was thrashed so hard, that it must be repetitive shock syndrome that made me remember.

The mistake I was doing, was using my brain instead of my mind. Well...I got my degree science and ended up with a little less hair on my head from the heat.

I soon realised taht lecturers taught in 'parrot fashion' and did not really understand what they were teaching.

This became more clear to me, regarding the sine wave.

What the hell is a sine wave? If you think about it....

It does not exist. It is just a two dimensional wave of a particle's trace.

Yet know one knows what a wave looks like, because they can only use their brain.

When you use your MIND, you realise that it is a sphere...a radiating ball in third/fourth maths derivative.

Take it one step further, and the brain shuts down, as the mind travels further.

The ball gets squashed and the x axis pulls apart to infinity and you get warp speed as light bends.

We have now left the 'here/now' amd have travelled into our world of so called illusion. Or the mind astral where all knowledge is kept.

As we travel further, we start to lose our here now and get into a trans state.

This is the scientific journey. The junkie journey to those on 'happy pills'

Hence the reason why some artist take drugs to create art. Don't do this, as it is wrong.

Anyway...sorry to bring the headache back..lol

George

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17 posted 2009-08-10 10:57 PM


Hello Falling Rain.

With the psychic...there is no such thing as 'coincidence'

The world is in accute balance, as every single force can sway a leaf.
'Coincidence'  does not exist. Everything happens for a reason.

When we play the tarrot or throw the dice or look at the tea leaves...it is not chance.

Just like when Abraham Lincoln was shot in a theatre?

George

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18 posted 2009-08-10 11:52 PM


That headache is back, no surprise.  Try to think of me as a 5th grader, then maybe I could understand.

I wonder if you overlooked my previous question...

"On another note, do you ever have thoughts that are at the edge of your mind? Like thoughts that you know are there, but you don't know what they are?  I know I probably make no sense at all..."

Rileigh

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19 posted 2009-08-11 12:33 PM


Hello Rileigh,
If I am reading you right....
You may be referring to premunitions?

We get feelings when something may not be right, or corrctiveness when things look right.
We cannot say why...but feel right about it.

Many times, on some forums...people will say:- "Prove it dude...or shut up"

Imagine how hard that must be? Yet to say "Prove that I am not?"
is equally hard. Yet the thing that makes it right is logic.(that is to the material minded) They say that they have numbers on their side, and have to be correct.

I had one guy who put a test on the Internet for psychics to say what he did for a living?

Very rarely am I wrong, but I kept calling him "Hickory Hollow"

You know what his job was?

He was a Yeti hunter in Hollow Creek where the Yeti is meant to live...lol


His job was to shout amongst the trees to try and see a Yeti...LOL

So he said: "Ahha...you have failed!"

In which I replied:- "Why do you think that I call you Hickory Hollow?"

Another guy once said that I was a fake and that I ought to eat red meat for more strength. I said that I could see him, and that he ought to get the red meat and shove it under his pony tail.


I thought..."Streth how did I see that?"

So he went quiet, and as days went by, I asked him how he wears his hair?

Yer...in a pony tail!

Fluke he said, and that no way dd I know what he looked like. So I took up his challenge after days of sarcasm and drew him.

Well....did it end?

NO.

He said:- "Right...tell me the name of my great Uncle?
Well..he had lost again, so I said that the next curse would be out of his own lips returning to him.

You know what he asked?

For a storm to hit the city of Maine?

Two days later, Hurricane Kyle turned in the Caribbean and made a charge towards Maine.

Sirans were ringing as Maine had it's first Hurrican watch for 17 years. Energency vehicles were on stand by as Maine was hit within the week.

People say that this is just lies, but it is live on the Internet.

I do not know the answers, but I believe that there are forces out there, and they feed society.

George


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20 posted 2009-08-11 07:58 PM


Sorry to ask so many questions, but does de ja vu have anything to do with being psychic, cause you know what drives me crazy?  Sometimes I feel like I'm having de ja vu and everything that's happening is so familiar, that I am sure I know what will happen next, and then it does.  It makes me mad though because it kind of creeps me out...

In reply to the last post:

I don't really mean premonitions, I don't think. I mean vague, extremely distant thoughts about what is happening in a completely different time and place.

Rileigh

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21 posted 2009-08-12 12:00 PM


"When you use your MIND, you realise that it is a sphere...a radiating ball in third/fourth maths derivative."

I wonder if you could explain that in terms I could understand. Sorry for not having the prior knowledge to follow everything you say...

