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EveGnosis Member
since 2002-02-21
Posts 300New York, USA 
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he's always given his all even when all meant sacrifice even when all meant planning as in giving, he had to give a bit. somewhere beneath me in this space called threads are two truisms of life, "God Has A Champion With Him Now" & "Where Did We Lose?" of course, relative to one's experience, yet a prayer of conveyance to us all we all want response. we all want praise. he will not ask. he writes, so as to share and such a sharing we've never been so blessed. take the time to pause take the time to see and understand take the time to support a purity that takes such all of time to support everyone but himself. a truer friend, you've never seen. wisdom has never been hidden so keen. i'm 21, and i've seen riches above desire i could buy the all of materialism but my fortune could not afford me the purity of all he shares. ---------------------------------------------------- for my new found and hopefully life long friend, PURITY! [This message has been edited by EveGnosis (04-09-2002 04:48 AM).] |
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Purity Senior Member
since 2001-11-20
Posts 526Once Upon, USA |
Feeling honored hath no meaning if not for souls like you. Thanks, EveGnosis. Very well done. My Grandfather said before his passing, that the measure of a person's success was based solely on the ability to hold up just one finger and say you had that many true friends. Thank you for lifting my measure up! |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
Ok. It seems you are disatisfied with the amount of replies gained for Purity? And you equate 'low' response rates with a lack of interest, disrespect? Or perhaps you merely wish to endorse Purity's poetry. Whatever the case, a few factors to consider: Firstly, if you don't interact with others you will likely always be disatisfied. Here's some statistics: Under the username Evegnosis there is a ratio of 24 posts with 6 originating posts. This means that only 18 posts from that username have been in reply to someone else (mainly in reply to Purity). Under the username Purity we have 62 total posts - 20 originating. This means that only 42 replies have been made to other poets since the 20th November 2001 from that username. It's an established phenomenon at PIP - if you interact with people, if you reply to their poems, you will likely receive more attention on your own poems. I'm not endorsing making replies just to get responses by any means - in fact, I think that reprehensible, however that is how it often works here, and I like it in that it shows communication and relationship at work. I think it is important that you understand this phenomenon. More stats: Purity's poem mentioned in your poem 'God has a champion with him now' has 8 replies. Out of the poems in the last 5 days that have had replies only one has over 10 replies. Dark does not attract large amounts of replies. An average response rate is probably about 4-5. By writing this to you, Evegnosis, I am not suggesting that either you or Purity should reply more to others, I am just pointing out that if you are unhappy with the reply rate, then you might like to consider these things. Thank you  Severn. [This message has been edited by Severn (04-09-2002 10:36 PM).] |
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NapalmsConstantlyConfused
since 2001-05-15
Posts 529 |
and there are some that don't get any replies at all - my last poem in this forum got one reply, and that from my girlfriend. i don't know, or care, how many people chose to read it - i just know that expecting large numbers of replies when neither of you has reached 100 posts yet is setting yourself up for disappointment. -Dave |
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Purity Senior Member
since 2001-11-20
Posts 526Once Upon, USA |
Statistical knowledge is great, and the idea of posting for reply sake is sad. I truly believe that EveGnosis only conveys his emotions and hopes that others validate. I however, having been accepted to be published, and having made poetry a serious part of my life, only want to share, but sharing for the hopes of gaining something in response is not true or pure. I don't care if a one responds to my posts. I take the time to post, so as to share, and can only hope that something I have to say may make a difference. Spouting off statistics as a way to undermine someone that one thinks is only there for responses, makes people ... just people... responding to sonthing they felt a need to respond to. I didn't need to know how many people felt compelled to respond. I am, however, very greatful for anyone taking the time to tell me that what I wrote meant enough for them to validate. Funny that I am supporting and defending someone that has wanted so much to be a part of my life. Maybe in your defensive responses, I have learned something about why I chose such a person to attach...after all, he is only 21...thanks for the stats...glad to see how many posts I get compared to everyone else, but realise that I, and I truly feel the same for Eve, am only opening up our hearts and sharing to you because we feel so accepted to do such. If it is not that way, I will honorably decline to post my feelings here anymore. |
