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Isis
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0 posted 10-29-2000 09:39 PM       View Profile for Isis   Email Isis   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Isis's Home Page   View IP for Isis

OK another weird thing that has been annoying me of late...
I have a number of people in my life or world that inspire me in various ways. Yet I know from first hand or things I have heard from others that people automatically believe you have a crush on them (the one that inspired you).  Why is that?

One man that inspires me and always has is my adoptive father, does that mean I love him and want to sleep with him?  Of course not, how ridiculous.

So if a male of any age inspires me to write better, or be a better person does that mean I want to sleep with him?????

I realise jealousy is probably the basis here and of course everyone gets jealous.  But I find this annoying and hurtful.

Any ideas????
Isis



*I believe every time you put your words to paper, you change. Each feeling is set free, and you may follow.....*
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1 posted 10-30-2000 07:20 AM       View Profile for Kit McCallum   Email Kit McCallum   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kit McCallum

That's really sad Isis ... things like that just make me wonder where or what people's priorities are. You should be able to write a tribute to anyone who's touched your heart, without fear of repercussion, inuendo or misinterpretation.

I love to write about people who inspire me ... I've been doing this all my life. Anything from moms and dads, brother and sister, neice and nephews ... but I also love to write about friends and co-workers, and that includes both male and female.

I've written 6 poetic tributes to friends and loved ones who have passed away, and read each of them at their funerals, in front of whole congregations.  What that taught me, is that I do NOT want to wait until someone dies to let them now how much they've touched my heart in one form or another.

People here, are no exception ... my heart has been inspired by many who grace these walls with their poetry and responses, and when touched by them, have written my thoughts in tribute, both men and women (hey Marge! *wink wink* LOL).  

To my knowledge, I've never had anyone question my sincerity or intentions ... but then again, that wouldn't stop me anyway. I wrote a poem for my husband's uncle whom he adored as a child. I listened to so many of his stories, that I just sat down and wrote something out. I aged/baked and burnt the edges of the paper, and mounted it on a beautiful frame, but you know what?  That poem sat on a shelf for 4 years because my husband was afraid the other uncles would misunderstand or be jealous.  I finally convinced him to present it to his uncle about a year ago, and we received the warmest most beautiful response from everyone. He is a special man, and it felt so good to let him know.

Oh boy ... I could go on forever here ... but I won't, hope that helps Isis!  

[This message has been edited by Kit McCallum (edited 10-30-2000).]
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2 posted 10-30-2000 08:05 AM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

Isis~
'Small minds talk about small things.'

I could give a tinkers darn less what others
think of my intentions.
If I adore someone, whether it be for inspiration, or just plain downright open admiration ...
I'm not going to lose any sleep over what others think of it.

However, I don't find it hurtful ...
cause I don't usually resprect the opinions
of people who think that way !
Actually, I find it quite rude to think that
someone thinks they know me better than I know myself.

So my advice is to look at the source,
stick out your tongue out at them
and go your merry way !

~*Marge*~




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Parker
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3 posted 10-30-2000 12:04 PM       View Profile for Parker   Email Parker   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Parker's Home Page   View IP for Parker

So if I wrote a poem about your smile, would that make you think I'm in love with it or you, or want you......

NO.....

damn...doesn't this poetry stuff work anymore?    

Parker
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4 posted 10-30-2000 01:54 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

man - I'm with parker - and here I thought kit's poem meant she wanted me... damn... gonnagosulknow...~pout~
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LOL ... Hey Chris ... I never said I didn't did I? LOL! Gonnasendahugnow ~smile~ no pouting allowed ... and don't go gettin' me in trouble now!  

[This message has been edited by Kit McCallum (edited 10-30-2000).]
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6 posted 10-30-2000 07:17 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Who said this? From the beginning of time poets have written 'odes to' someone - it's just an 'honor' thing..you want to honor someone personally or for their work. No big deal. If I thought writing tributes would get me a man, Ron would have to close down Open Forum because I'd overload the system!!!  
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7 posted 10-30-2000 08:43 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

Hey, I'm with Parker on this one. . . you mean that all those poems that you wrote for me and you mean we're just. . . friends??  SHOOT!!!  