Also, do you get what I mean in my last post?  I don't even get what I mean, so it's totally ok if you don't.

Rileigh

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22 posted 2009-08-12 12:33 PM


Hi Rileigh,

I was just referring to the illusion of the sine wave and the way that we interprete this wave form, based on our understanding.

I was saying that sometimes when people teach us things, they do not often understand what they are teaching and just repeat what they had been taught without understanding it.

I making the point, that when we use our mind, we become analytical by not just accepting, but trying to understand how things work.

That by using our deep understanding, solve problems.

So...

We start to see pictures, and this is what projects us to higher things.

What is your level of Calculus?

For example. We have the formular using:- Minus 'B' + and - the square root of 'B' squared over 2C. So the minus times a minus gives us a plus. Because we have a minus quantity in our equation, it would give our answer as a negative, which would be wrong.

So by equating our minus quantity to a plus factor, we can see our wave as a spring 3D formation.

Two diminsional science fails in a three diminsional world.

Yet our 'spring' is not our wave form in the fourth dimension, because by integrating the above formula, we form a globe.

As we integrate further, the time axis moves in our formula and the sphere gets squashed.

So we see this when using our minds, because in our minds, we have imagination.

So this is the key word 'Imagination' .

The ability to see beyond to what we have been told.

What I mean by this, is controlled imagination.

George

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23 posted 2009-08-12 12:45 PM




I think I need to repeat.. I'm a high school student.. I'm going to go into pre-calc this year, and I always thought I was pretty good at math, but clearly I'm missing something.

I guess my reading level isn't up to par either.  I'm really trying to understand you, because I think what you have to say is important to me, but you have no idea how hard this is!!!



Rileigh

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24 posted 2009-08-12 02:48 PM


Ahh! I was going to do something, and I thought my dad would open a door. Only he wasn't going to be home for a while...  Then he did open the door because he came home early. Hmmm.

Rileigh

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25 posted 2009-08-12 05:17 PM


Rileigh, my great-grandfather knew the exact date, hour and minute of his death.

The judge told him

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26 posted 2009-08-12 05:37 PM


Wait, what?  What's that supposed to mean?

Rileigh

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27 posted 2009-08-12 09:31 PM


this is really baffling me, perhaps I'm missing something important...

Rileigh

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28 posted 2009-08-12 11:43 PM


Hi Rileigh,

Sorry to have missed some of your questions, I had been 'skimming' through quickly.

Let me know if you come across any hard maths homework.

Going back to 'distant thoughts'...

Let me explain better.

We have our environment called the HERE/NOW.

This is our solidity of the material world.

When we have distant thoughts we ..let's say move in the Astral towards imagination. Most of the time we keep our conscious in the HERE/NOW and can relay experiences back to our brain or physical.

As we go deeper into the astral, the visions get stronger and we begin to let go of the HERE/NOW. So we get inacurate.

Go deeper and the normal person will go into the SLEEP/DAYDREAM state. Yet the trained acultist can go into a transcend altered state of trance.

The art is to remember and take back into our real HERE/NOW world the visions that we have seen.

This is how poetry works. On the surface many here, may just touch on the outskirts.

I go deep, and perhaps go back into previous experiences where I had died.  I do not have to know how to write, I had already been taught hundreds of years ago.

Ah they say...you can play the harp...it's a gift!!

Yer...you know why?

Because you bring it with you. You never die, rot or go to Hell. Hell is a place in Jerusalem where the sulpher pits are. The 'eye' of the needle' is actually what they called the main gate of Jerusalem. Just like 'The Golden Bowl' being the human aura.

There is no death, no matter how bad you are.
If we can love our enemies, it is hard to understand how a god can destroy us for believing one thing instead of another. We live, as you will because you are eternal. Likewise  your knowledge is also eternal.

Of course your god answers you...like he answers me, in poetry and wisdom. No one taught you to think, like no one can teach you to love. You either do or you don't.

Take it from one who has seen the other side, and is here.

Anyway..others may be listening, so I say no more.

Regards George


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29 posted 2009-08-12 11:49 PM


...did his heart stop beating at one time? ... this is really baffling me, perhaps I'm missing something important...

I think what he is saying is that the judge sent him to his execution and told him when he was going to be executed.

(somehow I don't think he came back...hope he took his traveller cheques with him)

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30 posted 2009-08-13 12:22 PM


Aww that's sad, I should've thought of that.  You know, you kind of have a way of making me feel under educated on this thread.  I'm not sure I can accept all of it anyway...