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EveGnosis Member
since 2002-02-21
Posts 300New York, USA |
what i found funny is that the stats presented showed that i responded more than i posted my own works. i do not profess to be a great writer, i only write what i feel. indeed, i have responded to more than a few of purity's works. but go back and see my responses, ye who is so into logistics, and see that when i could lend a helpful comment or thought to whomever wrote what they felt, i i responded with what i felt. as a matter of actual fact, i have responded to more people i didn't know than i did to purity. why is there defensiveness all of a sudden? thoughts of a game? it does not make a difference in my existence, or wants, or appraisals what someone else chooses to think. i share because you may actually understand... because when you see me on screen, you might miss an important part of who i really am. i thought i'd share that here without remorse, but i guess i thought i was wrong. sorry to have disappointed... i will not make the same mistake again. this will be my last post. as i sit there and watch the dollars come in from my latest release, and realize your opinion shouldn't matter at all, i will hope you come to see something in me that makes you appreciate my attempts at poetry for the first time. if not, do i cease to be me? as long as i reached someone with what i had to say, i fulfilled my job. thank yu for moderating to the point of attempting to kill someone's spirit. i looked for any semblince of worthwhile writings from the annhilator of me, and i saw nothing. goodbye to all... run all new poets away from this site...even those that aren't sitting here wondering how many thousands, millions, of dollars their new movie might make, yet apparantly wastes their time wanting to share, and yes, get a response, from the few sharings of a new obvious dumb and futile talent. sorry, sevren...didn't mean to offend you, and yet re-research and you'll find that more of my responses were to other poets on this sight than responding to Purity, or even posting my own few attempts. With as many posts as you have, you are a God that I must bow to....goodbye. |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
I must question - it is we who are defensive? How is that? I would like to carefully suggest that you review your analysis of my response as something defensive, and rather see it as an explanation for why your posts don't get as many replies as you would like. What on earth do I, or Dave, have to be defensive about exactly? That's a very rash judgment I think. Nor did I say what I did to undermine anyone. My position as a moderator of this forum is to ensure that everything works well...when I see poems such as the above, I feel compelled to offer solutions, reasons and explanations. Undermining and defensiveness are just not part of my outlook. Let me say something to the both of you: Purity - you might like to notice that I was addressing Evegnosis and not yourself on the issue of reply rate satisfaction. I have loyal friends myself, and am a loyal friend to my own close friends...and what Evegnosis has done is a lovely expression of friendship. This is not the issue, as I'm sure you know. As to the issue of being published. When it comes down to it, I congratulate you, but I don't care. In saying that I mean only in that it doesn't make either of your works, or my own (some of which have been published), more important to be read or responded to than anyone elses here. There are many hidden talents at pip - and respect should be given to everyone's talent. Evegnosis. Firstly, you might like to note that I put 'mostly to Purity' in brackets in regards to your reply ratio. Now, the reason I have so many posts is simply because I have been a member since 1999, and moderating for nearly two years. If you choose to use my 'godlike' amount as a basis for sarcastic comparison that's fine. It won't achieve anything. Neither will running off and saying you don't wish to post here anymore. That is a dramatic stunt, and only you will lose the benefit of PIP and all that it offers. I would also like to suggest that insulting someone's writing is not a good way to garner relationships at PIP, or a good way to move in the 'outside' world. I'm not sure entirely how I could possibly have killed anyone's spirit, but if that is the effect that reasoning you don't agree with has on you, then so be it. You have not offended me, only left me with a feeling of sadness that you are not able to understand that my presentation of statistics to you is merely a way of helping you understanding the phenomenon of interaction and relationship that is the basis of PIP's strength. Severn [This message has been edited by Severn (04-10-2002 07:40 AM).] |
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Jamie Member Elite
since 2000-06-26
Posts 3168Blue Heaven |
K --- All this time- and you didn't tell me you were into logistics. I am getting my list together and will send it to ya soon. J |
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Purity Senior Member
since 2001-11-20
Posts 526Once Upon, USA |
That post, Severn, I did understand correctly, and totally concur with. Thanks. And to Eve, please accept openness for what it is...and feel free to stay and post. |
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