navwin » Archives » Open Poetry #27 » Analysis Of Rationalizations
Open Poetry #27
Post A Reply Post New Topic Analysis Of Rationalizations Go to Previous / Newer Topic Back to Topic List Go to Next / Older Topic
Cpat Hair
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Patricius
since 2001-06-05
Posts 11793


0 posted 2003-06-23 12:05 PM



Smoke twisted up from
The Cig you had lit and left to burn
While your lips expounded on the latest harm
Done to the idea of sanity and rational thought
By someone I didn’t know

And reminded me of how
When lit you too would consume all the air
Until only ashes remained.

Freud was a fool
In love with his own anatomy
you once told me
So he wrote all his drivel to rationalize
And put in place the women of the day
Just another man driven to keep the fair sex
In their place….

I remembered that conversation
As you were telling me about
The things someone had said to you
And how they were meant.

Funny to me then…
To draw a parallel in your estimation of Freud.


Jung might say your animus was speaking
But you would question that as again someone labeling
In stereotypical fashion to cubbyhole what they do not understand.


Your logic at times is impeccable.
Your Heart on the other hand seems obfuscated.

“Yeah, people are a disappointment.” I offer,
and light my own curl of smoke.

I wonder if you ever want a hand to touch you
Someone to be tender in a Monet of pain
Or to comfort when the Picasso of stress
Tears at the canvas of your psyche….

I’ve never seen that side of you…
But imagine you’d bay in primal screams
If you ever let someone reach the edges of your heart.

“Another round, barkeep.”

I’m too far from the couch to analyze anymore
And I don't appear to be anywhere close
to touching you.

© Copyright 2003 Cpat Hair - All Rights Reserved
Brad Majors
Deputy Moderator 5 ToursDeputy Moderator 1 TourDeputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Elite
since 2001-04-03
Posts 2647
Georgia
1 posted 2003-06-23 12:07 PM


cool piece
Midnitesun
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Empyrean
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647
Gaia
2 posted 2003-06-23 12:34 PM


The dendrites are wriggling as I read.
Some people fear the movement, fear the travel of nature's electricity, fear the consequences of being charged up emotionally. I like to listen to my own inner spirit, and give only the barest credence to Jung, Freud, or anyone else who isn't trapped inside my body and soul.
Maybe that's why I am nuts? LOL

[This message has been edited by Midnitesun (06-23-2003 12:39 PM).]

Earth Angel
Member Empyrean
since 2002-08-27
Posts 40215
Realms of Light
3 posted 2003-06-23 12:35 PM


SAVED!!!---and might I just add that I believe Jung was right about her!--and that she was right about Freud!

Huggums,
EA

[This message has been edited by Earth Angel (06-23-2003 12:36 PM).]

Ceinwyn
Member Elite
since 2000-07-09
Posts 2175
VA
4 posted 2003-06-23 12:38 PM


I can never say this enough i'm sooo in love the way you have with words is just hmm wow!?

If at first you don't succeed destroy all the evidence that you tried.

[This message has been edited by Ceinwyn (06-23-2003 12:50 PM).]

Janet Marie
Member Laureate
since 2000-01-22
Posts 18554

5 posted 2003-06-23 12:54 PM


And reminded me of how
When lit you too would consume all the air
Until only ashes remained.

--------------------------------


oh damn..I wish I had wrote that!!!


bout time you got back in here ya slacker
I heard some rumor bout a day off???
hope ya went fishing

Martie
Moderator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-09-21
Posts 28049
California
6 posted 2003-06-23 01:08 PM


Hi Ron...lots of thinking in this...made my head spin.  I was married to a shrink for many years...he analized me to death, and therefore was able to keep a professional distance from his own emotions.  Was a hard way to live for both of us.  Enjoyed the reality of this scene...and the ending stanza..perfect!
Cpat Hair
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Patricius
since 2001-06-05
Posts 11793

7 posted 2003-06-23 01:10 PM


Brad.. thank you sir... appreciated.

Midnight... listening to the inner self is a good way to know what is right for you... in this case the inner self was listened to, but spoke a language of the surface.. the depths are there, but they seem to be well hidden indeed.

EA..(chuckling) Freud was indeed a character and one I will not defend... Jung.. while appealing in some ways and makes sense on certain levels, I'm not sure I believe either...  about her however... yeah.. I think he would have been correct in that statement.

Ceinwyn... In love huh? ( chuckling) dear one... you flatter me.. thank you...  but I think the words are what you love, not the old coot who writes them...

JM... yeah a day off... and need to burn some more before i lose them. Fishing??? been so long I have forgetten what that was like..LOL.. had a list of chore to finish and the weather wasn't bad so made some prgoress on them and now back in the office, wishing I could have slept in this morning...