Rileigh


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31 posted 2009-08-13 12:48 PM


Hello Rileigh,

Don't put yourself down like this!
(let someone else do it)

Naw....I am only kidding!

Cor blimey...when I was your age, I was known as 'The Village Idiot'

Hmm...that guy is 'sharp'. It's only cos I know him. Anyway...he is a lot older than we are...so he is bound to be a bit more 'street wise'.

George

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33 posted 2009-08-13 02:40 PM


Hello Rileigh,

Make sure that if you play poker with him, you bring your barrel and a new set of cards. (Preferably, after you have paid your rent.)

George

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34 posted 2009-08-13 05:10 PM


George, guess what number I'm going to write, then we'll see if its right or not.

Rileigh

(I have the number written down at home, I promise :P)

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35 posted 2009-08-13 06:32 PM


Hi Rileigh,

I am sorry I must not do this. It would be some kind of party trick.

If I am right, it would be classed as a fluke. Then there would be more tests.
If I get it wrong..'Game set and match"

George


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36 posted 2009-08-13 07:06 PM


No one will hold you to anything... its just a guess for fun.  My friends and I do it all the time, and I'm usually a good guesser! (muahaha)  You can even make up your own rules if you want! (lol) but it's your choice.

Rileigh

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37 posted 2009-08-13 11:35 PM


Hello Rileigh,

I do take my work seriously, I am afraid to say. This is one thing that perhaps you will learn.

It is no joke or thrill seeking. You are young and your mind is 'open'

You have neither condemned or agree with me, which is good. I see you as a young innocent learning to walk.

This is one of the things that I had asked my suitor.

I was 15 at the time, and  four of us lads, had seen much.

Frank was the Medium, and I asked:-"Why us?..we are young, when there are so many inteligent older people with top jobs?"


The answer was so good, that I had never forgotten. "You are young, and your minds have not yet been filled...so we can teach you"

So...you grow older and wiser, and you ask questions like:- "What are the blue lights that flicker in the sky, and my space friends" and they would say: "You must never talk about such things....you imagined it"

So you look at your hands, see your eyes and look at the photographs they send you, and I have to pretend that there is nothing there, because those who have not seen, say that they know better"

There were always many things that I could not understand, and people kept telling me, that I psychic...and I just laughed.

Four years ago, a blue light hovered above me in bed, as night after night, I rejected it. Until one night it 'took me' as a brilliant blue ink poured over me. I thought I was going to die, as it swirled around me.

It touched my skin which made it  turn peppermint at the edge. Then it spoke in my head. Perhaps two thousand words in three seconds.

"Ask no more about the flicks....for now you shall see" It showed me how it was created...that there was no death, as it pointed to a stalagmite.

"see how it is formed...perfect, from thousands of years of rain water...there is no such thing as failure. It just means that you are not ready. I saw dead people, perhaps three thousand souls who all knew me. Each had made it home, as there was only one way to God. Back to the creator, through learning and more learning like the brook having found the sea. Yet each soul kept it's own identity...strange!

Here was perfect peace,like a stroll on a warm Sunday morning with church bells ringing. I had never known such peace. Then each spirit spiralled around me and flew out of the window. Rich people, poor people, priests and ragged people, until the last one bid me goodbye.

I was shown the Temple of Candles. There inside this large temple, were thousands of candles. Bright candles, stubby candles and some nearly spent flickering candles.

The voice said:

"Here lie a candle for each soul on the earth. The candle is a measure for the time left for each soul. To remind us when they shall be back."

Entities would enter this place and pary strength to those who would return. Great souls and prophets, often crucified for their belief. Good people, who suffered for the sake of rightiousness.

So you see Rileigh...it is no good to play with God's gift.

Regards George

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38 posted 2009-08-14 12:00 PM


You were right when you said: "You have neither condemned or agree with me"  I have been that way my whole life I'm pretty sure I will continue being like that for the rest of my life.

Rileigh

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39 posted 2009-08-14 01:03 AM


Just make sure you don't fall of the fence where they have a dog.

George

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quote:
I am sorry I must not do this. It would be some kind of party trick.

If I am right, it would be classed as a fluke. Then there would be more tests.

If I get it wrong..'Game set and match"

But you said you hardly ever get anything wrong, George? Why would you be frightened of more tests?

You are, however, half right. It is not just getting it wrong that is "game, set, and match," George, but rather any failure to get it right that proves you are a charlatan. You have, as expected, failed to get it right. A true psychic would have no need to refuse to answer direct questions. A true psychic would get it right.



