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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA 
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Comes from _________________________________. . . (fill in the blank. . . ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Poet deVine
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
the heart |
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Ron
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
Humans. My dog writes really lousy stuff. (His paintings are pretty good, though.) |
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Christopher
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-02
Posts 8296Purgatorial Incarceration |
misery |
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Christopher
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-02
Posts 8296Purgatorial Incarceration |
Ron, I'm impressed. My dog can't write poetry... he sticks with doing my books... a left-brainer I guess. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
Ah...C? So it was YOU, drinking out of the toilet????  and the best poetry...is just a reflection of my mood, I think...sometimes mine, sometimes YOURS [This message has been edited by serenity (edited 02-08-2001).] |
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kitkat Senior Member
since 2000-01-11
Posts 878Nova Scotia |
the soul and heart of everyone. |
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doreen peri Member Elite
since 1999-05-25
Posts 3812Virginia |
YOU, sven! of course! hehe  |
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Charisma
since 2000-09-30
Posts 5906lost in blue pages |
the best poetry comes from.....mmmm... let me see, comes it from this pen maybe... or is it the hand that write these glee or perhaps it is some combination that gives a poet inspiration or should it be the mystic soul pouring out the poets whole let me tell, I don't have a clue where comes from the best poetry all I know it's not from me but hey we can read them here that means that I can't fill the line will leave it blank for that's no crime share it with us if you know the truth off course, I will leave that up to you.  ::Charisma |
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Poet deVine
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since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Ron, I think you should let us see some of that artwork of yours (I mean your dog's). |
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Sunshine
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
understanding |
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Poeminister Senior Member
since 2000-02-26
Posts 1862Regina SK; Canada |
Love, and Dreams [This message has been edited by Poeminister (edited 02-08-2001).] |
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Poeminister Senior Member
since 2000-02-26
Posts 1862Regina SK; Canada |
oops, sorry. [This message has been edited by Poeminister (edited 02-08-2001).] |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
quote: Why? ----------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
ME heh kidding. It comes from a source you can't define actually - my poetry writes itself - I'm just the messenger.  K |
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Temptress
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-06-15
Posts 7136Mobile, AL |
LOL! Okay..so I forgot the COMPLETE question while answering, but at least I made an attempt. Be back later to answer it! LOL! Sorry, Sven. I'm having a weird day. [This message has been edited by Temptress (edited 02-08-2001).] |
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Christopher
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Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-02
Posts 8296Purgatorial Incarceration |
For a change, I'm serious here. I've wondered about it many times, even had discussions about it with our local Dark poet Michael. Personally, I think misery stands my writing in good stead for several reasons - one, is my tendancy to ponder the happy times more than when I'm spending time living them. Another is that I like dark thoughts, dark poetry - I've never been one of those rose petals and sunny day kinda happy feeling guys. Darkness can be just as beautiful as the light... |
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Dopey Dope
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Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
Everybody else but me........maybe some day  I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust. I'm in love with my shadow I admire it daily |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
quote: I've begun to learn this. . . thanks Christopher. . . ------------------------------------------------------ To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Krawdad Member Elite
since 2001-01-03
Posts 2597 |
frankly my dear, i don't . . . really want to know. just kidding. well, sort of. i haven't got a clue, i'm just trying to nurture it, whatever the h*** it is. i can be surprised by what others write and just as surprised by what i write. i should try to explain that? and why is there so much written and it's all different? maybe it's just that we are each a curious individual and we have to deal with that. creativity and imagination can explain most anything . . . Kraw' |
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Marsha
since 2000-07-10
Posts 7423Maidstone Kent England |
Comes from......... Understanding within. Actually I'm not sure, it comes from the feeling of connection between the writer and the reader. It's a love affair of sorts, good poetry is the answer to the question you haven't ever asked. Sven, the answer is it depends on the reader, and the writer. And in this readers case good poetry is here. Take care love as always Mushy Take back the hope you gave,- I claim Only a memory of the same Robert Browning |
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inot2B Member Elite
since 2000-09-18
Posts 2205Arkansas |
Comes from ___________________________. . .  Aliens that have invaded the mind, body and soul!!!!!! |
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Celeste Senior Member
since 2000-11-11
Posts 597 |
Honesty........... To capture and live a moment is truly living |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
ah, but how do we know that the writing is honest dreamkeeper?? we don't. . . or do we? Are we forced to take the poet at his/her word and belive that they are writing from life? I liked your response, that's why I'm highlighting it with my question. . . I agree with you, honesty is a quality of some of the best writing. . . ---------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Celeste Senior Member
since 2000-11-11
Posts 597 |
Well, I think it's a difference of surface writing and depth. I think when we face ourselves for exactly who we are, including our imperfections, faults, etc....and are willing to see our deepest parts of ourselves it shines out beautifully. Takes us to a deeper level of seeing, understanding and writing. To capture and live a moment is truly living |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
Excellent dreamkeeper. . . I agree whole-heartedly. . . ------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Celeste Senior Member