Many thanks to you all... for the nice words and taking time to leave them. It is greatly appreciated..

Martie..lol.. yeah I am sure that made a lot of difficult and interesting times for you. I just have the curse for having read and studied too much years ago...so now I analyze things and people too much it would seem. Glad you enjoyed..

[This message has been edited by Cpat Hair (06-23-2003 01:12 PM).]

Local Rebel
Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767
Southern Abstentia
8 posted 2003-06-23 01:31 PM


booyaa!!

the man slam dunks it....

'when lit you too would consume all the air until only ashes remained'

I think I dated her!

bukowski who?

Ceinwyn
Member Elite
since 2000-07-09
Posts 2175
VA
9 posted 2003-06-23 01:33 PM


yea thats what I meant

If at first you don't succeed destroy all the evidence that you tried.

Patricia
Member Elite
since 2003-04-06
Posts 2160
Missouri
10 posted 2003-06-23 01:40 PM


Ron,
Is it any wonder I feel such embarrassment when you read my solo efforts?  Not at all your fault, my good man.  To know my limitations and accept the truth...not such a bad thing.  And I indeed have time to grow...to learn, while all the while knowing I will never reach your level.  Only a great mind such as yours could write as this.

Now carry on, good Captain. Bring to me your wisdom and insight for it will settle in and of it I will rise.

Patricia  

  

Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354
Listening to every heart
11 posted 2003-06-23 01:41 PM


quote:
I wonder if you ever want a hand to touch you
Someone to be tender in a Monet of pain
Or to comfort when the Picasso of stress
Tears at the canvas of your psyche….


So you take a day or two off, then come home
to wrench us back into reality...

no complaint here...just feeling the words...

[This message has been edited by Sunshine (06-23-2003 01:41 PM).]

Cpat Hair
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Patricius
since 2001-06-05
Posts 11793

12 posted 2003-06-23 01:42 PM


LR.. lol.. thanks for the words bud...and as for dating her..I'm sorry... could cause emotional trauma that required professional help to overcome... might want to get the oil checked and make sure she didn't drain a quart or two...

Cein...   yeah I knew what you meant... just picking on you..lol... I'm bad that way... teasing... been told I was a pain more than once for sure...

Patricia... hey now..no need to be talking that way... I just write..and nothing I write is so good or so much better than what anyone else does.. you continue to write and write for the reasons inside..and quit trying to compare yourself to anyone else.. lol.. we are all unique..

now..thank you for the nice words..

Sunshine... reality... you mean it stopped while I was away?

[This message has been edited by Cpat Hair (06-23-2003 01:45 PM).]

Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354
Listening to every heart
13 posted 2003-06-23 01:58 PM



Sort of...for me.  Got embroiled in my novel Sunday and my characters took me far and away and left behind about 4,000 words.  

yep...this wrenched me back.

But my two ladies made me promise to get back to them, even exacting a second promise that this ah, project, would get finished this summer.  I think I'm going to have to follow the sun...

Local Rebel
Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767
Southern Abstentia
14 posted 2003-06-23 02:01 PM


a quart or two of oil?  she fried my transmission
jellybeans
Member Elite
since 2000-10-13
Posts 2298

15 posted 2003-06-23 02:41 PM


yeppers, this is real, honestly painfully real.....powerful writing my friend
Cpat Hair
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Patricius
since 2001-06-05
Posts 11793

16 posted 2003-06-23 02:50 PM


thanks JB... you know the real...so I take it as a great compliment... thank you


Susan Caldwell
Member Rara Avis
since 2002-12-27
Posts 8348
Florida
17 posted 2003-06-23 03:41 PM


Oh my!  
suthern
Deputy Moderator 1 TourDeputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Seraphic
since 1999-07-29
Posts 20723
Louisiana
18 posted 2003-06-23 03:50 PM


I wonder if you ever want a hand to touch you
Someone to be tender in a Monet of pain
Or to comfort when the Picasso of stress
Tears at the canvas of your psyche….

I’ve never seen that side of you…
But imagine you’d bay in primal screams
If you ever let someone reach the edges of your heart.

Oh, my... *S* Now I know why it was so good to see you posting again today... *S* Like this much, I do. *S*

Ratleader
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Rara Avis
since 2003-01-23
Posts 7026
Visiting Earth on a Guest Pass
19 posted 2003-06-23 10:07 PM


Oh, the way you paint a scene -- Ratleader is a fan. You've a touch that's so original and yet so very valid.