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41 posted 2009-08-14 01:47 PM


I have to say I agree with Ron.  I also have very good balance, so I rarely fall.  And I like dogs btw.

Rileigh

georgek
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42 posted 2009-08-14 03:02 PM


Then I have to go back to your original question Ron.

You asked why God should bother with me, and that he does not need me.

You have found failure within failure because you cannot see success.

Whereby I see hope in everything, including you.

I see light within darkness, because I search for the light, but you say that there IS no light, as you know the answers based on knowing what God seeks.

To say:- "I know without seeing, is to say that I hear without listening"

This is why YOU are not listening.

You say this cannot be, because your senses tell you.

So...you see Ron, I would be doing no more than preach to you, for you have made up your mind.

Do I care?

No.

George

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43 posted 2009-08-14 03:45 PM


I could not help noticing, that the board requests to respect the belief of others.

It also says:- "Intolerance will not be tolearated" but it seems that I can be told that I am a 'charlaton' by the administrator.

Perhaps it would be better expressed that  exception occurs with administartor?

Am I offended?

Not really, but there must be people who think what I am thinking and dare so nothing.

Only those who will stick up to law and order on forums.

Pity us natives cannot say what we think...lol

George

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44 posted 2009-08-15 07:59 AM




quote:
It also says:- "Intolerance will not be tolearated" but it seems that I can be told that I am a 'charlaton' by the administrator.


Ron didn't call you a charlatan George - he simply pointed out the criteria required to be one.


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45 posted 2009-08-15 11:38 AM


quote:
You asked why God should bother with me, and that he does not need me.

I neither asked nor said any such thing, George. Not even close.

Nonetheless, you have what I would call a legitimate complaint. We do, indeed, try to respect the beliefs of and choices made by others. If I thought for a moment that you had actually convinced yourself you could accurately and without fail predict world catastrophes (but not Rileigh's numbers), I would feel we had failed you. However, it is not just your claims that are suspect, George, but your sincerity.

We strive to tolerate much, but we will never tolerate dishonesty, especially when you attempt to perpetrate it against young minds far more willing to grant you credibility than would an old cynic like me. Respect and tolerance doesn't mean you get to lie with impunity. You will be called on it.



Grinch
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46 posted 2009-08-15 02:43 PM



quote:
you have what I would call a legitimate complaint.


I think George may have another.

You locked his Duke of Chester post in feelings and suggested that feedback would be better placed on the poem itself. No problem with that. However, when you go to the poem in Open it's also locked, with a message suggesting it was second instance of the post in Feelings.

A heck of a catch 22.

I'm sure it's just a simple mistake but poor George may get the impression that he's being unfairly persecuted.


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47 posted 2009-08-15 03:46 PM


quote:
... with a message suggesting it was second instance of the post in Feelings.

I don't see that particular message, Grinch? I wasn't aware the thread had been closed, but it's not too difficult to discern why Mike might be prompted to do so.

This thread was closed because it seemed obvious to me that George was looking for a chance to "ooh, I don't know any history but look how much I intuited in my poem" again. And, of course, all that aside, it's a little silly to start a new discussion thread to talk about a poem just posted (and, at the time, with no replies yet). George got away with that once, but once was probably enough.

I have to guess, Grinch, that Mike closed the poetry thread not because there was a "second instance of the post," but because George insisted on trying to turn the thread to serve his own agenda. Feelings isn't the best place to discuss individual poems posted in Open, and Open isn't really the place to rant about our horrible pro-Christian prejudices. It's not a whole lot more complicated than that, I think.



Grinch
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48 posted 2009-08-15 04:09 PM



I didn't object to either being closed Ron, and, despite not being psychic, I pretty much guessed the reason in each instance.

Thanks for the explanation though; hopefully it'll avoid George wondering what the heck had occurred.

Or maybe he already knew - perhaps I should have asked him.


crosscountry83
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49 posted 2009-08-16 04:57 PM


That's punny, Grinch.  Thank you both for setting me straight.

Rileigh

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50 posted 2009-08-19 07:12 PM


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"A poet, any real poet, is simply an alchemist who transmutes his cynicism regarding human beings into an optimism regarding the moon, the stars, the heavens, and the flowers, to say nothing of Spring, love, and dogs."


George Jean Nathan

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priyanka
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51 posted 2009-10-05 08:15 PM


I absolutely agree with Rileigh.
This gets real creepy at times.
Its like I'm going through the same things again.
Like I've seen all this happen before
eerie

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