since 2000-11-11
Posts 597 |
Thank you! To capture and live a moment is truly living |
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Acies
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Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
PASSIONS IN POETRY  So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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Colin Senior Member
since 1999-06-05
Posts 596Callington, Cornwall, England |
I would say the best poetry comes from "truth". Now, this could be the actual truth as perceived or observed by the poet or those with influence over the poet. Another truth could be arrived at by the poet creating a situation in his, her or its mind and totally immersing him/her/itself in that situation to derive the truth that would be. And that's quite enough deep philosophy for a post-work, pre-bath Colin! Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the streets after them. - Bill Vaughan |
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LoveBug
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since 2000-01-08
Posts 4697 |
the mind of an artist and the heart of a poet Those with the mind of a artist can find beauty in every sight, and those with the heart of a poet can feel the beauty in each emotion. Not that I would know  "Men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand, for everyone can see and few can feel."-Machiavelli |
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warmhrt Senior Member
since 1999-12-18
Posts 1563 |
I am very surprised that no one said this...it comes from that indescribable entity we call the "muse". When mine's gone, I can't write worth a darn...and it's gone now.  Kris  "It is wisdom to know others; It is enlightenment to know one's self" - Lao Tzu |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
warmhrt, what is the muse really?? is it an entity??? or is it something that we just can't describe??? ------------------------------------------------------ To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Nan
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since 1999-05-20
Posts 21191Cape Cod Massachusetts USA |
Ron, you don't have a dog...  |
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warmhrt Senior Member
since 1999-12-18
Posts 1563 |
Sven, I just don't know...I I I can't describe it,  and how can I ever get it back if I don't REALLY know exactly what it is???Kris "It is wisdom to know others; It is enlightenment to know one's self" - Lao Tzu |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
touche warmhrt. . . but conversely, how do you know that you lost it??? ----------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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warmhrt Senior Member
since 1999-12-18
Posts 1563 |
Sven, I can "feel" that it's GONE...gone...gone...  and I haven't been able to write anything lately that even I like. Kris "It is wisdom to know others; It is enlightenment to know one's self" - Lao Tzu |
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kaile
since 2000-02-06
Posts 5146singapore |
a childlike wonder |
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Greeneyes617 Member
since 2000-11-22
Posts 329Arkansas |
The best poetry comes for someone who pours the heart into there work and has the courage to let other see it. |
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Irie Senior Member
since 1999-12-01
Posts 1493Washington State |
The people who read and enjoy anothers work! Uhhh...Does that make sense? LOL ~Sheri "The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first" |
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Swamp¤Faeryie Member
since 2000-12-04
Posts 393fairyland....of course;) |
i think the best poetry comes from observance of nature,nature poetry to me is some of the most soul-ish...that and the poetry of misery as Christopher mentions for the same reason,it goes into the soul and miserable dark poetry people seem to THINK alot,about life and everything,sometimes rosey and cheery seems fake and superficial,but dark is always from the soul and the deepest darkest hallways in the mind. sammi Do i contradict myself?Very well i contradict myself.I contain multitudes.~walt whitman |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
quote: I'll agree that sometimes rosy and cheery seems that way. . . they can. . . but, is dark always from the soul and the mind? Can't it too, be fake and superficial??? I like what Irie said too. . . the best poets read and learn from other poets and take those influences and ideas and make them their own. . . wonderful!! ----------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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SEA
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Member Seraphic
since 2000-01-18
Posts 22676with you |
I think it comes from a place inside us.......emotions play a key role in what I write......any kind of emotion.....and from dreams.........or the lack there of...........I think the best comes from your own experiences.......things you know......things you feel.....it can be a process of healing or venting......letting go or holding on..........I think it's very personal to each person.......I never can write, just to write......it has to be what I'm feeling.......that can be directly influenced by what someone I love is feeling too.........it affects me. That's my 2 cents worth SEA |
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Swamp¤Faeryie Member
since 2000-12-04
Posts 393fairyland....of course;) |
YES!! Dark poetry can be superficial!! The darkness has it's own set of much over used clichés,but i do feel that Darker poetry does deal with deeper more often hidden corners,which makes it sincere....when it is really a serious bit of poetry. Do i contradict myself?Very well i contradict myself.I contain multitudes.~walt whitman |
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Michael
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since 1999-08-13
Posts 7666California |
Have to agree with Chris here - Misery is the best muse, far and away. Michael |
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Skyfyre Senior Member
since 1999-08-15
Posts 1906Sitting in Michael's Lap |
Fair enough, misery works, isn't the saying "the sweetest songs are sung with breaking hearts" or somesuch..? I have written some of my better poetry while miserable, but I do have to say that quite a few of the pieces that everyone enjoyed were not inspired by misery, but rather by longing. I suppose in one way that could be construed as misery (especially if you don't get what you were longing after LOL), but I think a good portion of what I wrote was under duress from sensations of extreme giddiness and, dare I say it, hope. I might also point out that many of the pieces which are considered "masterpieces" of poetry have anything but misery as their source: what about "The Road Not Taken" by Frost..? Reminiscent, yes, but miserable..? Hardly. "Ozzymandius?" Humorous, even. Anyway ... hehe (Just had to disagree with Michael LOL) Linda |
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Ina Senior Member
since 2000-10-09
Posts 1236Quebec, Canada |