Seriously, to go along with what deVine said, I've written a lot of "Tribute" poems for different people.  I did two sets of what I liked to call "Members Challenges" for anyone that wanted me to write a poem about them (hey Parker, if you appeal to their vanity, that might work too!!! LOL   ) but that doesn't mean that I want to sleep with the people that I wrote about. . . I just like them as friends. . . and that's all. . .

Great question Lisa!!  Now, go and see the poem I wrote for you in DP #2!!  

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Geee--- and I was hoping to inspire some unfortunate lady into sleeping with me. ( I have had insomnia and haven't slept in 20 years.....( trivia question here-- what is the significance of that # concerning sleep?)



Jamie

Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito. - Virgil.
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9 posted 10-30-2000 11:06 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Unfortunate this is Isis...*hugs*
I have a feeling that many who respond in that matter are, if not purely, then predominately cathartic poets, who only write about the ones they love/lust/adore/moon over/pine over/want but fear rejection to ask. The same type that will read a poem which contains the first person perspective and automatically assume that the writer is the speaker irregardless of actual intent or message. It's probably a good thing it's not rampant, or I'd be in real trouble from my Dark poems.  
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10 posted 10-31-2000 12:49 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

uhhh Jamie - I can't answer your question... but what're the odds of sharing that secret with me? I've managed to all but completely cut out sleep.. but can't seem to get rid of ALL of it... I'll pay good money...
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11 posted 10-31-2000 12:54 AM       View Profile for Parker   Email Parker   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Parker's Home Page   View IP for Parker

Well, sven... I'd like to think that my romantic poetry appeals to their romantic heart, and not their vanity.
Where has it ever been written that romance is about vanity.
So that's how you do yours! Should you be publicly admitting this...

Nope, not my style.    

Parker
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C-- tis no secret, and concerns sleeping actually- 20 is the number of years our old friend Rip slept off that potion...(did ya think I just pulled the number from  the cat's hat??..lol)



Jamie

Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito. - Virgil.
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Oh Parker. . . I'm talking about the ones who have asked me to write poems for them. . . I'd like to think that my Romantic poetry appeals to the heart also. . . but sometimes, people like to see their name in print.  I know that I do. . .

And I didn't give away any of my secrets. . . well, I least I don't think that I did. . .  

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14 posted 10-31-2000 01:18 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

*DUH*

You know Jamie, I honestly thought about a fairy tale or something along the lines of that.. but then thought "NO, he's looking for something really profound..." ROFL - got me on that on. LOL

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Profound? Me?? Well,, since you mentioned it,Rip Van Winkle, by Washington Irving, is symbolic of the European sentiment towards the new society in America and establishes an identity before and after the American Revolution. Rip Van Winkle's character depicts the society of America as seen by England, whereas the England portrayed by his wife, Dame Van Winkle. The townspeople represent American society at large and how it changed with the realization of becoming an independent country.

Rip Van Winkle was a "a kind neighbor, and an obedient hen-pecked husband". All the good wives of the village liked him because he was willing help at any time. "In a word Rip was ready to attend to anybody's business but his own; but as to doing family duty, and keeping his farm in order, he found it impossible." Seeing that Rip Van Winkle's family was deteriorating while the people of the town were profiting from his rebellion against the authority and possible needs of his family shows that the Crown was losing respect while America was gaining the loyalty of its own people. Rip's idleness could be perceived as the British perception that America was unwilling to focus on their duties as servants of the Crown.

In representing the Crown, Dame Van Winkle would nag him to death over his duties so much that he would seek refuge from these tirades by going to town to sit in front of the tavern and remain idle with his friends. Even this did not prove to be an efficient escape because soon enough his wife would track him down to nag him and his colleagues further. This is a direct parallel to the political situation with the continued government control of Mother England. England was very domineering in their everyday lives and not willing to allow America its freedom. Americans were trying to avoid the tyranny of the Crown, just as Rip would do everything possible to escape his overbearing wife.

The townspeople, in representing the American society, show how American society changed before and after the revolution. Before the revolution, it seemed that the townspeople were more complacent and unmotivated. This is representative of repression America experienced while under British rule. This furthered the opinion that Americans were just lazy and unproductive subjects of the Crown. The revolution awoke the fire within the American Spirit and the townspeople became alive with anticipation of their new self government. When Rip came back to town after his 20 year nap, the townspeople were filled with a new found energy looking forward to the next elections. They asked questions of political nature as opposed to before when all conversation was idle gossip.