~~(¸¸¸¸ºº>   ~~(¸¸¸¸ºº>  ~~(¸¸ ¸¸ºº>    ~~~(¸¸ER¸¸ºº>
______________Ratleader______________

Magnus
Deputy Moderator 1 TourDeputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Laureate
since 2001-10-10
Posts 14135
South Carolina, USA
20 posted 2003-06-23 10:17 PM


OK Ron,  if you are an old coot....errrr,
where does that put Moi?  (Magnus exits
the stage,  was supposed to go right and
went left instead.  Setting off the fire
alarm when his head broke the glass)

Excellent write,  boy could this poem go in
a couple of directions...

Balladeer
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-05
Posts 25505
Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
21 posted 2003-06-23 10:26 PM


The ones made of asbestos are the ones who can burn the brightest...one only has to decide if it is worth wasting the match...


Like your style, senor....

Duncan
Member Ascendant
since 2001-08-07
Posts 5455

22 posted 2003-06-23 11:19 PM


"I’m too far from the couch to analyze anymore
And I don't appear to be anywhere close
to touching you."

Not much I could add to that...


littlewing
Member Rara Avis
since 2003-03-02
Posts 9655
New York
23 posted 2003-06-23 11:43 PM


Ron:

you do know women well now dont you?

This was beautiful
and creative in the way
you presented it
quite amazing actually
but the content so bittersweet

. . .if you ever let someone reach the edges of your heart . . .

I think I know this person . . .
xxoo  

passing shadows
Member Empyrean
since 1999-08-26
Posts 45577
displaced
24 posted 2003-06-24 04:44 AM


speechless here...sorry
serenity blaze
Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738

25 posted 2003-06-25 05:38 PM


Came back to look for this one.

You KNEW this one would strike a chord...

A very WISE man told me, not too long ago, that in regards to Jung:

"Leave that stuff alone, Jung will drive ya nuts."

I still say Freud will make ya walk.

But I guess it's the destination, eh?





Love this, but you knew that I would...

Krawdad
Member Elite
since 2001-01-03
Posts 2597

26 posted 2003-06-25 06:03 PM


Jeeze, the title . . .
I don't know about that,
but,
"Someone to be tender in a Monet of pain"
could have its own title.

Enjoyed

Kraw'

Wind
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Elite
since 2002-10-12
Posts 2981

27 posted 2003-06-25 07:34 PM


what is rational anyway?  Good job.

I said I'm going to buy a gun and start a war,
If you can tell me something worth fighting for
-coldplay

Roniece Dawson-Bruce
Member Ascendant
since 2000-01-29
Posts 5689
Sydney, Australia
28 posted 2003-06-25 07:41 PM


I love this!! I swear I was part of that conversation - it was so vivid !  I really enjoy reading your work - you are definitely in my top 10 poets! Bravo ! Roniece Dawson-Bruce
BloomingRose
Member Elite
since 2000-08-09
Posts 3092
Florida
29 posted 2003-06-25 08:35 PM


I wonder if you ever want a hand to touch you
Someone to be tender in a Monet of pain
Or to comfort when the Picasso of stress
Tears at the canvas of your psyche….
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Deep thoughts going on here.

Deb

Duncan
Member Ascendant
since 2001-08-07
Posts 5455

30 posted 2003-06-30 02:20 PM


"Your logic at times is impeccable.
Your Heart on the other hand seems obfuscated.

“Yeah, people are a disappointment.” I offer,
and light my own curl of smoke.

I wonder if you ever want a hand to touch you
Someone to be tender in a Monet of pain
Or to comfort when the Picasso of stress
Tears at the canvas of your psyche….

I’ve never seen that side of you…
But imagine you’d bay in primal screams
If you ever let someone reach the edges of your heart.

“Another round, barkeep.”

I’m too far from the couch to analyze anymore
And I don't appear to be anywhere close
to touching you."

Needed a fix...


Midnitesun
Deputy Moderator 1 Tour
Member Empyrean
since 2001-05-18
Posts 28647
Gaia
31 posted 2003-06-30 02:52 PM


it looks like everyone has a similar reaction to this one, Capt

we can't seem to get enough of it
and don't need anyone to analyze the 'why'

Post A Reply Post New Topic ⇧ top of page ⇧ Go to Previous / Newer Topic Back to Topic List Go to Next / Older Topic
All times are ET (US). All dates are in Year-Month-Day format.
navwin » Archives » Open Poetry #27 » Analysis Of Rationalizations

Passions in Poetry | pipTalk Home Page | Main Poetry Forums | 100 Best Poems

How to Join | Member's Area / Help | Private Library | Search | Contact Us | Login
Discussion | Tech Talk | Archives | Sanctuary