the deepest pains of life, love and everything else Regina |
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StarrGazer Senior Member
since 2000-03-05
Posts 679Texas |
Hmmmm ... the best poetry comes from LIFE! each experience we have be it good or bad whether it makes us happy or sad ... each poem written is an expression of human emotion captured in words |
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Celeste Senior Member
since 2000-11-11
Posts 597 |
One glass of blackberry brandy A steaming bubble bath 6 vanilla scented candles lit *And a light dusting of love *Hope and dreams can be substituted when necessary. "One out of four people in this country is mentally imbalanced. Think of your three closest friends - and if they seem okay, then you're the one." |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
dreamkeeper, if you bring the brandy. . . I'll bring the candles. . . lol------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Lakewalker Member Elite
since 2000-08-05
Posts 3289On the streets w/ people |
The best poetry comes from the subconscious and outer forces while in a state of openness. "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" "Life's short. If you don't look around once in a while you might miss it." BothUnknown |
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Celeste Senior Member
since 2000-11-11
Posts 597 |
Oh now Lakewalker, that's good! Sven - you're on! "Some people see the cup as half empty. Some people see the cup as half full. I see the cup as too large." ~George Carlin~ |
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Moon Dust
since 1999-06-11
Posts 2177Skelmersdale, UK |
the moment Don't ever give in, if you do you've lost everything you've ever had and everything you hope to gain, but if you carry on your already winning. |
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Acies
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Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
The best poetry is..... definitely not even close to mine  "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
Moon Dust, are you saying that the best poetry comes to us in a burst of inspiration? dreamkeeper, I've got glasses too!! -------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Greeneyes617 Member
since 2000-11-22
Posts 329Arkansas |
The best poetry comes from.........the soul |
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Dopey Dope
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Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
it comes from nausia I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust. I'm in love with my shadow I admire it daily |
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Dusk Treader
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since 1999-06-18
Posts 1187St. Paul, MN |
My best creative writing (I write prose, thank you ) comes when I'm utterly exhausted and my mind is detached from the rest of me. It just flows then, no mental blocks to hold me back, just a flow of ideas, thoughts and emotions. I think the silence of the mind encourages the seeds the Muse plants to grow unhindered."And every state of mind, left to itself, every shutting up of the creature within the dungeon of its own mind - is, in the end, Hell" - C.S. Lewis |
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Dee Member Elite
since 2000-08-19
Posts 2330Queensland, Australia |
I have found that the poets here are loving, tolerant, accepting, open minded and so many other wonderful things. I think that the best poetry comes from that attitude to life and love. "Live and let live!" And while I'm on the subject, thank you everyone for being so wonderful. Dee I wish you every happiness and may you always have the best of the good things in life. a brand |
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Meadowmuse Member Elite
since 1999-12-27
Posts 3263 |
...one's desire ~ I daresay one's need ~ to examine, understand and express oneself, one's place in this world, one's direction and one's elemental origin. Just my experience and opinion. (o: Claire Could a greater miracle take place than for us to look through each other's eyes for an instant?......Henry David Thoreau |
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Allan Riverwood
since 2001-01-04
Posts 3502Winnipeg |
Pens, pencils, or the fingers of the typist. If I had your eyes, I'd be blind. For I can only see out of my own. ~~Carly Van Dort |
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Dopey Dope
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Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
From a Guitar pic |
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coyote Senior Member
since 2001-03-17
Posts 1077 |
Good question, Sven. Out of the unseen? From perception unpolluted? When vision becomes visible? "The poet is the priest of the invisible." |
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Allan Riverwood
since 2001-01-04
Posts 3502Winnipeg |
boredom. |
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Dopey Dope
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Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
A nice spot to sit in the shade. |
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Acies
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Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
...is when you rip your self open, grab your heart and soul, and put it on paper "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, |
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Greeneyes617 Member
since 2000-11-22
Posts 329Arkansas |
The empty thing that sits on my shoulder.  |
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Dopey Dope
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Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
The empty thing that sits on your shoulder? whats that? |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
ROFL. . . I think that she's talking about her head Dopey. . . LOL and if she is, I'd like to say that it's probably not that empty!!! ----------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Dopey Dope
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Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
Oh hahahaha I actually thought she placed random empty things on her shoulders....my bad. |
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Lakewalker Member Elite
since 2000-08-05
Posts 3289On the streets w/ people |
*looks at Dopey* Oh my. "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" |
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Allan Riverwood
since 2001-01-04
Posts 3502Winnipeg |
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inot2B Member Elite
since 2000-09-18
Posts 2205Arkansas |
When something happens that moves one. Be it happy or sad. It just grabs you and you have to pick up a pen and write about it. Or for those who don't know what a pen is, sit at the computer and start typing. |
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Dopey Dope
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Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
*looks at Allan*.......shush |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
From 2am and fuzzy eyes K |
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