RPV demonstrates the change in America's ideals due to the transition experienced through the American Revolution. This story gives us insight into the internal personalities of the American colonists and how the passage of time changes a society.



Jamie

Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito. - Virgil.
"Yield thou not to adversity, but press on the more bravely".  






[This message has been edited by Prometheus (edited 10-31-2000).]
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Ok show-off! LOL

So how does it relate to YOU?
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17 posted 10-31-2000 02:40 PM       View Profile for Jamie   Email Jamie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Jamie's Home Page   View IP for Jamie

Just an exaggeration of terms-- Sometimes I don't sleep for days... and most of the time when I do, it is not much-- I just do not sleep much,, much like yourself I gather,,, and I refuse to take sleep aids..( other than a nice cold Icehouse or 2 just before bedtime)-- I found that when taking those things I awoke feeling like I had not slept at all....    ...sorry you asked?????  

[This message has been edited by Prometheus (edited 10-31-2000).]
Isis
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18 posted 10-31-2000 06:14 PM       View Profile for Isis   Email Isis   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Isis's Home Page   View IP for Isis

Thanks for answering everyone.  But it's not just poetry I refer too, if I honour anyone or think any guy is wonderful be they in my life, on TV etc, why do people presume you are in love with them or want to sleep with them.
Why can't people accept that there are men out there who can inspire you, who aren't your husband, and that doesn't mean you want to sleep with him.
Hell Buddah himself inspires me but I sure as heck don't want him LOL.....
All people not only spouses seem to do this male or female, 'presume' they want so and so.
It's wrong, unfair and could ruin many wonderful friendships etc..
Isis

*I believe every time you put your words to paper, you change. Each feeling is set free, and you may follow.....*
~Isis~~Sovereign of the Spirit.
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I think you're generalizing here Isis. Not ALL men think that way..nor do ALL women!  
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20 posted 10-31-2000 08:22 PM       View Profile for Isis   Email Isis   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Isis's Home Page   View IP for Isis

And I nearly forgot thanks for the *hug* Alicat  
You've inspired me to *hug* hell that must mean I want to sleep with you too!!!!!  LOL
Isis

*I believe every time you put your words to paper, you change. Each feeling is set free, and you may follow.....*
~Isis~~Sovereign of the Spirit.
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21 posted 10-31-2000 10:00 PM       View Profile for Jamie   Email Jamie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Jamie's Home Page   View IP for Jamie

Sharon-- so now you are saying Isis is hitting on Generals???--



Jamie

Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito. - Virgil.
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22 posted 10-31-2000 10:47 PM       View Profile for Isis   Email Isis   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Isis's Home Page   View IP for Isis

How am I generalising it Sharon?  In my personal life, in working life, here in Passions people presume the worst they do!!!
Like that old saying 'sleep your way to the top!'  same deal.
You can like a man have him inspire you but you don't want to sleep with him... my father a classic example.  A doctor.  If a girlfriend inspires me and I write her a poem does that make me a lesbian?
If I say I love you Sharon am I a lesbian??
People are too quick to judge and usually take things the wrong way.. that is all I'm saying....
Isis

*I believe every time you put your words to paper, you change. Each feeling is set free, and you may follow.....*
~Isis~~Sovereign of the Spirit.
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Isis, so is that why you haven't responded to my remarks.... cause you don't want them to know you want to sleep with me... oh, I mean you don't want them to assume that you've been thinking about sleeping with me....  

So all in all, most dealings between men and women are just harmless show's of affection.

So if I harmlessly said you had a nice body... would you then hold it against me.  

Parker

[This message has been edited by Haleyja (edited 11-01-2000).]
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24 posted 11-01-2000 02:53 AM       View Profile for Isis   Email Isis   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Isis's Home Page   View IP for Isis

Parker,  Ssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh  it's our little secret  LOL

If you said I had a nice body I would take it as a compliment only, NOT that you wanted to sleep with me.. ROFL

Have you got nothing better to do than stir up more trouble for me????

Isis


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~Isis~~Sovereign of the Spirit.
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