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Poet deVine
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Welcome to the moderator position. I would like to tell you why I don't post here! First, I'm terrified to try to critique someone's work - what I like is not important. So, tell me - - what makes a good critique?  |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Poet DeVine, Thanks for the support. I don't know what I've gotten myself into exactly but I plan to have to good time until Ron fires me.  What makes a good critique? How am I supposed to know?  I can only tell you what I like and ideas I'd like to see explored in this forum. First, everybody should go into more detail. If you like a poem, why do you like it? If you don't like a poem, why not? Every comment should be the beginning or the continuance of one long conversation. This does take a little more time then a simple 'good one' comment but not that much.Ask questions to the author. If you don't understand something, ask what he or she thinks; ask why a writer wrote in a certain way and not another. Engage a poem in such a way that the only real limitation is time. As much as possible, I'd like to see a flow of ideas moving around here. Eventually, I want to talk about interpretation but I have me own time limitations (and a wife who let me drink last night so today is her day). As much as possible, I would like everyone to concentrate a little bit more on comments here and less on posting as many poems as possible. Try to see this forum as one big creative process that can help you improve as a poet, not a judgment forum where people will tell you any particular poem is good or bad. In regards to that, if you post a poem here I'd like to see you comment on at least two other poems. Qualifications aren't important (Hell, it's just learning the terminology to explain what you like and don't like anyway); it's just a matter of asking yourself why you like a poem and telling someone or asking another person a question. If your poem is commented on, reply to that comment and read that person's poem and (of course) tell him or her what you think. Again, the only limitation should be time. By the way, I don't make rules; these are just guides to make this forum a more interesting place (I hope). I'll try to give more later. My god, have you guys created a monster or what? Brad |
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Poet deVine
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Do you read poetry in Open Forum also? I notice fewer people respond to poetry here than in Open..there are some poems in this forum that have no responses! How can we make others comfortable with 'critical analysis'? |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
You know, I've only read two poems at the open forum (time limitations). It's kind of funny because if you're terrified of giving a detailed critique, I'm terrified by the sheer volume of posts there (we all have our idiosyncracies). When I first arrived at Passions, I thought CA would be the place to discuss poetry by discussing an individual poem (my kinda place) but I wonder if people see it as a place where 'experts' give you advice with the goal of eventual publication. How do other people see this forum? Every reader is an expert in his or her own way and as long as we stress the conversation, the interaction that should go on here, I think we can all improve. I do hope you can spend a little more time here. Your comments on some of the poems are interesting. Thanks, Brad |
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Christopher
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-02
Posts 8296Purgatorial Incarceration |
Well come indeed Brad, and let me congratulate you on a post well deserved! (I'm still trying to answer your challenge!) I must say that I like your suggestions for this forum, perhaps they will make others feel more comfortable. On the flip side, I also wanted to add that I believe not that many people post here, because they want to show what they've done and are proud of. Some people don't feel they need criticism necessarily. But, to add another personal opinion, I think we ALL need a little criticism... how else to grow? Here's my goal: I will try to pay more attention to the CA forum, posting occasionaly, (can't handle too much abuse, LOL,) and will endeavor to respond to others who post here following the guidelines you've suggested! Welcome again Brad, may your reign be long and prosperous! [This message has been edited by Christopher (edited 09-26-1999).] |
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Poet deVine
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
I replied to roxane's post with no title. I can't judge the meter or the form - I can judge feelings. Brad would you read my analysis of her poem and let me know here what you think? Thank you. |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
I read your comment on Roxanne's poem and thought it was a good constructive critique. Form and technique are just two aspects of a poem (as are content and 'feel'). At any time, if you want to engage one aspect, what's wrong with that? A poet should be interested in what any reader has to say (and then choose to completely ignore it if he or she disagrees). I thought the point about the word 'incest' was particularly astute. I missed that. I try to read (almost) everything here even if I can't comment on everything. Two quick points: I gave an interpretation of Doreen Peri's poem for anyone interested in another type of criticism. It takes a bit of time but the idea is to stimulate your imagination and the imagination of the writer (and everybody else who reads it). Following this imagination theme: you can also do a collage type of interpretation (it's a lot faster) and just throw whatever you think at the writer without worrying about being consistent. Again, this is to stimulate the interaction of ideas. Many times a poet can get stuck in one definition of a word and not realize other possiblities to play with. Help him or her out! Brad |
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Iloveit Senior Member
since 1999-09-02
Posts 1121NM |
well, I have tried this site before, but have been unable to get any kind of interaction going, I comment, but don't get any feedback from the poet, possibly its my comments, but, it seems to me most post a poem here and then never comment again. I have trouble seeing the worth of that. I would really love to see more interaction. |
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